It's about time for No Smoking!!!

fatlazyless · 06-07-2007, 02:45 PM

Someone, please correct me on this, the 'live free or die, death is not the worst of evils' phrase was said by NH Revolutionary War General John Stark in 1809 on the anniversary of the Revolutionary War battle of Bennington Vermont. As a pipe smoker, cancer of the mouth kept Stark from making the trip from New Hampshire to Vermont, so he probably already had his impending death on his mind and was thinking how things could not be worse. When faced with an uncurable problem, he had found his own way to rationalize it and in responding to the battle git-together with his war buddies, sent the message; Sorry guys, am too sick to travel even if it is just to Vermont, and oh yeah, fellow soldiers, live free or die, death is not the worst of evils!

So, NH's motto was thought up while he was suffering the cancerous effects of smoking. Chalk one up for smoking!

My point is that General John Stark was sick and dying and he knew it, and thought up this reply knowing he's soon to be dead.

Pineedles · 06-07-2007, 08:33 PM

FLL,
Take a situation, assume a thought process by someone else, come to a conclusion as to their intent, and prove a hypothesis. Not even close to the scientific method. GIGO!

SIKSUKR · 06-08-2007, 07:31 AM

I thought General Stark was crossing the Merrimack and was stopped by British troops looking to impose speed limits when he announced "live free or die".

fatlazyless · 06-08-2007, 07:43 AM

Hey Pineneedles, yeah thanks for the compliments, am I a smartie or what? Now I know what that ringing sound was when I wrote that....it was the BS alarm.

Wikipedia says Gen John Stark lived from 1728 -1822, about 94 years. Not too bad for back when the average life span was probably 44 or so. Must have had that Vermont fighting spirit. You know, I never have heard of the Vermont state motto?

Pineedles · 06-08-2007, 07:59 AM

Freedom and Unity. Quite a dichotomy huh? No wonder they are as close to a socialist state as one can be in the US.

06-07-2007, 02:45 PM	#1
fatlazyless Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 8,858 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 303 Thanked 1,039 Times in 758 Posts	Someone, please correct me on this, the 'live free or die, death is not the worst of evils' phrase was said by NH Revolutionary War General John Stark in 1809 on the anniversary of the Revolutionary War battle of Bennington Vermont. As a pipe smoker, cancer of the mouth kept Stark from making the trip from New Hampshire to Vermont, so he probably already had his impending death on his mind and was thinking how things could not be worse. When faced with an uncurable problem, he had found his own way to rationalize it and in responding to the battle git-together with his war buddies, sent the message; Sorry guys, am too sick to travel even if it is just to Vermont, and oh yeah, fellow soldiers, live free or die, death is not the worst of evils! So, NH's motto was thought up while he was suffering the cancerous effects of smoking. Chalk one up for smoking! My point is that General John Stark was sick and dying and he knew it, and thought up this reply knowing he's soon to be dead. Last edited by fatlazyless; 06-07-2007 at 03:31 PM.

06-07-2007, 08:33 PM	#2
Pineedles Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Moultonborough & CT Posts: 2,549 Thanks: 1,074 Thanked 672 Times in 369 Posts	Huh? FLL, Take a situation, assume a thought process by someone else, come to a conclusion as to their intent, and prove a hypothesis. Not even close to the scientific method. GIGO!

06-08-2007, 07:31 AM	#3
SIKSUKR Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 5,075 Thanks: 215 Thanked 903 Times in 509 Posts	I thought General Stark was crossing the Merrimack and was stopped by British troops looking to impose speed limits when he announced "live free or die". __________________ SIKSUKR

06-08-2007, 07:59 AM	#5
Pineedles Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Moultonborough & CT Posts: 2,549 Thanks: 1,074 Thanked 672 Times in 369 Posts	Fll Freedom and Unity. Quite a dichotomy huh? No wonder they are as close to a socialist state as one can be in the US.

06-08-2007, 07:43 AM	#4
fatlazyless Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 8,858 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 303 Thanked 1,039 Times in 758 Posts	Hey Pineneedles, yeah thanks for the compliments, am I a smartie or what? Now I know what that ringing sound was when I wrote that....it was the BS alarm. Wikipedia says Gen John Stark lived from 1728 -1822, about 94 years. Not too bad for back when the average life span was probably 44 or so. Must have had that Vermont fighting spirit. You know, I never have heard of the Vermont state motto?