Traffic Circle

redc5 · 06-19-2007, 04:55 AM

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Originally Posted by chmeeee

Do you want to back that up with something? Those are all fairly standard roundabout statistics, backed by federal research. I am a traffic engineer, and I can tell you that when properly designed and implemented in a place with appropriate volumes, they work very well. I haven't driven through the Meredith one yet, I will next weekend though, so I cannot comment on the design of that one.

My experience as it comes to working with DOTs is that while upper level decision making can be (and frequently is) extremely poor, design work in the modern era is almost always very good.

I dont think he's slamming the article, I think he's slamming the newspaper

chmeeee · 06-19-2007, 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by redc5

I dont think he's slamming the article, I think he's slamming the newspaper

You mean that bastion of journalistic integrity?

DoTheMath · 06-19-2007, 09:25 AM

If it is modeled after the ones in Europe then... lets drive through it backwards - a-la London - and see if that works!? Maybe that is what we are all missing!?!?

"Can't get left... hey look, Big Ben, Parliment - Kids"!

Chevy Chase as Clark Griswold in European Vacation

Weirs guy · 06-19-2007, 11:17 AM

Lets all make a deal. When the first bus full of tourists gets stuck in the thing post pictures!

...and the wheels on the bus get cut by the curb, cut by the curb, cut by the curb...

fatlazyless · 06-19-2007, 11:58 AM

Have driven through the Meredith round-about maybe six times, and the traffic flows right well, indeedy-do! Not only is it safer, but it speeds up the flow. I had nothing better to do so round-about I went, twelve times!

Just remember that the traffic already in the round-about has the right-of-way.

A round-about just may be the solution for the Pleasant St- Route 25 intersection near the movie theatre.

krm · 06-19-2007, 04:03 PM

What was the problem with old intersection? Seemed like it was only a problem on bike week? I can think of alot worst intersections that DOT could have fixed.

LIforrelaxin · 06-20-2007, 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by fatlazyless

A round-about just may be the solution for the Pleasant St- Route 25 intersection near the movie theatre.

Only if they design it so that it is practical.... the one up at 106 as others have stated was poorly designed and isn't going to work. They tried to cram a circle in. They should have taken more land and installed it properly.

hockeypuck · 06-20-2007, 05:58 AM

Just had a round-about put in here in southern CT, looks exactly like the one in NH. All the same complaints about waste of money and it creating more accidents, but such has not been the case. Yes, there has been a learning curve on the part of drivers, but it really works pretty well now. Traffic moves, slowly thru the circle, but no big deal.
Maybe one should be considered for suicide corner on the Waldo Pepper's side of the Weir's bridge. Most people don't have a clue as to who has the right of way there. Yes, there are signs there, but for some reason they don't seem to be logical. Can't trust drivers esp .first timers to follow them.

mets3007 · 06-20-2007, 07:41 AM

The Weirs bridge is chaos bridge everyone for themself no rules you go when you want to and stop when you want to instead of traffic from Weirs yeilding letting the cars out from Weirs Blvd and traffic on 11B stopping to let them out, its not rocket science. ( end of mini rant)

hilltopper · 06-20-2007, 09:00 AM

The roundabout has been explained as a way to calm traffic which otherwise backs up at traffic lights. However, you go a few hundered yards toward Meredith on Rt. 3 and you hit a traffic light at the 104 intersection. Does that seem strange to anyone? It may help the traffic at the 106 intersection but won't it just back up again a few hundred yards down the road at the 104 intersection?

chmeeee · 06-20-2007, 09:33 AM

Its still better than having two signals that close together though.

Also, I agree that the Weirs bridge would be the perfect place for a roundabout. Queues from a signal would back up over the bridge and past Lakeside Ave and Channel lane, and the existing mess is a death trap. I feel like I have to avoid an accident every other time I go through there.

Weirs guy · 06-20-2007, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by chmeeee

Also, I agree that the Weirs bridge would be the perfect place for a roundabout. Queues from a signal would back up over the bridge and past Lakeside Ave and Channel lane, and the existing mess is a death trap. I feel like I have to avoid an accident every other time I go through there.

Dear god, please NO!!!!

I'm surprised FLL hasn't jumped on this yet, but there was an article in the Laconia Sun a week or so ago addressing the city's request to the state to fix "dysfunction junction" before they worry about fixing the rest of Rt. 3 from dysfunction junction to the new circle of death. My wife and I often joke about making up a big green "GO" sign and hanging it on the Waldo Peppers side of dysfunction junction. I hope we wait and see how the circle of death works out before we make a new one that I have to deal with daily. I still say a lot of cut tires are in Meredith's future, hopefully I'm wrong.

06-19-2007, 09:25 AM	#3
DoTheMath Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: MA / Moultonborough Posts: 146 Thanks: 46 Thanked 43 Times in 18 Posts	Solution! If it is modeled after the ones in Europe then... lets drive through it backwards - a-la London - and see if that works!? Maybe that is what we are all missing!?!? "Can't get left... hey look, Big Ben, Parliment - Kids"! Chevy Chase as Clark Griswold in European Vacation

06-19-2007, 11:17 AM	#4
Weirs guy Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Weirs Beach, NH Posts: 1,067 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Lets all make a deal. When the first bus full of tourists gets stuck in the thing post pictures! ...and the wheels on the bus get cut by the curb, cut by the curb, cut by the curb... __________________ Is it bikeweek yet? Now?

06-19-2007, 04:03 PM	#6
krm Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 39 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	? What was the problem with old intersection? Seemed like it was only a problem on bike week? I can think of alot worst intersections that DOT could have fixed.

06-20-2007, 07:41 AM	#9
mets3007 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Minneapolis, MN Posts: 170 Thanks: 3 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Weirs Bridge The Weirs bridge is chaos bridge everyone for themself no rules you go when you want to and stop when you want to instead of traffic from Weirs yeilding letting the cars out from Weirs Blvd and traffic on 11B stopping to let them out, its not rocket science. ( end of mini rant)

06-19-2007, 11:58 AM	#5
fatlazyless Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 8,759 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 300 Thanked 1,013 Times in 738 Posts	Have driven through the Meredith round-about maybe six times, and the traffic flows right well, indeedy-do! Not only is it safer, but it speeds up the flow. I had nothing better to do so round-about I went, twelve times! Just remember that the traffic already in the round-about has the right-of-way. A round-about just may be the solution for the Pleasant St- Route 25 intersection near the movie theatre.

06-20-2007, 05:58 AM	#8
hockeypuck Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Southern CT Posts: 169 Thanks: 19 Thanked 4 Times in 3 Posts	Just had a round-about put in here in southern CT, looks exactly like the one in NH. All the same complaints about waste of money and it creating more accidents, but such has not been the case. Yes, there has been a learning curve on the part of drivers, but it really works pretty well now. Traffic moves, slowly thru the circle, but no big deal. Maybe one should be considered for suicide corner on the Waldo Pepper's side of the Weir's bridge. Most people don't have a clue as to who has the right of way there. Yes, there are signs there, but for some reason they don't seem to be logical. Can't trust drivers esp .first timers to follow them.

06-20-2007, 09:00 AM	#10
hilltopper Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Meredith Posts: 727 Thanks: 25 Thanked 109 Times in 70 Posts	The roundabout has been explained as a way to calm traffic which otherwise backs up at traffic lights. However, you go a few hundered yards toward Meredith on Rt. 3 and you hit a traffic light at the 104 intersection. Does that seem strange to anyone? It may help the traffic at the 106 intersection but won't it just back up again a few hundred yards down the road at the 104 intersection?

06-20-2007, 09:33 AM	#11
chmeeee Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Central CT Posts: 90 Thanks: 19 Thanked 5 Times in 2 Posts	Its still better than having two signals that close together though. Also, I agree that the Weirs bridge would be the perfect place for a roundabout. Queues from a signal would back up over the bridge and past Lakeside Ave and Channel lane, and the existing mess is a death trap. I feel like I have to avoid an accident every other time I go through there.