Increased Marine Patrol Enforcements?

ITD · 07-11-2007, 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by NightWing

Correction, the actual law says "or 6 MPH." There are some conditions, on some bodies of water where the slowest speed necessary to maintain steerage is in excess of 6MPH. When those conditions do not exist, 6 MPH applies.

The wording was changed several years ago.

What conditions would those be???

Skip · 07-11-2007, 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by ITD

What conditions would those be???

Tidal waters for one, here on the seacoast....going against the tidal flow on occasion requires speeds in excess of 6 MPH.

MJM · 07-11-2007, 08:12 AM

We definitely noticed more MP all last week. Good visible presence at the Alton fireworks, and watched them monitoring / pulling boats in the continuous line going into Paugus Bay.

Also watched one spend about an hour checking every mooring for stickers in Jockey Cove.

ITD · 07-11-2007, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Skip

Tidal waters for one, here on the seacoast....going against the tidal flow on occasion requires speeds in excess of 6 MPH.

Thanks skip.

SIKSUKR · 07-11-2007, 09:08 AM

Actually Skip,I'l; disagree a little bit with you.Relative to the water,the speed against the flow could be more than 6mph.Relative to the land it might be a lot less.I think going with the tidal flow would actually require a higher speed relative to the land to maintain control.
This brings up an interesting question.If speed on water is clocked with radar guns it would be relative to the land.If I'm going with the tidal flow and look at my speedo which is based on water flowing by the boat,my speedo might say I'm going 25mph while a radar gun has me at 35mph.Interesting angle that I had not thought about before.

NightWing · 07-11-2007, 10:07 AM

If the southbound current is running @6mph along the shore and your northbound boat is running @6mph over the water you are not going anywhere. A speed over water greater than 6mph would be necessary to make any headway relative to the land.

How about this...................now you are heading south on the same river which is flowing @6mph. If you do NOTHING, you are at 6mph, at the mercy of the current. You can't even steer. In that case, you would have to power up and travel faster than the current in order to maintain steerage. And that is what is meant by the term "the slowest speed possible to maintain steerage OR 6mph."

AC2717 · 07-11-2007, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by NightWing

If the southbound current is running @6mph along the shore and your northbound boat is running @6mph over the water you are not going anywhere. A speed over water greater than 6mph would be necessary to make any headway relative to the land.

How about this...................now you are heading south on the same river which is flowing @6mph. If you do NOTHING, you are at 6mph, at the mercy of the current. You can't even steer. In that case, you would have to power up and travel faster than the current in order to maintain steerage. And that is what is meant by the term "the slowest speed possible to maintain steerage OR 6mph."

If one boat left from The Margate at1:30pm at 28mph and another from Wolfboro at at 1:45pm at 32pmh at what point will they meet lololololololol

SIKSUKR · 07-11-2007, 01:39 PM

That was exactly my point in my last post Nightwing.

NightWing · 07-11-2007, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by SIKSUKR

That was exactly my point in my last post Nightwing.

Yes, unfortunately, I didn't see your post until after I had made mine. I started my post and had to leave it for a while and then finish it when I returned to the computer. In the meanwhile, you slipped in the back door. Oh well, belt and suspenders approach.

07-11-2007, 09:08 AM	#5
SIKSUKR Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 5,075 Thanks: 215 Thanked 903 Times in 509 Posts	Actually Skip,I'l; disagree a little bit with you.Relative to the water,the speed against the flow could be more than 6mph.Relative to the land it might be a lot less.I think going with the tidal flow would actually require a higher speed relative to the land to maintain control. This brings up an interesting question.If speed on water is clocked with radar guns it would be relative to the land.If I'm going with the tidal flow and look at my speedo which is based on water flowing by the boat,my speedo might say I'm going 25mph while a radar gun has me at 35mph.Interesting angle that I had not thought about before. __________________ SIKSUKR

07-11-2007, 01:39 PM	#8
SIKSUKR Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 5,075 Thanks: 215 Thanked 903 Times in 509 Posts	That was exactly my point in my last post Nightwing. __________________ SIKSUKR

07-11-2007, 08:12 AM	#3
MJM Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 262 Thanks: 0 Thanked 23 Times in 11 Posts	We definitely noticed more MP all last week. Good visible presence at the Alton fireworks, and watched them monitoring / pulling boats in the continuous line going into Paugus Bay. Also watched one spend about an hour checking every mooring for stickers in Jockey Cove.

07-11-2007, 10:07 AM	#6
NightWing Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 410 Thanks: 4 Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts	If the southbound current is running @6mph along the shore and your northbound boat is running @6mph over the water you are not going anywhere. A speed over water greater than 6mph would be necessary to make any headway relative to the land. How about this...................now you are heading south on the same river which is flowing @6mph. If you do NOTHING, you are at 6mph, at the mercy of the current. You can't even steer. In that case, you would have to power up and travel faster than the current in order to maintain steerage. And that is what is meant by the term "the slowest speed possible to maintain steerage OR 6mph."