WOW Trail

[fatlazyless]

"Provides a safe place for walking, jogging, bicycling, in-line skating and cross country skiing." is what the WOW trail is intended to be.

Is snowmobiling compatable with the above activities on the narrow corridor of the Winnisquam-Opechee-Winnipesaukee, www.wowtrail.org?

While you as a snowmobiler call it a win-win situation, methinks that people who want to walk, jog, bike, skate, or xc ski would call sharing the narrow trail with snowmobiles very much a lose-lose situation.

Snowmobiles have nothing in common with walking, jogging, biking or xc skiing. As many know, snowmobiles can go very fast with speeds up to 80mph and higher and the two-stroke machines have a very loud high pitched noise, and place lots of two-stroke oil fumes into the air which stinks and lingers.

[chipj29]

Originally Posted by fatlazyless

"Provides a safe place for walking, jogging, bicycling, in-line skating and cross country skiing." is what the WOW trail is intended to be.

Is snowmobiling compatable with the above activities on the narrow corridor of the Winnisquam-Opechee-Winnipesaukee, www.wowtrail.org?

While you as a snowmobiler call it a win-win situation, methinks that people who want to walk, jog, bike, skate, or xc ski would call sharing the narrow trail with snowmobiles very much a lose-lose situation.

Snowmobiles have nothing in common with walking, jogging, biking or xc skiing. As many know, snowmobiles can go very fast with speeds up to 80mph and higher and the two-stroke machines have a very loud high pitched noise, and place lots of two-stroke oil fumes into the air which stinks and lingers.

Yeah, it must really suck to have a groomed flat trail to walk or ski on, provided for FREE by the local snowmobile club.

[WeirsBeachBoater]

Now that someone else opened it, I will join in the fun. FLL, spare me the fast snowmobile speech. All I can tell you is the geniuses that came up with this WOW trail idea, decided to put it alongside the State Corridor Snowmobile trail. So I guess you could say snowmobilers were there first. Put your peaceful trail somewhere else, I am sure there will be a bigger fight, once the landowners along the lake realize their view will soon be obscured by a fence and people taking a break from their exercise, on their front lawns......

[fatlazyless]

This WOW trail as shown on the map in the website would create a walking, jogging, biking, in-line skating, xc skiing, paved trail running along Lake Winnisquam-Lake Opechee-Paugus Bay & Meredith Bay, next to where a single railroad track that's active in the summer now exists. As I understand, the snowmobiles have been using the railroad track, when covered by natural snow, as a trail for years.

It's a State of New Hampshire owned right of way, and an excellent use for a bicycle path because it is very flat, and very scenic being right along the waterfront of three different lakes. The bicycle season potentially lasts from March to December, depending on the snow coverage.

Bicycling is a great way to get in shape, loose weight, increase strength and endurance, is quiet, non-polluting, uses no gasoline, and makes the waterfront available to many who otherwise would not get out to see it.

Plus, it is a cheap way to see the lakes. For just five dollars, I have an old English three-speed bike that I found at a yard sale which would be excellent for the paved level WOW bike trail. If anyone is looking for a cheap usable bike, try the Saint Vincent DePaul store on Union Ave next to McDonald's in Laconia.

Three cheers for everyone involved in making the WOW, Winnisquam-Opechee-Winnipesaukee multi-use, NON-MOTORIZED trail a happening trail, sometime soon!

[brk-lnt]

Originally Posted by fatlazyless

Three cheers for everyone involved in making the WOW, Winnisquam-Opechee-Winnipesaukee multi-use, NON-MOTORIZED trail a happening trail, sometime soon!

Biking and snowmobiling rarely happen concurrently. The weather to permit one activity pretty much excludes the other from taking place.

Your comments seem to speak to the pipe-dream of the trail, and don't address the reality of being, to-date, rather poorly executed. You also made no acknowledgment of the pre-existing snowmobile usage.

I'm not a snowmobiler (but would like to try it), I do enjoy an occasional bike ride. I don't, however, think the WOW trail is a very realistic venture.

[Big D]

Originally Posted by fatlazyless

This WOW trail as shown on the map in the website would create a walking, jogging, biking, in-line skating, xc skiing, paved trail running along Lake Winnisquam-Lake Opechee-Paugus Bay & Meredith Bay, next to where a single railroad track that's active in the summer now exists. As I understand, the snowmobiles have been using the railroad track, when covered by natural snow, as a trail for years.

It's a State of New Hampshire owned right of way, and an excellent use for a bicycle path because it is very flat, and very scenic being right along the waterfront of three different lakes. The bicycle season potentially lasts from March to December, depending on the snow coverage.

Bicycling is a great way to get in shape, loose weight, increase strength and endurance, is quiet, non-polluting, uses no gasoline, and makes the waterfront available to many who otherwise would not get out to see it.

Plus, it is a cheap way to see the lakes. For just five dollars, I have an old English three-speed bike that I found at a yard sale which would be excellent for the paved level WOW bike trail. If anyone is looking for a cheap usable bike, try the Saint Vincent DePaul store on Union Ave next to McDonald's in Laconia.

Three cheers for everyone involved in making the WOW, Winnisquam-Opechee-Winnipesaukee multi-use, NON-MOTORIZED trail a happening trail, sometime soon!

You're correct, it is a New Hampshire state owned right of way. That means we the people own it, not any one user group. I applaud the efforts of those who helped raise money and had the vision to create a trail of this magnitude, but to spend 3 million dollars to locate a nine mile, non motorized trail next to a major snowmobile corrider with no apparent collaborative effort with the snowmobile community makes no sense to me.

Careful what you wish for FLL, exclusionary projects like this may some day limit your access to a sport or to an activity that you enjoy.

Big D

[fatlazyless]

So, what happens when a snowmobile, atv, or motorcycle decides to drive along a sidewalk? If the police department sees it, they get a ticket because it's a violation.

Ever go hikng in the nearby White Mountain National Forest. Hiking trails all have signs at the trail head that says in the fine print below the picture graphics "For non-motorized use only. Motorized use punishable by a $250. fine."

All across the 50 states, there's pedestrian use, and there's motorized use, and the two, just like oil and water, do not mix.
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Hey, I would like to take a dirt motorcycle up and down the seven mile long Livermore Rd that runs from Waterville Valley to the Kangcamangus Hgwy. It would be fun, and it's doable, but I don't do it because the Forest Service has a sign that says it's a $250. violation. Plus, your car insurance bill takes a major hit. That's the rules....

[Skip]

Originally Posted by fatlazyless

...So, what happens when a snowmobile, atv, or motorcycle decides to drive along a sidewalk? If the police department sees it, they get a ticket because it's a violation.

Ever go hikng in the nearby White Mountain National Forest. Hiking trails all have signs at the trail head that says in the fine print below the picture graphics "For non-motorized use only. Motorized use punishable by a $250. fine."

All across the 50 states, there's pedestrian use, and there's motorized use, and the two, just like oil and water, do not mix.
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Actually, this is not always true.

Example? In nearby North Conway by the McDonalds (you should be familiar with that establishment) up to the new Home Depot the paved sidewalks, in the winter, are a shared resource utilized safely by both pedestrians & snowmobiles.

And anyone even remotely familiar with the myriad of snowmobile trail systems in this State is aware that there are many miles of trails that are multi use in the winter. These trails allow mixed snowmobile, snowshoe, cross country ski and dog sledding at the same time.

Snowmobiles have coexisted safely and efficiently on multi-use trails across the State for many years now. That being said, it is a fair question being raised here as to why that same approach is not being utilized in this particular instance.

[Big D]

Originally Posted by fatlazyless

So, what happens when a snowmobile, atv, or motorcycle decides to drive along a sidewalk? If the police department sees it, they get a ticket because it's a violation.

Ever go hikng in the nearby White Mountain National Forest. Hiking trails all have signs at the trail head that says in the fine print below the picture graphics "For non-motorized use only. Motorized use punishable by a $250. fine."

All across the 50 states, there's pedestrian use, and there's motorized use, and the two, just like oil and water, do not mix.
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Hey, I would like to take a dirt motorcycle up and down the seven mile long Livermore Rd that runs from Waterville Valley to the Kangcamangus Hgwy. It would be fun, and it's doable, but I don't do it because the Forest Service has a sign that says it's a $250. violation. Plus, your car insurance bill takes a major hit. That's the rules....

See, you already lost access to the Livermore Rd. What's next....more no rafting area's, or maybe a ban on 3 speed bikes...lousy brakes, they're dangerous!

Stop supporting exclusionary groups; If at all possible, multi use trails are the answer.