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Old 11-09-2007, 09:28 PM   #1
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Coincidentally, and just by a happy coincidence, the NH Dept of Transportation just completed building a sidewalk which goes about 1/2 mile from the Weirs Briidge on up the hill and stops at the new Cumby. So, what better way to save on gasoline than to use the new sidewalk and walk up the hill to buy your beer, cigarettes and lottery tickets.....oops...I mean the $2.79 gal of 1% milk....honest...that's what I meant..

Ever walk around the Weirs and look at the roads, sidealks, buildings, houselots ,and parking lots.....it coud be a documentary movie titled...."Zoning-No Way!"

Don't the new signs and new entrance for Meredith Bay, formerly Akwa Soliel look good. They do, they did a good job.......hope they sell houselots and homes to a lot of weekend folks who have the big money. Every bit helps for the area..
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Old 11-09-2007, 09:50 PM   #2
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This should help in understanding the mechanics of gas pricing.

http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com...s5Dollars.aspx
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Old 11-09-2007, 09:52 PM   #3
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I work hard to contribute to the market force. I strive to always buy the lowest price option. The only way to cause pressure back through the supply chain is to reward the stations with the lowest prices.

That being said, I would rather run out of gas than buy any from Citgo. I feel for the station owners but can only hope they can find a way to switch suppliers.
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Old 11-09-2007, 11:52 PM   #4
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I would rather run out of gas than buy any from Citgo. I feel for the station owners but can only hope they can find a way to switch suppliers.:
Ya know, I get a kick out of folks who get on their high horse and say things like "I won't buy from Citco" because it's owned by Venezuala and because Hugo Chavez does not comply with the Bush policy so he is not a big fan of the U.S.
Hell, the Republicans tried to make Joe Kennedy out to be a traitor to the U.S. because his non-profit gets cheap home heating oil from Venezuala to sell to low income people while Bush refused to help people who can't afford to eat, pay rent and heat their homes. Of course none of the U.S. "allies" would step up to the plate!

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A couple years ago when gasoline was approaching $2.00/gal, President George W Bush said; "If you don't like the price of gas, then just don't buy any. Heck, it's that simple."
Yep, that works to...except if you have to commute to work in order to earn a living....but GW isn't concerned about that now is he FL?

Of course there is no issue with buying persian gulf oil, even though the people who attacked the US on September 11th 2001 were from "allied countries" in the Persian Gulf, can you say Saudi Arabia?

Get a grip.
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Old 11-10-2007, 03:48 AM   #5
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I work hard to contribute to the market force. I strive to always buy the lowest price option. The only way to cause pressure back through the supply chain is to reward the stations with the lowest prices.

That being said, I would rather run out of gas than buy any from Citgo. I feel for the station owners but can only hope they can find a way to switch suppliers.
I have apparently missed something along the way.... What is wrong with Citgo? .... not that it is an issue for me I don't use them anyways, as around me they are usually on the higher end of the price range....
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Electricity from nukes is one of the energy solutions that may help us keep warm and mobile as the oil prices rise. If that happens, NH will be a member of the new energy cartel. The most concentrated source of uranium is in granite, ranging from 2-20 parts per million. (Source: Googling for "uranium in granite"). If rocks in the back yard become the replacement for an oil-well gusher, I have a few 20 ton granite pebbles I'd like to sell.
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Electricity from nukes is one of the energy solutions that may help us keep warm and mobile as the oil prices rise. If that happens, NH will be a member of the new energy cartel. The most concentrated source of uranium is in granite, ranging from 2-20 parts per million. (Source: Googling for "uranium in granite"). If rocks in the back yard become the replacement for an oil-well gusher, I have a few 20 ton granite pebbles I'd like to sell.
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You are dead right that nuclear is the future. It is plain and simple. It is interesting that the folks screaming for energy independence are the same ones protesting Nuclear power, one of the cleanest and most economical sources of energy known to mankind. Take a look at France. This country had a stated goal of energy independence 15 or 20 years ago and they went out did it. Something like 80% of France's energy needs are driven by a series of Nuclear plants. We need to do the same.
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Electricity from nukes is one of the energy solutions that may help us keep warm and mobile as the oil prices rise. If that happens, NH will be a member of the new energy cartel. The most concentrated source of uranium is in granite, ranging from 2-20 parts per million. (Source: Googling for "uranium in granite"). If rocks in the back yard become the replacement for an oil-well gusher, I have a few 20 ton granite pebbles I'd like to sell.
Nukes are they way to go that is for sure. My father worked on the Hanford Nucular Reservation back in the 70s and 80s installing the electric genreation reactors for. Unfortunately because of Three mile Island... and Chernobyl most of the public is entirely to scared of Nuclear Power Plants. I am not sure but I don't think any of the current plants in this country are even at full capacity. The other issue with Nucular Power at this point is the cost of building a new facility, not that all the redundant system and back up aren't necessary, but to build a new facility and get it operational is a major investment. Then through on top of that all the enviornmental cry babies, and their lawyers, and build new Nuclear facilities or even upgraded exsisting ones is a monumental task.

While I agree that Nukes are the way to go. I don't see it as a reality any time soon, for Nukes to supply a majority of our power needs.

Now interesting enough to my surprise I have found that there are some new facilities on their way....according to Wikipedia... the TVA has a reactor Watts Barr 2 planned to come online in 2013... interestingly enough Watts Barr 1 was the last facility in the US to come online in 1996. There are also appearently two reactors being planned for build in Texas to come online in 2014. Note that at the time I am writing this I have not read anything that makes me believe these 3 reactors have full approval... As far as I can tell NRC has been notified, and they are under review. Amazing what you can find in a few minutes on the web.......
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Old 11-10-2007, 04:48 PM   #9
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Some two dozen power plants are scheduled to be built or refurbished during the next five years in Canada, China, several European Union countries, India, Iran, Pakistan, Russia, and South Africa. In the US and the UK, governmental preparations are under way that may lead to 15 new reactor orders by 2007.

About 16% of the world's electricity supply comes from nuclear power, and energy demand is increasing (see PHYSICS TODAY, April 2002). Worldwide, nearly 80% of the 441 commercial nuclear reactors currently in operation are more than 15 years old. To maintain nuclear power's position in the overall energy mix, new reactors will have to replace decommissioned ones, says a report from the Paris-based International Energy Agency.
It is about time we get back to the logical way to generate power. Is there a Nuke mutual fund yet?
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Old 11-10-2007, 10:11 AM   #10
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I have apparently missed something along the way.... What is wrong with Citgo? .... not that it is an issue for me I don't use them anyways, as around me they are usually on the higher end of the price range....
Citgo is owned by the Venezuelan government, which is controlled by Hugo Chávez.

Here's a portion of a 01/11/06 "USATODAY.com" article:

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HOUSTON — From the glass-walled building and manicured lawn to the security guard who greets visitors in a cheerful Texas drawl, everything at Citgo Petroleum seems perfectly ordinary.

But in fact there's nothing ordinary about Citgo. One of the USA's largest refiners, Citgo is a subsidiary of Venezuela's state-owned oil company, Petroleos de Venezuela S.A. (PDVSA). As such, it ultimately belongs to Venezuelan President Hugo Chávez, an avowedly anti-American leader who counts Fidel Castro among his closest friends and mocks President Bush as a "genocidal murderer."

The entire article can be viewed HERE.
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Citgo is owned by the Venezuelan government, which is controlled by Hugo Chávez.

Here's a portion of a 01/11/06 "USATODAY.com" article:

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By David J. Lynch, USA TODAY

HOUSTON — From the glass-walled building and manicured lawn to the security guard who greets visitors in a cheerful Texas drawl, everything at Citgo Petroleum seems perfectly ordinary.

But in fact there's nothing ordinary about Citgo. One of the USA's largest refiners, Citgo is a subsidiary of Venezuela's state-owned oil company, Petroleos de Venezuela S.A. (PDVSA). As such, it ultimately belongs to Venezuelan President Hugo Chávez, an avowedly anti-American leader who counts Fidel Castro among his closest friends and mocks President Bush as a "genocidal murderer."

The entire article can be viewed HERE.
Thanks DRH.... now that I read that I remember finding that out months ago. I knew there was a reason, but last night it just wasn't coming to me...
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Old 11-13-2007, 11:48 PM   #12
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RG just got his stores mixed up.

Cumberland Farms sells Gulf & Exxon products.

http://www.cumberlandfarms.com/gulf/

7-11 stores canned Citgo back in 2006.

http://bluecrabboulevard.com/2006/09...ct-with-citgo/

Braincramps; I get 'em all the time.
I did not say that Cumby sold Citgo. I said that in my
quest to always buy the lowest price I would not
buy from Citgo. I get brain cramps too, but not this
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Old 11-14-2007, 12:39 AM   #13
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Sorry RG,

I misunderstood your comment. Thought we were talking Cumberland Farms here.
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Old 11-14-2007, 03:51 PM   #14
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llforrelaxin......you better sell a LOT of gas if that's your only income stream. Can it be done, I supose so, but I've never seen it. You might be able to make a weeks pay, but not a living. By a living I mean raise a family, send the kids off to college, and own your own home.

My dad did well, a solid middle-class living, but he worked 60 to 80 hours a week all his life. Plowed snow around the clock in storms. He put in a lot of hard work. Most people in that business are not getting rich off a few cents per gallon of gas.
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