Ice-in Watch 2007-2008

fatlazyless · 01-22-2008, 08:25 AM

Pretty good article w/ photos in today's www.citizen.com about someone breaking a suv (a Ford?) thru the Gilford-Winnipesaukee ice, and getting out alive. See, if it had been a Mercedes suv, this would not have been a problem....those Mercedes can just walk on water...

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Supposedly, automobile insurance on a suv will pay on this 'accident', while automobile insurance on a non-suv will not pay, based on the reason that suv's are designed to go off-road, and regular cars are not.

"Hello Progressive Insurance, yes, that's correct, it fell through the cracked ice about 400' from shore. Gosh, was I ever surprised! So's what you say Progressive, am I covered or whatever? Hey, they sure don't make ice like they used to make ice!"

hilltopper · 01-22-2008, 08:54 AM

Looks like we have an early candidate for 2008's Darwin Awards...

jrc · 01-22-2008, 09:15 AM

Wow, he used a new SUV to check the ice. Hope his insurance company has a sense of humor.

jrc · 01-22-2008, 09:24 AM

FLL, the guy in Stratham was 25 years old and lives in Hampton, the guy in the SUV is from Andover and judging by his picture, he is well older than 25.

They could be related, who knows. But it's unfair to tar this guy with unsubstaniated wrongdoings.

ITD · 01-22-2008, 10:08 AM

Hey, the guy isn't fat, he must be a Democrat.

What was this guy thinking, drive onto the lake to check the ice thickness, oh the shame.......

hockeypuck · 01-22-2008, 10:58 AM

As I posted on another thread, "It's like using a match to test for a gas leak."

CanisLupusArctos · 01-22-2008, 11:44 AM

Between Black Cat and Three-Mile yesterday I measured about 4 inches of "snow ice." Very low quality ice. Very fluffy composition. Took only 10 or 12 chops from the mountaineering ax to get through it.

The zero-degree nights have brought a lot less cracking and booming than there would usually be on zero-degree nights, which I presume is a result of the ice composition not being as solid as it could be (i.e. "black ice".) It's all white ice formed from December's 42 inches of snow, melted and re-frozen during that warm spell we had earlier this month.

This white translucent ice holds lake heat much better than clear ice and therefore doesn't thicken as readily. We need an extended period of extremely cold weather - longer than just a few days. Until we get it, continue to distrust this year's ice.

GWC... · 01-22-2008, 05:16 PM

Perhaps he saw Just Sold's pic of Saturday (1-19-2008) at Alton Bay?

Formula260SS · 01-24-2008, 07:37 AM

Anyone have an idea how the ice on the broads is coming along, mainly around rattlesnake??

Weather seems to have been OK for "growing" ice over the past week

Thanks

SteveA · 01-24-2008, 08:28 AM

I drove from Alton to Gilford yesterday afternoon. I looks like the entire Broads has iced over.
I don't know anything about the ice thickness.. but didn't see any open water.

fatlazyless · 01-24-2008, 08:39 AM

Today's www.citizen.com has an article, 'Ice-in Declared', that quotes Island Girl and has links to this website and to the Rattlesnake Island Cam, and airplane aerial views and, interviews, and all sorts of good stuff.

At least one Inquiring mind wants to know; How thick was the ice where the Ford Explorer broke through?

DRH · 01-24-2008, 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fatlazyless

Today's www.citizen.com has an article, 'Ice-in Declared', that quotes Island Girl and has links to this website and to the Rattlesnake Island Cam, and airplane aerial views and, interviews, and all sorts of good stuff.

The print edition of that same article in today's Citizen omits the entire section about winnipesaukee.com and Island Girl that appears in the online edition.

Grant · 01-24-2008, 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fatlazyless

Today's www.citizen.com has an article, 'Ice-in Declared', that quotes Island Girl and has links to this website and to the Rattlesnake Island Cam, and airplane aerial views and, interviews, and all sorts of good stuff.

At least one Inquiring mind wants to know; How thick was the ice where the Ford Explorer broke through?

Where are the aerial views? I assume in the print edition. Bummer.

DRH · 01-24-2008, 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteveA

I drove from Alton to Gilford yesterday afternoon. I looks like the entire Broads has iced over.
I don't know anything about the ice thickness.. but didn't see any open water.

I got a report from an airboat owner who went out to Rattlesnake from Minge Cove yesterday. The ice around Rattlesnake is only 2" - 3" thick and although the air boat didn't break through the ice, the ice sheets were cracking and shifting under the weight of the boat. In his opinion, the ice out there is not yet safe for snowmobile travel.

The cold weather we're having here now (it's 14 degs as I am writing this) will hopefully let the ice grow so it will be safe for travel soon.

Webbsatwinni · 01-28-2008, 08:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DRH

I got a report from an airboat owner who went out to Rattlesnake from Minge Cove yesterday. The ice around Rattlesnake is only 2" - 3" thick

DRH

Any further updates from the lucky airboat owner?

Thanks

Mink Islander · 01-28-2008, 08:31 AM

I took my first hike out to Mink Island on Saturday morning bright and early. I cut holes every couple hundred yards until I was well over towards Mark Island and then tested again about half way between Mark and Mink Islands (when I encountered some slush and wanted to be sure what was under me) Very consistent ice thickness of 8-9" including 2-3 inches of weaker "snow ice" between Cattle Landing and through and around the channel between Mark and Bear Islands and then across to Mink. Overnight, an additional 1-2" formed in front of my place, so conditions are improving quickly. Saw several groups of sleds on Saturday including at least one coming through from the Broads side of Jolly Island from the north -- a bit aggressive given that general area only locked in during the past week. Saw almost zero sled activity today. With the couple of inches of fluff that fell this morning and the additional ice thickness, lake conditions are now quite good in the area I travelled.

Highlight of the morning was a coyote that came bounding over from Bear Island and passed about 50 yards away from me at a full run heading south. Saw him later way off by Mark Island.

On my hike out, I encountered a much expanded ice rift running a bit East of Dolly Island across to the mainland. Pretty consistent 12-18 inch ridge running the whole way across today. Much more pronounced than the day before. Easy enough to cross, but I wouldn't want to hit it at night going fast on a sled....

01-22-2008, 08:25 AM	#1
fatlazyless Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 8,759 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 300 Thanked 1,013 Times in 738 Posts	Pretty good article w/ photos in today's www.citizen.com about someone breaking a suv (a Ford?) thru the Gilford-Winnipesaukee ice, and getting out alive. See, if it had been a Mercedes suv, this would not have been a problem....those Mercedes can just walk on water... .............. Supposedly, automobile insurance on a suv will pay on this 'accident', while automobile insurance on a non-suv will not pay, based on the reason that suv's are designed to go off-road, and regular cars are not. "Hello Progressive Insurance, yes, that's correct, it fell through the cracked ice about 400' from shore. Gosh, was I ever surprised! So's what you say Progressive, am I covered or whatever? Hey, they sure don't make ice like they used to make ice!" __________________ ... down and out, liv'n that Walmart side of the lake! Last edited by fatlazyless; 01-23-2008 at 10:25 AM.

01-22-2008, 05:16 PM	#8
GWC... Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 1,325 Thanks: 5 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Perhaps he saw Just Sold's pic of Saturday (1-19-2008) at Alton Bay? __________________ [Assume funny, clever sig is here. Laugh and reflect... ]

01-24-2008, 07:37 AM	#9
Formula260SS Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: NH Posts: 384 Thanks: 11 Thanked 76 Times in 51 Posts	broads Ice Anyone have an idea how the ice on the broads is coming along, mainly around rattlesnake?? Weather seems to have been OK for "growing" ice over the past week Thanks

01-24-2008, 08:28 AM	#10
SteveA Deceased Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Gilford, NH Posts: 2,311 Thanks: 1,070 Thanked 2,054 Times in 497 Posts	Broads I drove from Alton to Gilford yesterday afternoon. I looks like the entire Broads has iced over. I don't know anything about the ice thickness.. but didn't see any open water. __________________ "Before you criticize someone, walk a mile in his shoes. That way, if he gets angry he'll be a mile away and barefoot!" unknown

01-24-2008, 08:39 AM	#11
fatlazyless Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 8,759 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 300 Thanked 1,013 Times in 738 Posts	Ice-in declared Today's www.citizen.com has an article, 'Ice-in Declared', that quotes Island Girl and has links to this website and to the Rattlesnake Island Cam, and airplane aerial views and, interviews, and all sorts of good stuff. At least one Inquiring mind wants to know; How thick was the ice where the Ford Explorer broke through? __________________ ... down and out, liv'n that Walmart side of the lake!

01-22-2008, 08:54 AM	#2
hilltopper Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Meredith Posts: 727 Thanks: 25 Thanked 109 Times in 70 Posts	Looks like we have an early candidate for 2008's Darwin Awards...

01-22-2008, 09:15 AM	#3
jrc Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: NH Posts: 2,689 Thanks: 33 Thanked 439 Times in 249 Posts	Wow, he used a new SUV to check the ice. Hope his insurance company has a sense of humor.

01-22-2008, 09:24 AM	#4
jrc Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: NH Posts: 2,689 Thanks: 33 Thanked 439 Times in 249 Posts	FLL, the guy in Stratham was 25 years old and lives in Hampton, the guy in the SUV is from Andover and judging by his picture, he is well older than 25. They could be related, who knows. But it's unfair to tar this guy with unsubstaniated wrongdoings.

01-22-2008, 10:08 AM	#5
ITD Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Moultonboro, NH Posts: 2,929 Thanks: 477 Thanked 691 Times in 387 Posts	Hey, the guy isn't fat, he must be a Democrat. What was this guy thinking, drive onto the lake to check the ice thickness, oh the shame.......

01-22-2008, 10:58 AM	#6
hockeypuck Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Southern CT Posts: 169 Thanks: 19 Thanked 4 Times in 3 Posts	As I posted on another thread, "It's like using a match to test for a gas leak."

01-22-2008, 11:44 AM	#7
CanisLupusArctos Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Center Harbor Posts: 1,049 Thanks: 15 Thanked 472 Times in 107 Posts	Between Black Cat and Three-Mile yesterday I measured about 4 inches of "snow ice." Very low quality ice. Very fluffy composition. Took only 10 or 12 chops from the mountaineering ax to get through it. The zero-degree nights have brought a lot less cracking and booming than there would usually be on zero-degree nights, which I presume is a result of the ice composition not being as solid as it could be (i.e. "black ice".) It's all white ice formed from December's 42 inches of snow, melted and re-frozen during that warm spell we had earlier this month. This white translucent ice holds lake heat much better than clear ice and therefore doesn't thicken as readily. We need an extended period of extremely cold weather - longer than just a few days. Until we get it, continue to distrust this year's ice.

01-28-2008, 08:31 AM	#16
Mink Islander Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 753 Thanks: 59 Thanked 271 Times in 129 Posts	More Ice Updates I took my first hike out to Mink Island on Saturday morning bright and early. I cut holes every couple hundred yards until I was well over towards Mark Island and then tested again about half way between Mark and Mink Islands (when I encountered some slush and wanted to be sure what was under me) Very consistent ice thickness of 8-9" including 2-3 inches of weaker "snow ice" between Cattle Landing and through and around the channel between Mark and Bear Islands and then across to Mink. Overnight, an additional 1-2" formed in front of my place, so conditions are improving quickly. Saw several groups of sleds on Saturday including at least one coming through from the Broads side of Jolly Island from the north -- a bit aggressive given that general area only locked in during the past week. Saw almost zero sled activity today. With the couple of inches of fluff that fell this morning and the additional ice thickness, lake conditions are now quite good in the area I travelled. Highlight of the morning was a coyote that came bounding over from Bear Island and passed about 50 yards away from me at a full run heading south. Saw him later way off by Mark Island. On my hike out, I encountered a much expanded ice rift running a bit East of Dolly Island across to the mainland. Pretty consistent 12-18 inch ridge running the whole way across today. Much more pronounced than the day before. Easy enough to cross, but I wouldn't want to hit it at night going fast on a sled....