Roche Realty in Moultonborough

dmjr · 01-21-2008, 08:11 PM

Anyone know why Roche Realty closed the Moultonborough Office?

fatlazyless · 01-21-2008, 08:21 PM

It's because their lease included a property tax escalator clause, and they felt the Town of Moultonboro was just too expensive for them.

jetskier · 01-21-2008, 08:35 PM

I believe that they moved their staff to the office just outside Southdown Shores in Laconia.

Jetskier

dmjr · 01-21-2008, 08:52 PM

Wow! I have never heard of any clause like that.

fatlazyless · 01-21-2008, 09:11 PM

In Boston commercial property like a retail store, the lease usually says that the store pays a certain percentage, like 25 or 50% of the prop tax for the whole building, including any tax increases. Also, in Boston the commercial prop tax is much higher than the residential, so a four story brownstone can get one rate for the first or second floor retail, and a different residential rate for the 2-3-4 floors.

secondcurve · 01-22-2008, 06:28 PM

Maybe because they weren't selling enough houses? That looks like it might be an even bigger problem this year.

Irish mist · 01-22-2008, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by secondcurve

Maybe because they weren't selling enough houses? That looks like it might be an even bigger problem this year.

Perhaps........but have you noticed all the building up here this winter ? There indeed has been a slow-down, but Belknap county sales & price figures are not off as much as you might expect.

Newbiesaukee · 01-24-2008, 12:49 PM

Perhaps to beat the institution of the new lake front building codes

DREAMS · 01-27-2008, 10:57 AM

I actually found the arrival of Frank's new office a breath of needed fresh air to the stale atmosphere which existed within the 50' stretch of C21 and the new Caldwell Banker Outfit. The two big box chains had dominated the area with over 200 agents who mostly have developed a personal aire personality regarding their status quo with the firm and Moultonboro. The newest arrival of Remax at the lights in Center Harbor add a great new generation of youth and energy and down to earth atmosphere so desperately needed. Similar to the softer touch and style of Lamprey Realtors, Brian & Kierra with Remax welcome folks with down to earth generosity and care for providing their quality services. Hopefully, Frank will give Moultonboro another shot in the future. Of course, like others have said the real estate market has been a dieing breed for all those folks with for sale signs the past 3 years. The only major sales are the multimillion dollar homes which once again caters to the second home seasonal markets. Unfortunatley, Moultonboro will raise all our taxes based on these absurd values placed on Lakefront home mansions. What happend to the days of a cottage?

spankie427 · 01-31-2008, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by fatlazyless

It's because their lease included a property tax escalator clause, and they felt the Town of Moultonboro was just too expensive for them.

I think you need to take a look around, watch the news or read the paper because you'd have some fun sitting on your computer thinking of slanderous remarks about each and every real estate office that has closed down recently. Trust me, there's been quite a few.
but actually that is not the reason they closed down at all. from what I understand there were quite a few of them, and an "escalator clause" was definatly not one of them. & Moultonborough too expensive? I think you need to do your research because Moultonborough is one of the cheapest towns to live in in the Lakes Region.

they've also always had an office next to South Down

fatlazyless · 01-31-2008, 11:32 AM

Sorry if I offended anyone wih those comments. I know very little about Moultonboro or the real estate biz. I know Moultonboro has lots of nice little narrow dirt roads that wind around through the woods down to some very nice lake homes, and it's a good place to shop for old, second-hand, fixer-upper sailboats and kayaks. Like a sailboat that was used twice and has been stored upside-down, up behind the garage since 1986, or something.

Basically, I am a state income tax supporter, and like to take a slap at the local property tax system, every now & then.

Roche Realty will be my first stop when it's time for me to upgrade to a more refined life-style. Do they sell cemetary plots?

SIKSUKR · 01-31-2008, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by fatlazyless

Basically, I am a state income tax supporter, and like to take a slap at the local property tax system, every now & then.

Boy FLL,that's the understatement of the year.

secondcurve · 01-31-2008, 05:57 PM

Dreams:

I've never met a realtor I liked. The vast majority of them are overpriced used car salesmen/women.

Irish mist · 02-01-2008, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by spankie427

I think you need to take a look around, watch the news or read the paper because you'd have some fun sitting on your computer thinking of slanderous remarks about each and every real estate office that has closed down recently. Trust me, there's been quite a few.
but actually that is not the reason they closed down at all. from what I understand there were quite a few of them, and an "escalator clause" was definatly not one of them. & Moultonborough too expensive? I think you need to do your research because Moultonborough is one of the cheapest towns to live in in the Lakes Region.

they've also always had an office next to South Down

Don't waste your time on this one......he vomits all over this board with his lies & slander......lol, just read his snarky reply to you. He made his whole post up, and admits as much. I tried to take him to task for some of his behavior, and was set upon by his buddies out here as if I did something wrong, when in reality I was just trying to help keep the board civil. Just ignore him. And welcome to the board, it's a great site.

froggy · 02-09-2008, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by spankie427

they've also always had an office next to South Down

Roche's headquarters office is on Rt 3, Meredith, not at Southdown.

Instead of speculating why the Moultonboro office closed, one could call and ask.

SAMIAM · 02-09-2008, 09:45 AM

FLL supports an income tax......great idea...punish the people that WORK.
I would rather see a sales tax that is fair to everyone....but only if it directly relieved property taxes.

spankie427 · 02-11-2008, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by froggy

Roche's headquarters office is on Rt 3, Meredith, not at Southdown.

Instead of speculating why the Moultonboro office closed, one could call and ask.

Trust me, I know they have 'headquarters' as you call it on Route 3 at the beginning of Grouse Point. BUT! they also have an office next to South Down that had been there alot longer then the Moultonborough office, is what I was getting at. I agree also with, why dont people just call and ask. They are normal human beings too (whether or not you agree) and I'm sure Frank personally wouldnt mind clearing the air of any other slanderous remarks going around.

01-21-2008, 08:11 PM	#1
dmjr Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Moultonborough, NH Posts: 274 Thanks: 2 Thanked 10 Times in 8 Posts	Roche Realty in Moultonborough Anyone know why Roche Realty closed the Moultonborough Office? __________________ DMJR Moultonborough, NH

01-21-2008, 08:21 PM	#2
fatlazyless Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 8,730 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 300 Thanked 1,003 Times in 731 Posts	It's because their lease included a property tax escalator clause, and they felt the Town of Moultonboro was just too expensive for them. __________________ ... down and out, liv'n that Walmart side of the lake!

01-21-2008, 08:35 PM	#3
jetskier Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: North Reading, MA and South Down Shores Posts: 851 Thanks: 57 Thanked 183 Times in 114 Posts	Moved Staff to Laconia. I believe that they moved their staff to the office just outside Southdown Shores in Laconia. Jetskier

01-21-2008, 08:52 PM	#4
dmjr Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Moultonborough, NH Posts: 274 Thanks: 2 Thanked 10 Times in 8 Posts	Wow! I have never heard of any clause like that. __________________ DMJR Moultonborough, NH

01-21-2008, 09:11 PM	#5
fatlazyless Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 8,730 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 300 Thanked 1,003 Times in 731 Posts	In Boston commercial property like a retail store, the lease usually says that the store pays a certain percentage, like 25 or 50% of the prop tax for the whole building, including any tax increases. Also, in Boston the commercial prop tax is much higher than the residential, so a four story brownstone can get one rate for the first or second floor retail, and a different residential rate for the 2-3-4 floors. __________________ ... down and out, liv'n that Walmart side of the lake!

01-22-2008, 06:28 PM	#6
secondcurve Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 2,116 Thanks: 1,321 Thanked 559 Times in 288 Posts	Maybe because they weren't selling enough houses? That looks like it might be an even bigger problem this year.

01-24-2008, 12:49 PM	#8
Newbiesaukee Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Coral Gables, winter; Long Island, summer Posts: 1,353 Thanks: 943 Thanked 573 Times in 298 Posts	Perhaps to beat the institution of the new lake front building codes

01-27-2008, 10:57 AM	#9
DREAMS Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 51 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Too Bad Frank Gave Up I actually found the arrival of Frank's new office a breath of needed fresh air to the stale atmosphere which existed within the 50' stretch of C21 and the new Caldwell Banker Outfit. The two big box chains had dominated the area with over 200 agents who mostly have developed a personal aire personality regarding their status quo with the firm and Moultonboro. The newest arrival of Remax at the lights in Center Harbor add a great new generation of youth and energy and down to earth atmosphere so desperately needed. Similar to the softer touch and style of Lamprey Realtors, Brian & Kierra with Remax welcome folks with down to earth generosity and care for providing their quality services. Hopefully, Frank will give Moultonboro another shot in the future. Of course, like others have said the real estate market has been a dieing breed for all those folks with for sale signs the past 3 years. The only major sales are the multimillion dollar homes which once again caters to the second home seasonal markets. Unfortunatley, Moultonboro will raise all our taxes based on these absurd values placed on Lakefront home mansions. What happend to the days of a cottage?

01-31-2008, 11:32 AM	#11
fatlazyless Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 8,730 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 300 Thanked 1,003 Times in 731 Posts	Sorry if I offended anyone wih those comments. I know very little about Moultonboro or the real estate biz. I know Moultonboro has lots of nice little narrow dirt roads that wind around through the woods down to some very nice lake homes, and it's a good place to shop for old, second-hand, fixer-upper sailboats and kayaks. Like a sailboat that was used twice and has been stored upside-down, up behind the garage since 1986, or something. Basically, I am a state income tax supporter, and like to take a slap at the local property tax system, every now & then. Roche Realty will be my first stop when it's time for me to upgrade to a more refined life-style. Do they sell cemetary plots? __________________ ... down and out, liv'n that Walmart side of the lake! Last edited by fatlazyless; 01-31-2008 at 06:26 PM.

01-31-2008, 05:57 PM	#13
secondcurve Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 2,116 Thanks: 1,321 Thanked 559 Times in 288 Posts	Dreams: I've never met a realtor I liked. The vast majority of them are overpriced used car salesmen/women.

02-09-2008, 09:45 AM	#16
SAMIAM Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Moultonborough Posts: 2,891 Thanks: 334 Thanked 1,673 Times in 584 Posts	FLL supports an income tax......great idea...punish the people that WORK. I would rather see a sales tax that is fair to everyone....but only if it directly relieved property taxes.