,,,that tank is how big?

Grady223 · 03-18-2008, 02:36 PM

Bad idea - you are probably getting gas with Ethanol - not a good thing for boats. Most marinas use gas without ethanol.

VitaBene · 03-18-2008, 05:07 PM

hmmmm I am going to have to look into that- is this an issue with my old boat?

It is an 86 with a 350 Chevy (repowered 3 years ago).

Joh

fatlazyless · 03-18-2008, 05:15 PM

For the record, I have a 4 stroke 70hp outboard, and my boat even has a steering wheel w/ a suicide knob. It's a 1974 aluminum 18 1/2" Starcraft Starchief cabin cruiser....ok...so actually using that tiny cabin could be a little cramped.

What it does have is a countertop in front of the steering wheel, big enough to hold two 12" pizzas, side by side, along with two quarts of Guinness. Sometimes, I get the beer confused with the gasoline, but the engine runs along good, either way! It works as a gasoline additive to smooth out the waves.

SIKSUKR · 03-19-2008, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by fatlazyless

I get the beer confused with the gasoline, but the engine runs along good, either way! It works as a gasoline additive to smooth out the waves.

The question is,do you run good when you have a pint of gas?Hmm...Pizza and gasoline.I wouldn't want to be around when that finishes it's journey.

Rinkerfam · 03-20-2008, 12:02 AM

Our tank holds 75 gallons that will be consumed by a 5 liter Merc. MPI. I figure we burn about 5 gallons an hour. Fortunately most outings consist of a run from the marina to the sand bar and back. Not counting vacation, we probably fuel up 3 or 4 times per season. BTW, I try to remember to do so before dropping below a quarter tank

KBoater · 03-20-2008, 11:23 AM

NH boat is about 80 gal. FL boat is 100 gal. Previous FL boat 200 gal.
I try not to keep a full tank but I share NH boat with the family and they sometimes load it with gas. Pushing extra gas for a short day trip seems crazy.
The FL boat had a bad fuel gauge but I just corrected it so now I can start figuring the fuel consumption. It is much less than the previous boat. Both boats have fuel injected 2 stroke OB. Previous boat was a Grady 232 with hardtop. The cost of storage(cubic inch) and running 2 engines were the reasons for trading. The "new to me" boat is a 2101 Seaswirl DC with a Bimini top and 1 motor. Much cheaper to run and maintain.

NHskier · 03-20-2008, 08:58 PM

1998 Cobalt 232, 7.4L - 55 gallon tank. During our first full season we used 277 gallons.

I KNEW I should have checked the hour meter at the end of the season.

SIKSUKR · 03-21-2008, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by NHskier

I KNEW I should have checked the hour meter at the end of the season.

Should be the same at the begining of this season

kchace · 03-21-2008, 03:30 PM

Fuel tank holds 52 gallons, but at 5+ mpg cruise, the MOST I have ever used during a very full day on the lake is 15 gallons and more often around 10.

Ken

Dave R · 03-18-2008, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Grady223

Bad idea - you are probably getting gas with Ethanol - not a good thing for boats. Most marinas use gas without ethanol.

Been using ethanol laced gas for two+ years. It's fine if you keep it full or empty when stored and don't have a fiberglass tank.

VitaBene · 03-18-2008, 08:55 PM

Thanks for the info Dave- I feel much better now. We have 160 hours on the repower using mostly street pump gas with no problems.

Grady223 · 03-19-2008, 08:19 AM

Another thing about land bought gas - they usually include MBTEs which are carcinogens you are dumping into the Lake.

Dave R · 03-19-2008, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Grady223

Another thing about land bought gas - they usually include MBTEs which are carcinogens you are dumping into the Lake.

Ethanol is put in gas to replace MTBE. By running ethanol blend, I am avoiding MTBE. I also don't dump my gas in the lake.

Grady223 · 03-19-2008, 10:30 AM

Understood, thank you for the clarification. But, no gasoline engine is 100% efficient a small percentage of everyone's fuel ends up in the Lake.

jrc · 03-19-2008, 11:43 AM

There is no land gas and boat gas, it all comes form the same trucks. If you by your fuel from the marina or the same brand and grade down the street at the gas station it's identical. Now if you buy in another state or in a different part of the state you might get a different blend.

I don't think you will find MTBE in any NH fuel, it was phased out because of the water polution issues. This was mainly wells contanimated by leaky gas station tanks.

A modern gasoline boat engine with electronic fuel injection is not putting any measureable fuel in the lake. Most newer engines meet the California three star rating.

Kamper · 03-19-2008, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Grady223

... MBTEs which are carcinogens (are being dumped) into the Lake.

We dont need to feel guilty about our boats. MTBE has been found in water samples thoughout the cycle, including aquifers and mountain springs. It passes through all engines with the exhaust and combines with atmospheric moisture and settles down with the rain.

My safety instructor was with the NHMP. She said MTBE in spilled/wasted gas will evaporate with the gas and enters the cycle the same way as that from exhaust. Granted, she wasnt an atmospheric expert but I agree that boaters are not the pollution culprits we were being made out to be a few years ago.

Ethanol in fuel is fine as long as you dont have a tank or fuel lines that are degraded by it. It is advisable to install water seperating filters if you let this fuel sit for any length of time, especially if it is in a vented container.

And that's all I think I know about that.

Seeker · 03-19-2008, 01:55 PM

My Chris TSF had 1/200 gallon and 2/100 gallon tanks feeding twin 350 Marine Powers. Thank God I don't have that anymore. My 'toon holds 23 feeding a 4 stroke 50hp and the center console holds 52 feeding a 135 Optimax. Both are super fuel efficient.

Formula260SS · 03-22-2008, 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Grady223

Another thing about land bought gas - they usually include MBTEs which are carcinogens you are dumping into the Lake.

If I'm not mistaken they stopped using MBTE didn't they??

robmac · 03-22-2008, 09:42 AM

yes they stopped several years ago when they found how harmful it was to the envirment.I believe NH was one of the first states to ban it.

ITD · 03-22-2008, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by robmac

yes they stopped several years ago when they found how harmful it was to the envirment.I believe NH was one of the first states to ban it.

Yep, it was another environmentalist experiment gone awry. They were finding it in Paugus bay. From what I understood it wouldn't completely burn in engines, on top of leaks and little spills it began showing up in water supplies. I remember when Clinton signed congress' bill into law requiring oil companies to start using increased levels in gas. He told us how much cleaner it would make the environment. I recall the oil companies not being too happy about having to do it. Now they, the oil companies, are being sued by the same government that required them to use it in the first place. There's a lot of junk science being peer reviewed and shoved down our throats. Some of it is right, most of it isn't. Mistakes like this cause us billions, not counting the dangers to lives and property.

03-18-2008, 05:15 PM	#3
fatlazyless Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 8,830 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 302 Thanked 1,033 Times in 752 Posts	For the record, I have a 4 stroke 70hp outboard, and my boat even has a steering wheel w/ a suicide knob. It's a 1974 aluminum 18 1/2" Starcraft Starchief cabin cruiser....ok...so actually using that tiny cabin could be a little cramped. What it does have is a countertop in front of the steering wheel, big enough to hold two 12" pizzas, side by side, along with two quarts of Guinness. Sometimes, I get the beer confused with the gasoline, but the engine runs along good, either way! It works as a gasoline additive to smooth out the waves. __________________ ... down and out, liv'n that Walmart side of the lake!

03-20-2008, 12:02 AM	#5
Rinkerfam Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 268 Thanks: 0 Thanked 14 Times in 8 Posts	Our tank holds 75 gallons that will be consumed by a 5 liter Merc. MPI. I figure we burn about 5 gallons an hour. Fortunately most outings consist of a run from the marina to the sand bar and back. Not counting vacation, we probably fuel up 3 or 4 times per season. BTW, I try to remember to do so before dropping below a quarter tank __________________ Education is hanging around 'til you've caught on - Frost

03-20-2008, 11:23 AM	#6
KBoater Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Wolfeboro Posts: 521 Thanks: 10 Thanked 29 Times in 15 Posts	2 boats NH boat is about 80 gal. FL boat is 100 gal. Previous FL boat 200 gal. I try not to keep a full tank but I share NH boat with the family and they sometimes load it with gas. Pushing extra gas for a short day trip seems crazy. The FL boat had a bad fuel gauge but I just corrected it so now I can start figuring the fuel consumption. It is much less than the previous boat. Both boats have fuel injected 2 stroke OB. Previous boat was a Grady 232 with hardtop. The cost of storage(cubic inch) and running 2 engines were the reasons for trading. The "new to me" boat is a 2101 Seaswirl DC with a Bimini top and 1 motor. Much cheaper to run and maintain. __________________ Home Permanently in NH

03-20-2008, 08:58 PM	#7
NHskier Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 293 Thanks: 45 Thanked 37 Times in 34 Posts	1998 Cobalt 232, 7.4L - 55 gallon tank. During our first full season we used 277 gallons. I KNEW I should have checked the hour meter at the end of the season. __________________ NHskier

03-18-2008, 02:36 PM	#1
Grady223 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: New Hope, PA & Barndoor Island Posts: 465 Thanks: 93 Thanked 24 Times in 18 Posts	Bad idea - you are probably getting gas with Ethanol - not a good thing for boats. Most marinas use gas without ethanol.

03-18-2008, 05:07 PM	#2
VitaBene Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Moultonborough Posts: 3,605 Thanks: 1,653 Thanked 1,645 Times in 848 Posts	hmmmm I am going to have to look into that- is this an issue with my old boat? It is an 86 with a 350 Chevy (repowered 3 years ago). Joh

03-21-2008, 03:30 PM	#9
kchace Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Brookline and Moultonborough NH Posts: 100 Thanks: 4 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Fuel tank holds 52 gallons, but at 5+ mpg cruise, the MOST I have ever used during a very full day on the lake is 15 gallons and more often around 10. Ken

03-18-2008, 08:55 PM	#11
VitaBene Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Moultonborough Posts: 3,605 Thanks: 1,653 Thanked 1,645 Times in 848 Posts	Thanks for the info Dave- I feel much better now. We have 160 hours on the repower using mostly street pump gas with no problems.

03-19-2008, 08:19 AM	#12
Grady223 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: New Hope, PA & Barndoor Island Posts: 465 Thanks: 93 Thanked 24 Times in 18 Posts	Another thing about land bought gas - they usually include MBTEs which are carcinogens you are dumping into the Lake.

03-19-2008, 10:30 AM	#14
Grady223 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: New Hope, PA & Barndoor Island Posts: 465 Thanks: 93 Thanked 24 Times in 18 Posts	Understood, thank you for the clarification. But, no gasoline engine is 100% efficient a small percentage of everyone's fuel ends up in the Lake.

03-19-2008, 11:43 AM	#15
jrc Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: NH Posts: 2,689 Thanks: 33 Thanked 439 Times in 249 Posts	There is no land gas and boat gas, it all comes form the same trucks. If you by your fuel from the marina or the same brand and grade down the street at the gas station it's identical. Now if you buy in another state or in a different part of the state you might get a different blend. I don't think you will find MTBE in any NH fuel, it was phased out because of the water polution issues. This was mainly wells contanimated by leaky gas station tanks. A modern gasoline boat engine with electronic fuel injection is not putting any measureable fuel in the lake. Most newer engines meet the California three star rating.

03-19-2008, 01:55 PM	#17
Seeker Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Effingham Posts: 408 Thanks: 37 Thanked 19 Times in 15 Posts	My Chris TSF had 1/200 gallon and 2/100 gallon tanks feeding twin 350 Marine Powers. Thank God I don't have that anymore. My 'toon holds 23 feeding a 4 stroke 50hp and the center console holds 52 feeding a 135 Optimax. Both are super fuel efficient.

03-22-2008, 09:42 AM	#19
robmac Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Nashua,Meredith Posts: 951 Thanks: 213 Thanked 106 Times in 81 Posts	yes they stopped several years ago when they found how harmful it was to the envirment.I believe NH was one of the first states to ban it.