Road pavement conditions are horrible.

PennyPenny · 03-22-2008, 09:29 PM

All the roads were just dirt roads again like many years ago. We would all have to slow down, enjoy the scenery, wave to passerbys,yeild to horse and buggy, stop and talk to our neighbors etc. Just imagine life without the frostheaves and pavement. Maybe time wouldn"t pass by so quickly.

dpg · 03-25-2008, 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by PennyPenny

All the roads were just dirt roads again like many years ago. We would all have to slow down, enjoy the scenery, wave to passerbys,yeild to horse and buggy, stop and talk to our neighbors etc. Just imagine life without the frostheaves and pavement. Maybe time wouldn"t pass by so quickly.

You can remain on the Ponderosa with the Cartwrights, I'll stay right here in the present.

MaidenCove07 · 03-26-2008, 09:20 AM

Well I got a call from a survey company asking me if I wanted to have my property surveyed as they plan to blast on Scenic rd to re-lay the pavement and put in more sewer lines starting Monday! (Thanks for the notice guys.)
My trailer sits of 40 year old cement blocks and pieces of wood and sits less than 150 feet from the road, but this fella tried to convince me that the shaking would have little effect. HA....I'm not convinced....

I'm semi-happy to have the road repaired, but blasting???? Really????

VitaBene · 03-26-2008, 05:04 PM

I am going to preface my comments by saying I love NH roads in general. I split my time pretty equally between MA and NH and can see the glaring differences in road management.

MA- Roads are in general a mess. Highway transitions at bridges are terrible. However, when MA repairs a road or if a town does with MA assistance then the repaired road has to meet the current standards which includes reworking the sub grade materials, side walks, specific curbing material, etc. What this means is when MA repairs a road, it is generally pretty good for 15 years. Example- I live off Rt 106 in Mansfield MA which was newly rebuilt 15 years ago when we moved in- it is just at the point where it will need to be topcoated but overall it is worn but OK.

NH- Roads in general are in good shape. Frostheaves are terrible usually. NH is into tourist road comfort. I get a kick out of the bump signs - when you cross the bump it is barely noticable. If you see one of those posted in MA your are entering the Grand Canyon. The philosophy in NH is that they would rather put a topcoat on a road every few years on more roads but are reluctant to rebuild roads to current standards. Personally I prefer this over the MA model. For examples here I would say Rt 104 which i believe was repaved 3 years ago in the fall. Rt 25B, which was repaved 2 summers ago but was as bad the following winter. Both settled back down once the frost was out.

All I know is that the frostheaves will settle down while leaving a little more "character" in the road for those of us who prefer casual motorcycle rides on NH's beautiful winding roads. In the meantime, as Penny said, perhaps we will be able to enjoy the scenery a bit more at our slower pace!

Grant · 04-01-2008, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by VitaBene

I am going to preface my comments by saying I love NH roads in general. I split my time pretty equally between MA and NH and can see the glaring differences in road management.

MA- Roads are in general a mess. Highway transitions at bridges are terrible. However, when MA repairs a road or if a town does with MA assistance then the repaired road has to meet the current standards which includes reworking the sub grade materials, side walks, specific curbing material, etc. What this means is when MA repairs a road, it is generally pretty good for 15 years. Example- I live off Rt 106 in Mansfield MA which was newly rebuilt 15 years ago when we moved in- it is just at the point where it will need to be topcoated but overall it is worn but OK.

NH- Roads in general are in good shape. Frostheaves are terrible usually. NH is into tourist road comfort. I get a kick out of the bump signs - when you cross the bump it is barely noticable. If you see one of those posted in MA your are entering the Grand Canyon. The philosophy in NH is that they would rather put a topcoat on a road every few years on more roads but are reluctant to rebuild roads to current standards. Personally I prefer this over the MA model. For examples here I would say Rt 104 which i believe was repaved 3 years ago in the fall. Rt 25B, which was repaved 2 summers ago but was as bad the following winter. Both settled back down once the frost was out.

All I know is that the frostheaves will settle down while leaving a little more "character" in the road for those of us who prefer casual motorcycle rides on NH's beautiful winding roads. In the meantime, as Penny said, perhaps we will be able to enjoy the scenery a bit more at our slower pace!

Great comparison. And, if I may add another perspective, I invite anyone to come sample the horror that passes for "blacktop" here in Pennsylvania. As a former highway department employee (who worked for a municipality that KNEW HOW to take care of its roads) and life-long visitor to the Lakes Region, I can honestly and authoritatively say that New Hampshire KNOWS how to maintain its roads, and does it well. Their snow removal is exceptional, and even the "backroads" that lack permanent concrete underpinnings are paved regularly. Yes, frost heaves are a mutha. But they come with the proverbial territory. Here in SE Pennsyltuckey, where this year we had, oh, approximately 112 fewer inches of snow than the Lakes Region, and maybe four truly cold days, our roads make Baghdad's look like granite counter tops. Ask any long-haul trucker, and they'll concur. When it comes to crap roads, there's no place like Pennsylvania.

Weirs guy · 03-26-2008, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by MaidenCove07

Well I got a call from a survey company asking me if I wanted to have my property surveyed as they plan to blast on Scenic rd to re-lay the pavement and put in more sewer lines starting Monday! (Thanks for the notice guys.)
My trailer sits of 40 year old cement blocks and pieces of wood and sits less than 150 feet from the road, but this fella tried to convince me that the shaking would have little effect. HA....I'm not convinced....

I'm semi-happy to have the road repaired, but blasting???? Really????

Question, how will we know the blasted parts from the rest of the crappy road?

Pepper · 03-26-2008, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Weirs guy

Question, how will we know the blasted parts from the rest of the crappy road?

SO true!

Hottrucks · 03-27-2008, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by MaidenCove07

Well I got a call from a survey company asking me if I wanted to have my property surveyed as they plan to blast on Scenic rd to re-lay the pavement and put in more sewer lines starting Monday! (Thanks for the notice guys.)
My trailer sits of 40 year old cement blocks and pieces of wood and sits less than 150 feet from the road, but this fella tried to convince me that the shaking would have little effect. HA....I'm not convinced....

I'm semi-happy to have the road repaired, but blasting???? Really????

Ok a couple things first off the state pulled 4 Billion out of resurfacing this year...trust me I know.....

as far as blasting Best thing to do is take pics of all you blocks and any other structure you may have that you would consider fragile.....if you have any issues be sure to bring them to the site inspector Not the company...I go thru this routinely and use a seismograph meter to monitor and blasks..I think it is required on most jobs........

03-22-2008, 09:29 PM	#1
PennyPenny Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 140 Thanks: 4 Thanked 8 Times in 5 Posts	What if... All the roads were just dirt roads again like many years ago. We would all have to slow down, enjoy the scenery, wave to passerbys,yeild to horse and buggy, stop and talk to our neighbors etc. Just imagine life without the frostheaves and pavement. Maybe time wouldn"t pass by so quickly.

03-26-2008, 09:20 AM	#3
MaidenCove07 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Manchester in Winter, Weirs Beach in Summer & Fall Posts: 132 Thanks: 29 Thanked 17 Times in 7 Posts	Blasting on Scenic Rd. Well I got a call from a survey company asking me if I wanted to have my property surveyed as they plan to blast on Scenic rd to re-lay the pavement and put in more sewer lines starting Monday! (Thanks for the notice guys.) My trailer sits of 40 year old cement blocks and pieces of wood and sits less than 150 feet from the road, but this fella tried to convince me that the shaking would have little effect. HA....I'm not convinced.... I'm semi-happy to have the road repaired, but blasting???? Really????

03-26-2008, 05:04 PM	#4
VitaBene Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Moultonborough Posts: 3,595 Thanks: 1,640 Thanked 1,641 Times in 844 Posts	I am going to preface my comments by saying I love NH roads in general. I split my time pretty equally between MA and NH and can see the glaring differences in road management. MA- Roads are in general a mess. Highway transitions at bridges are terrible. However, when MA repairs a road or if a town does with MA assistance then the repaired road has to meet the current standards which includes reworking the sub grade materials, side walks, specific curbing material, etc. What this means is when MA repairs a road, it is generally pretty good for 15 years. Example- I live off Rt 106 in Mansfield MA which was newly rebuilt 15 years ago when we moved in- it is just at the point where it will need to be topcoated but overall it is worn but OK. NH- Roads in general are in good shape. Frostheaves are terrible usually. NH is into tourist road comfort. I get a kick out of the bump signs - when you cross the bump it is barely noticable. If you see one of those posted in MA your are entering the Grand Canyon. The philosophy in NH is that they would rather put a topcoat on a road every few years on more roads but are reluctant to rebuild roads to current standards. Personally I prefer this over the MA model. For examples here I would say Rt 104 which i believe was repaved 3 years ago in the fall. Rt 25B, which was repaved 2 summers ago but was as bad the following winter. Both settled back down once the frost was out. All I know is that the frostheaves will settle down while leaving a little more "character" in the road for those of us who prefer casual motorcycle rides on NH's beautiful winding roads. In the meantime, as Penny said, perhaps we will be able to enjoy the scenery a bit more at our slower pace!