Surf Coaster Closed

chocophile · 08-05-2007, 08:31 PM

We discovered that Surf Coaster in Weirs Beach is closed this year. Any additional info?

Resident 2B · 08-05-2007, 09:11 PM

In the winter/spring, there were a few local newspaper articles that mentioned they were in the permitting and possibly rezoning process in hopes of building a sunstantial hotel with some of the current Surf Coaster as a related attraction.

I do not know the current status of that project.

There was another seperate project also mentioned for the area across Lucerne Ave from the Weirs Beach firestation. This would be smaller, but on the water possibly with a connection foot bridge to the beach at Weirs. Again, I have no idea where that project currently stands.

So, there are possible changes coming to the Weirs area that should increase the amount of visitors to the general area. Time will tell!

R2B

Weirs guy · 08-16-2007, 11:49 AM

Thus far the only thing thats been done at Surfcoaster this summer is the Camaro for sale has lost some air in its tires and the parking lots springing grass. Hopefully someone at least utilizes some of the slides there.

redc5 · 08-17-2007, 10:31 AM

The couple that own Surfcoaster just completed their messy divorce a couple months ago. Next time I run inot her, I'll ask about the property

sa meredith · 04-10-2008, 12:01 PM

Curious about what has become of this property. Is all the Surf Coaster equipment still there, or has it been de-constructed?

Resident 2B · 04-10-2008, 02:16 PM

All the equipment is there and there is a rather large "For Sale" sign on the fence.

R2B

sa meredith · 04-10-2008, 02:44 PM

Resident 2B
I like the heading of your post "Stuck in time"....like the rest of the Weirs area.

jetskier · 04-10-2008, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by sa meredith

Resident 2B
I like the heading of your post "Stuck in time"....like the rest of the Weirs area.

Here is the link to the listing. If you have a little spare change, maybe you could pick it up.

Jetskier

http://www.rocherealty.com/qsresult....%5D=6&thetowns[]=Laconia+NH&MinPrice=0&MaxPrice=0&submit=Search+Listings

Pepper · 04-10-2008, 09:31 PM

Ouch! Methinks it might be a little while before that particular parcel moves.

nj2nh · 04-11-2008, 10:20 AM

$3.7 million for 13 acres, but the taxes are only $26000+. Hefty price - nice taxes.

My house (1/8 acre, tiny building) is $13000.

Hmmmmmm.

nj2nh

nj2nh · 04-11-2008, 10:26 AM

After looking at the listing for Surf Coaster, I began, well, surfing throught the other listings.

JT's is for sale as is Dakota Leather. They are both across the street from Funspot, I think.

And that new mini-golf/arcade that was put in where Dexter's Shoes used to be is for rent - for $6. That has to be a mistake. Doesn't look good for Weirs/Laconia businesses right now.

nj2nh

dpg · 04-11-2008, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by nj2nh

$3.7 million for 13 acres, but the taxes are only $26000+. Hefty price - nice taxes.

My house (1/8 acre, tiny building) is $13000.

Hmmmmmm.

nj2nh

1,000 + per month for taxes? Time to move...

nj2nh · 04-11-2008, 01:16 PM

Okay, I don't want to get into a tax discussion, but taxes in northern NJ are pretty much like this all over. Would I prefer somewhere else? You bet since I am not a Jersey Girl to begin with. Grew up in Massachusetts which really isn't much better.

For our tax dollars, though, we get garbage pick-up without having to put the cans at the curb. We have recycling pick-up. We have excellent snow removal and a wonderful police department. We have recreational sports teams for soccer, baseball, basketball and lacrosse for every age group. The bulk of our taxes is, of course, our schools. Our high school - with its 800 or so students - was ranked 6th in the state, better than regional schools with lots more money, better than the wealthier communities, better than all but 5 towns.

I would rather pay taxes than tuition, so here I am staying (until my kids graduate and I make the move north that I have been dying to make since I was five years old).

nj2nh

GTO · 04-11-2008, 02:14 PM

JT's is for sale as is Dakota Leather. They are both across the street from Funspot, I think.

Does that mean that Jolly Jays will survive and remain open? Man, I guess winters are lonely up there. I guess its time for me to get a DVD player.

Mr. V · 04-11-2008, 09:09 PM

A recent survey said that about half the people living in NJ wanted to move somewhere else out of state.

I was born and raised there and got OUT as soon as I could, and never returned.

"The Garden State?"

Right.

More like "Riots, crime, rabid minorities and super expensive cost of living" state.

nj2nh · 04-12-2008, 08:10 AM

Now, in fairness, there is no crime or riots where I live. In fact, I think that if I had not been going to NH for every one of my 47 years (

), I would be perfectly content to stay in my little corner of Bergen County pretty much forever. My town is pretty much like Mayberry or Mitford. There is a Halloween parade with all the little ones who trick or treat at the stores in town. The football team and cheerleaders go through town every Saturday morning, tooting horns to get the team all riled up for the game. The baseball kids have a parade on opening day. We have the best Fourth of July parade in the area and it all made up of Boy Scouts, Girl Scouts, baseball players, and antique cars.

The town council fights with the Bd of Ed on a regular basis and then they all go out for beer. Our kids go to top colleges and universities. Our newspaper features kids on the front page every week with the occasional shot of ladies playing Mah Jong at the library or the superintendant reading to the kids for Dr. Suess' birthday. The library has two pages in the paper with all its goings on from week to week. The PTA sponsors a walk-to-school day (no buses here) and awards prizes to every kid who participated.

Taxes, well, yes. We got those in abundance. But, overall, my town is a pretty darn nice place to live.

Would I prefer Alton Bay? You betcha! Which is why by screen name is . . .

nj2nh

Mr. V · 04-12-2008, 01:55 PM

No riots in NJ recently, but I was a young teen when the riots happened, the ones in Newark and Plainfield.

Lived near Plainfield: went to a meeting at a local school auditorium, teachers and others were trying to teach self-defense to the all white audience, including how to kill.

Whoa.

It was time to leave that vale of tears...

The town I grew up in, pretty much all white then, is now mostly Hispanic.

The town next to it is now mostly black.

Hello, White Flight.

Pepper · 04-12-2008, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by nj2nh

...And that new mini-golf/arcade that was put in where Dexter's Shoes used to be is for rent - for $6. That has to be a mistake. Doesn't look good for Weirs/Laconia businesses right now.

nj2nh

That would be $6 per square foot rent per month, triple net.

pirkaus · 04-12-2008, 07:53 PM

I'm from Jersey, you from Jersey?
New Jersey, it's a great place to be FROM

Moved up here in '77

Waterbaby · 04-12-2008, 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pepper

That would be $6 per square foot rent per month, triple net.

see above, lol.

brk-lnt · 04-13-2008, 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Waterbaby

see above, lol.

(honest question) Have you ever rented/leased commercial real estate? $6NNN is cheap for industrial space, much less for anything that is more "retail"-ish.

CentreHarborEric · 04-14-2008, 11:03 AM

Leasing commercial space is what I do, though I've never leased an arcade or a mini golf course before.
The $6/SF NNN in this case could refer not only to buildings but also land, which might all of the sudden make this look very expensive. My guess is that the actual SF of buildings is minor, and for this reason the rent couldn't be based on that.
Retail leases often include clauses where the tenant pays the landlord a percentage of receipts or profits, too.
Keep in mind, most users would get 12 months of use out of their $6/SF NNN warehouse space, getting 2.5-3 months of good use plus maybe a month or 2 in the shoulder seasons for a property/use like this changes the equation.
But, a lot of the work has been done in permitting, development, construction, signage, etc., so it does have the benefit of low start up cost!

Waterbaby · 04-14-2008, 07:41 PM

Sometimes I can express myself, and sometimes I can't because I just "intuit" things -- you did a great job of explaining what I had in my head and couldn't get on paper, so to speak. Or not to speak, lol. I know the property/location, and the access or lack thereof during busy times in that area; also the reputation of it being pretty high-priced for a mini-golf course so the next "owner" would have to deal with that, and I just thought it was a bit high. Thanks again!

(Perhaps Starbucks should rent it and sell coffee from the "clubhouse"? lol)

08-05-2007, 08:31 PM	#1
chocophile Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: 19-Mile Bay Posts: 111 Thanks: 15 Thanked 30 Times in 13 Posts	Surf Coaster Closed We discovered that Surf Coaster in Weirs Beach is closed this year. Any additional info?

08-05-2007, 09:11 PM	#2
Resident 2B Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: North Shore, MA Posts: 1,357 Thanks: 994 Thanked 313 Times in 163 Posts	New Hotel(s)???? In the winter/spring, there were a few local newspaper articles that mentioned they were in the permitting and possibly rezoning process in hopes of building a sunstantial hotel with some of the current Surf Coaster as a related attraction. I do not know the current status of that project. There was another seperate project also mentioned for the area across Lucerne Ave from the Weirs Beach firestation. This would be smaller, but on the water possibly with a connection foot bridge to the beach at Weirs. Again, I have no idea where that project currently stands. So, there are possible changes coming to the Weirs area that should increase the amount of visitors to the general area. Time will tell! R2B

08-16-2007, 11:49 AM	#3
Weirs guy Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Weirs Beach, NH Posts: 1,067 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Thus far the only thing thats been done at Surfcoaster this summer is the Camaro for sale has lost some air in its tires and the parking lots springing grass. Hopefully someone at least utilizes some of the slides there. __________________ Is it bikeweek yet? Now?

04-10-2008, 12:01 PM	#5
sa meredith Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 986 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 32 Thanked 352 Times in 137 Posts	Current status???? Curious about what has become of this property. Is all the Surf Coaster equipment still there, or has it been de-constructed?

04-10-2008, 02:16 PM	#6
Resident 2B Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: North Shore, MA Posts: 1,357 Thanks: 994 Thanked 313 Times in 163 Posts	Stuck in Time... All the equipment is there and there is a rather large "For Sale" sign on the fence. R2B

08-17-2007, 10:31 AM	#4
redc5 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Gilford NH Posts: 64 Thanks: 4 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	The couple that own Surfcoaster just completed their messy divorce a couple months ago. Next time I run inot her, I'll ask about the property

04-10-2008, 02:44 PM	#7
sa meredith Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 986 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 32 Thanked 352 Times in 137 Posts	Ironic Resident 2B I like the heading of your post "Stuck in time"....like the rest of the Weirs area.

04-10-2008, 09:31 PM	#9
Pepper Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Laconia, NH Posts: 1,284 Thanks: 409 Thanked 155 Times in 40 Posts	Ouch! Methinks it might be a little while before that particular parcel moves. __________________ Never waste time lamenting what was. Simply celebrate what is!

04-11-2008, 10:20 AM	#10
nj2nh Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: NJ Posts: 529 Thanks: 80 Thanked 47 Times in 27 Posts	Wow! $3.7 million for 13 acres, but the taxes are only $26000+. Hefty price - nice taxes. My house (1/8 acre, tiny building) is $13000. Hmmmmmm. nj2nh __________________

04-11-2008, 10:26 AM	#11
nj2nh Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: NJ Posts: 529 Thanks: 80 Thanked 47 Times in 27 Posts	Other businesses for sale, too. After looking at the listing for Surf Coaster, I began, well, surfing throught the other listings. JT's is for sale as is Dakota Leather. They are both across the street from Funspot, I think. And that new mini-golf/arcade that was put in where Dexter's Shoes used to be is for rent - for $6. That has to be a mistake. Doesn't look good for Weirs/Laconia businesses right now. nj2nh __________________

04-11-2008, 01:16 PM	#13
nj2nh Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: NJ Posts: 529 Thanks: 80 Thanked 47 Times in 27 Posts	Okay, I don't want to get into a tax discussion, but taxes in northern NJ are pretty much like this all over. Would I prefer somewhere else? You bet since I am not a Jersey Girl to begin with. Grew up in Massachusetts which really isn't much better. For our tax dollars, though, we get garbage pick-up without having to put the cans at the curb. We have recycling pick-up. We have excellent snow removal and a wonderful police department. We have recreational sports teams for soccer, baseball, basketball and lacrosse for every age group. The bulk of our taxes is, of course, our schools. Our high school - with its 800 or so students - was ranked 6th in the state, better than regional schools with lots more money, better than the wealthier communities, better than all but 5 towns. I would rather pay taxes than tuition, so here I am staying (until my kids graduate and I make the move north that I have been dying to make since I was five years old). nj2nh __________________

04-11-2008, 02:14 PM	#14
GTO Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 1,085 Thanks: 338 Thanked 349 Times in 161 Posts	wow JT's is for sale as is Dakota Leather. They are both across the street from Funspot, I think. Does that mean that Jolly Jays will survive and remain open? Man, I guess winters are lonely up there. I guess its time for me to get a DVD player. __________________ GTO

04-11-2008, 09:09 PM	#15
Mr. V Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: the left coast (Portland)and West Alton Posts: 1,396 Thanks: 63 Thanked 256 Times in 174 Posts	A recent survey said that about half the people living in NJ wanted to move somewhere else out of state. I was born and raised there and got OUT as soon as I could, and never returned. "The Garden State?" Right. More like "Riots, crime, rabid minorities and super expensive cost of living" state.

04-12-2008, 08:10 AM	#16
nj2nh Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: NJ Posts: 529 Thanks: 80 Thanked 47 Times in 27 Posts	Now, in fairness, there is no crime or riots where I live. In fact, I think that if I had not been going to NH for every one of my 47 years (), I would be perfectly content to stay in my little corner of Bergen County pretty much forever. My town is pretty much like Mayberry or Mitford. There is a Halloween parade with all the little ones who trick or treat at the stores in town. The football team and cheerleaders go through town every Saturday morning, tooting horns to get the team all riled up for the game. The baseball kids have a parade on opening day. We have the best Fourth of July parade in the area and it all made up of Boy Scouts, Girl Scouts, baseball players, and antique cars. The town council fights with the Bd of Ed on a regular basis and then they all go out for beer. Our kids go to top colleges and universities. Our newspaper features kids on the front page every week with the occasional shot of ladies playing Mah Jong at the library or the superintendant reading to the kids for Dr. Suess' birthday. The library has two pages in the paper with all its goings on from week to week. The PTA sponsors a walk-to-school day (no buses here) and awards prizes to every kid who participated. Taxes, well, yes. We got those in abundance. But, overall, my town is a pretty darn nice place to live. Would I prefer Alton Bay? You betcha! Which is why by screen name is . . . nj2nh __________________

04-12-2008, 01:55 PM	#17
Mr. V Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: the left coast (Portland)and West Alton Posts: 1,396 Thanks: 63 Thanked 256 Times in 174 Posts	No riots in NJ recently, but I was a young teen when the riots happened, the ones in Newark and Plainfield. Lived near Plainfield: went to a meeting at a local school auditorium, teachers and others were trying to teach self-defense to the all white audience, including how to kill. Whoa. It was time to leave that vale of tears... The town I grew up in, pretty much all white then, is now mostly Hispanic. The town next to it is now mostly black. Hello, White Flight.

04-12-2008, 07:53 PM	#19
pirkaus Junior Member Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 16 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I'm from Jersey, you from Jersey? New Jersey, it's a great place to be FROM Moved up here in '77 __________________ If the law is 5 fish or 5 pounds, what if the 5th fish weighs 5 pounds

04-14-2008, 11:03 AM	#22
CentreHarborEric Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 48 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	$6/sf Nnn Leasing commercial space is what I do, though I've never leased an arcade or a mini golf course before. The $6/SF NNN in this case could refer not only to buildings but also land, which might all of the sudden make this look very expensive. My guess is that the actual SF of buildings is minor, and for this reason the rent couldn't be based on that. Retail leases often include clauses where the tenant pays the landlord a percentage of receipts or profits, too. Keep in mind, most users would get 12 months of use out of their $6/SF NNN warehouse space, getting 2.5-3 months of good use plus maybe a month or 2 in the shoulder seasons for a property/use like this changes the equation. But, a lot of the work has been done in permitting, development, construction, signage, etc., so it does have the benefit of low start up cost!

04-14-2008, 07:41 PM	#23
Waterbaby Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Kensington, NH and Paugus Bay Marina Posts: 656 Thanks: 323 Thanked 17 Times in 13 Posts	Thank you! Sometimes I can express myself, and sometimes I can't because I just "intuit" things -- you did a great job of explaining what I had in my head and couldn't get on paper, so to speak. Or not to speak, lol. I know the property/location, and the access or lack thereof during busy times in that area; also the reputation of it being pretty high-priced for a mini-golf course so the next "owner" would have to deal with that, and I just thought it was a bit high. Thanks again! (Perhaps Starbucks should rent it and sell coffee from the "clubhouse"? lol) __________________ On the boat is always waterfront!