Boaters certificate question

John A. Birdsall · 05-27-2008, 03:44 PM

I could see one of them gfbb now with a 20 hp mercury on the back saying, there no certificate needed. How long would it take him to get out of the weirs channel. He probably would not have any problem with headway speed.

Skip · 05-27-2008, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by John A. Birdsall

I could see one of them gfbb now with a 20 hp mercury on the back saying, there no certificate needed. How long would it take him to get out of the weirs channel. He probably would not have any problem with headway speed.

Actually, John, you may have to coin a new acronym....GFBS (go fast be small).

Fralick Boats makes and sells wooden hydroplane boat kits and plans that have models that have exceeded 70+ utilizing only a 25HP motor! And with a sleek low down wooden hull and virtually little metal cross sectional display with the mostly aluminum motor barely above the waterline, the craft is nearly invisible to RF based radar and very hard to target correctly even with LASER/LIDAR units!

What will they think of next....composite home built kits perhaps...

Woodsy · 05-28-2008, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Skip

Actually, John, you may have to coin a new acronym....GFBS (go fast be small).

Fralick Boats makes and sells wooden hydroplane boat kits and plans that have models that have exceeded 70+ utilizing only a 25HP motor! And with a sleek low down wooden hull and virtually little metal cross sectional display with the mostly aluminum motor barely above the waterline, the craft is nearly invisible to RF based radar and very hard to target correctly even with LASER/LIDAR units!

What will they think of next....composite home built kits perhaps...

I really don't see what the fuss is... I called in a few favors over at the ACME US Govt division! I just ordered the prototype ACME Do-It-Yourself Stealth Kit.... it comes complete with top secret composite panels, radar scattering paint (Unfortunately it only comes in one color... olive drab) and a trackbreaker setup off a Prowler....

Wile E. Coyote
Super Genius

Jeff Furber · 06-29-2008, 03:42 PM

We like to fish at Winnie, when we found out about the proctored test, we called Marine Patrol for some clarification. We come from Mass.
Indeed if we had a Mass Power Squadron cert we were in the clear, its also true that under 25 no cert is needed currently.
Since my fishing partner could not locate his MPQ papers we had to bring his smaller boat with the 20hp on it and leave the larger Ranger Boat at home.

While talking to the Marine Patrol, he asked where to send for the materials for the proctored test. They gave him a phone # in Texas, he ordered all of the material for $25, I think . That was almost a month ago.

I approve of boater safety whole heartedly, to me this was not a response by NH Marine Safety people to intiate this test. I am willing to bet that the idea was proposed to them by someone else as a money making venture with a sidebar of safety.
I realize that material can be downloaded of the web, but my fishing partner is one of those who is not enslaved by the world of technology, at least not electronic.

Jeff

searay220 · 06-30-2008, 03:47 PM

I was once told 2 or 3 years ago by a marine patrol rep (you know the guys that give the free saftey inspections at the public docks)that the Mass Coast Gaurd Aux certificate is good in New Hampshire. Is this true or have the rules been changing like the wind?

bigdog · 06-30-2008, 09:26 PM

This in response to 'searay220', asking whether a Mass Coast Guard Auxiliary Certificate meets the N.H. Boating Certificate requirements...

I have such a Cert. granted to me several years back. I had Cert. card laminated in plastic, and carry keep on my boat.

To keep a long story short... Last summer I was stopped by the M.P. for the 150' Rule. Oversight on their part. They were approaching me, and I was headed in different direction. Can you say 'entrapment' ! I guess it was a quiet day for them, and they must have been bored ?

In the exchange of Registration, they asked for my NH Boater's Cert. I indicated I didn't have one, but did have a 'Coast Guard Aux. Cert. and handed it over to them. These two M.P. guys couldn't have been much over 21, and looked at my USCG Cert. like two deers caught in the 'headlights' !Guess they never saw one before ?

They called into the M.P. Hdqts for instructions. Apparantly the Commandant told them my USCG Cert. was sufficient training to meet N.H. regulations. They gave me all my paperwork back, and told me to have a 'good day' !

I'm not sure how the office N.H. Boater's Rulebook explains this, but I'm sure there's verbage in there about Cert's. from other Govt. agencies being reciporical.

05-27-2008, 03:44 PM	#1
John A. Birdsall Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Norwich, CT Posts: 599 Thanks: 27 Thanked 51 Times in 35 Posts	big boat little motor I could see one of them gfbb now with a 20 hp mercury on the back saying, there no certificate needed. How long would it take him to get out of the weirs channel. He probably would not have any problem with headway speed.

06-29-2008, 03:42 PM	#4
Jeff Furber Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Hopkinton, Mass Posts: 34 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Boating Cert We like to fish at Winnie, when we found out about the proctored test, we called Marine Patrol for some clarification. We come from Mass. Indeed if we had a Mass Power Squadron cert we were in the clear, its also true that under 25 no cert is needed currently. Since my fishing partner could not locate his MPQ papers we had to bring his smaller boat with the 20hp on it and leave the larger Ranger Boat at home. While talking to the Marine Patrol, he asked where to send for the materials for the proctored test. They gave him a phone # in Texas, he ordered all of the material for $25, I think . That was almost a month ago. I approve of boater safety whole heartedly, to me this was not a response by NH Marine Safety people to intiate this test. I am willing to bet that the idea was proposed to them by someone else as a money making venture with a sidebar of safety. I realize that material can be downloaded of the web, but my fishing partner is one of those who is not enslaved by the world of technology, at least not electronic. Jeff

06-30-2008, 03:47 PM	#5
searay220 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Reading Ma/ Alton NH Posts: 81 Thanks: 1 Thanked 5 Times in 3 Posts	Boating Cert Question I was once told 2 or 3 years ago by a marine patrol rep (you know the guys that give the free saftey inspections at the public docks)that the Mass Coast Gaurd Aux certificate is good in New Hampshire. Is this true or have the rules been changing like the wind?

06-30-2008, 09:26 PM	#6
bigdog Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Central MA-Gilford Posts: 1,447 Thanks: 342 Thanked 119 Times in 96 Posts	Boating Cert Question This in response to 'searay220', asking whether a Mass Coast Guard Auxiliary Certificate meets the N.H. Boating Certificate requirements... I have such a Cert. granted to me several years back. I had Cert. card laminated in plastic, and carry keep on my boat. To keep a long story short... Last summer I was stopped by the M.P. for the 150' Rule. Oversight on their part. They were approaching me, and I was headed in different direction. Can you say 'entrapment' ! I guess it was a quiet day for them, and they must have been bored ? In the exchange of Registration, they asked for my NH Boater's Cert. I indicated I didn't have one, but did have a 'Coast Guard Aux. Cert. and handed it over to them. These two M.P. guys couldn't have been much over 21, and looked at my USCG Cert. like two deers caught in the 'headlights' !Guess they never saw one before ? They called into the M.P. Hdqts for instructions. Apparantly the Commandant told them my USCG Cert. was sufficient training to meet N.H. regulations. They gave me all my paperwork back, and told me to have a 'good day' ! I'm not sure how the office N.H. Boater's Rulebook explains this, but I'm sure there's verbage in there about Cert's. from other Govt. agencies being reciporical.