Illegal kayaking...say it ain't so!

[Evenstar]

And the kayak bashing and insults continues. And you guys wonder why there are so few non-powerboat owners on this forum. Apparently that's they way you want it, because you seem to be working really hard to keep it that way.

Of course that's because you don't have any tollerance for anyone with a different point of view from you. Whenever anyone member here doesn't fall into your group mentality - you guys just gang up on them until they dissappear. You guys are pathetic. When there are no more paddlers left here to bash, then what will you do for fun? I'm sure if you all put your minds together, you'll be able to come up with another minority group to insult.

[brk-lnt]

Originally Posted by Evenstar

When there are no more paddlers left here to bash, then what will you do for fun? I'm sure if you all put your minds together, you'll be able to come up with another minority group to insult.

Nah, we'll just rehash all the old paddler-bashing threads. Every 2nd post will start with "Remember the time when...".


Evenstar, seriously, lighten up. I really have nothing against you or paddlers in general, but you just feed the flames here. Tell ya what, meet me over at "Club Baby Seal" sometime and I'll buy you a smoothie and we'll get to know each other a little better. You know what they say, ANY girl looks like a keeper at 1AM after 6 smoothies and a shot of flaxseed oil.

[Turtle Boy]

Originally Posted by Evenstar

And the kayak bashing and insults continues. And you guys wonder why there are so few non-powerboat owners on this forum. Apparently that's they way you want it, because you seem to be working really hard to keep it that way.

Of course that's because you don't have any tollerance for anyone with a different point of view from you. Whenever anyone member here doesn't fall into your group mentality - you guys just gang up on them until they dissappear. You guys are pathetic. When there are no more paddlers left here to bash, then what will you do for fun? I'm sure if you all put your minds together, you'll be able to come up with another minority group to insult.

Hey Evenstar...I've often wondered what a forum in N. Korea is like ....you're free to post anything so long as it's "we are proud to honor the great leader comrade Kim Jong-il with our loyalty". This is what we're up against on a forum like this; hang in there. As Islander alluded to earlier, they're a little sore over their recent loss. Quite understandable.

[brk-lnt]

Originally Posted by Turtle Boy

Hey Evenstar...I've often wondered what a forum in N. Korea is like ....you're free to post anything so long as it's "we are proud to honor the great leader comrade Kim Jong-il with our loyalty". This is what we're up against on a forum like this; hang in there. As Islander alluded to earlier, they're a little sore over their recent loss. Quite understandable.

Loss? Loss of what? The speed limit debate was interesting, but it will have no recognizable impact on 95% of the anti-HB847 crowd. I highly doubt that anyone is trying to take out their anger over this "loss" on any of the supporters here.

Responding to your silly posts here is like going fishing at a stocked salmon farm. It's not all that difficult, and you're practically guaranteed an easy win. In the end, it's not really rewarding, it's just a fun way to pass the time.

[hazelnut]

Highly entertaining folks.

Most importantly the posts that claim bashing against kayakers. HILARIOUS. As if Kayakers have become a new minority group. : laugh:

I guess just because I kayaked today for a few hours I should be angry at this thread.

No worries my skin is thicker than tissue paper.

P.S. I usually paddle away from loon nests.

[Islander]

Originally Posted by brk-lnt

Loss? Loss of what? The speed limit debate was interesting, but it will have no recognizable impact on 95% of the anti-HB847 crowd. I highly doubt that anyone is trying to take out their anger over this "loss" on any of the supporters here.

Responding to your silly posts here is like going fishing at a stocked salmon farm. It's not all that difficult, and you're practically guaranteed an easy win. In the end, it's not really rewarding, it's just a fun way to pass the time.

YA Right!

None of you care that it passed!

It doesn't make any difference!

Is that why it is still the number one topic on the forum? Is that why people are lining up to bash kayaks?

Is this the denial phase? Are are we already into anger?

The Five Stages
1. Denial
2. Anger
3. Bargaining
4. Depression
5. Acceptance

[Sman]

man this is tough, so if I have a kayak and a boat that goes faster than 45 ( neither one too fancy) reading this I don't know which side I am on...sometimes I want to go 60 mph and sometimes I want to go for a paddle in the Kayak...what do I do, I need to pick a side...

actually no I don't, are people really THAT offended by the humor or attempt there of humor in this thread. And how bad can life really be if we have time during our day to read and post about boating?

hope it stops raining so we can all get back in our toys and on the lake

[Turtle Boy]

Originally Posted by Sman

man this is tough, so if I have a kayak and a boat that goes faster than 45 ( neither one too fancy) reading this I don't know which side I am on...sometimes I want to go 60 mph and sometimes I want to go for a paddle in the Kayak...what do I do, I need to pick a side...

actually no I don't, are people really THAT offended by the humor or attempt there of humor in this thread. And how bad can life really be if we have time during our day to read and post about boating?

hope it stops raining so we can all get back in our toys and on the lake

That's it Sman....a new sport to bring these 2 very disparate groups together...we'll call it kayak tubing. Evenstar can contribute a kayak, VtSteve a GFBL (whoops, performance) boat, and we tow the kayak around at 65MPH(this year only, next year 45 MPH). My grandson loves tubing...bet he'll really love GFBL kayaking (sorry again, performance kayaking). Common ground at last. Kumbayah.

[Orion]

Originally Posted by Turtle Boy

That's it Sman....a new sport to bring these 2 very disparate groups together...we'll call it kayak tubing.

No need. At the Lakeshore Living Expo, one of the local marinas exhibiting had those jet-powered kayaks, shown in a prior thread, for sale. You can scratch every itch with just one boat.

[Mashugana]

Originally Posted by Sman

man this is tough, so if I have a kayak and a boat that goes faster than 45 ( neither one too fancy) reading this I don't know which side I am on...sometimes I want to go 60 mph and sometimes I want to go for a paddle in the Kayak...what do I do, I need to pick a side...

You should probably pick the Kayak side Sman. Be sure to paint a florescent target on your paddling suit so we can see you. You know how it is to go faster than ones ability to see.

Don't even get me started about PWCs. Those wake jumping lake bugs buzzing all over the place. They are a menace. Some areas and lakes already ban them.

I hear that Kayakers love water. Maybe they should try something like beer, wine, Prozac or something else (to be blunt) to mellow out.

Sman, we like you but you are now one of THEM! No offense.

Intolerance is a terrible thing to tolerate

[brk-lnt]

Originally Posted by Islander

YA Right!

None of you care that it passed!

It doesn't make any difference!

You and Twaddle Boy are the first ones to drag the speed limits into yet another thread. Seriously, find a new drum to beat, you've played that one to death.

[Turtle Boy]

Originally Posted by brk-lnt

You and Twaddle Boy are the first ones to drag the speed limits into yet another thread. Seriously, find a new drum to beat, you've played that one to death.

Actually it was VtSteve who dragged speed into this thread on 7/17. Lighten up...maybe you ought to switch to decaf. In fact I worry that a few of the GFBL posters could blow a cerebral aneurism while typing their posts. Take a quiet paddle on the lake, come back and eat some granola, and then try to meditate.....Oooohhhhhmmmm.

[B R]

Originally Posted by Islander

None of you care that it passed!

It doesn't make any difference!

Is this you acting like an adult and being a gracious winner? Please....

The only question I have is are you going to lie on your back kicking and screaming when all these big bad GF boats don't leave your lake because of the silly speed limit? Or are you going to hold your breath until they all go away?

[SIKSUKR]

Originally Posted by Evenstar

Of course that's because you don't have any tollerance for anyone with a different point of view from you.You guys are pathetic.

Now THAT'S funny.Have you read your own posts like the one above?You are BY FAR the most intollerant member on this board.

Originally Posted by Evenstar

I'm sure if you all put your minds together, you'll be able to come up with another minority group to insult.

I think the Anti-Defamation League should be notified immediately!There should be another law for this.

[Evenstar]

Originally Posted by hazelnut

Most importantly the posts that claim bashing against kayakers. HILARIOUS. As if Kayakers have become a new minority group.

Kayakers ARE very much a minority group – in this forum.

No worries my skin is thicker than tissue paper.

And you’re not the one that many of the insulting comments here are being directed at.

Originally Posted by SIKSUKR

Now THAT'S funny.Have you read your own posts like the one above? You are BY FAR the most intollerant member on this board.

I admit that I have little tolerance toward intolerance – but that does not make me an intolerant person. I support diversity – but that does not mean that I support bigotry or hate crimes.

“We must be vigilant against discrimination and show no tolerance for intolerance.” - opening statement by the OSCE Chairman-in-Office, Dr Dimitrij Rupel, at the OSCE Conference on Anti-Semitism and on Other Forms of Intolerance Cordoba, 8 June 2005 [/i]

"I swore never to be silent whenever and wherever human beings endure suffering and humiliation. We must always take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented." Elie Wiesel

“Prejudices are what fools use for reason." Voltaire

[SAMIAM]

I thought this thread was hilarious.......Evenstar was the only one who took it serious and was offended.Anyone with any common sense could see that it was all a spoof and joined in the fun.There are many kayakers in this forum but they didn't chime in because they knew it was all in fun....He used words like "ridicule and "humiliation"........guess he's just one of those people who looks for ways to be offended.

[brk-lnt]

Originally Posted by SAMIAM

I thought this thread was hilarious.......Evenstar was the only one who took it serious and was offended.Anyone with any common sense could see that it was all a spoof and joined in the fun.There are many kayakers in this forum but they didn't chime in because they knew it was all in fun....He used words like "ridicule and "humiliation"........guess he's just one of those people who looks for ways to be offended.

Some people are just forever the victim.


I KNOW MY RIGHTS! YOU WILL NOT OPPRESS ME!


I'd be willing to bet 2 things:
1) Evenstar is single
2) Now, or at some point in her life, she has owned a soapbox.

[robmac]

be carefull Samiam,he's a she that could be considered by her as more bashing

[VtSteve]

Geez Tboy. First off, I don;t own a GFBL boat. Not that fast, and it's pretty quiet.

Second, How did I drag the dreaded topic into this thread? I was having fun like everyone else, save for at least four of you. I'm beginning to think that someone's been pi$$ing in your wheaties in the morning.

"This is the kind of mindless, senseless, arrogant act I've come to expect from the pardy not at all paddling crowd. Harassing birds, probably disturbing turtles, all in the name of self-serving interests.

That poor bird looks absolutely terrified in that picture, as anyone would be had their 150' space been violated. I'll bet the poor bird had to endure many minutes of fright as the kayak headed straight for her, probably not even aware of the impending encroachment. The kayaker could have slowed down, but it's not their nature, never has been. The kayaker is probably coming back from the local quick stop, with the day's beer supply.

Loons have rights too! "

[Dave R]

If we "show no tolerance for intolerance", does that not, in fact, make us intolerant? How can we possibly tolerate intolerance of intolerance? I don't think I can. I don't think I want to, even if I could. Gosh, imagine everything being entirely unlike that!

I have to take 8 hours of diversity training every year and the one thing that's always conspicuously missing from the training is the recommendation of being tolerant of the insensitivity of others. I think that's intolerable.

[brk-lnt]

I'm confused now. Are we supposed to be tolerant of the intolerant? Or have intoleration for tolerance expressed in excessive levels?

And of course the most important question that applies to all aspects of forum threads here, how does HB847 support affect our intolerant tolerance?


Personally, I like to think of myself as unbiased and unprejudiced (as well as debonair and handsome)... I oppress no minority group, as I hate everyone equally.

[Orion]

Well, here goes another thread I won't have to continue reading. Sad.

[Cal]

This is getting good

[Seaplane Pilot]

Originally Posted by Cal

This is getting good

You provide the popcorn, I'll provide the keg. You can't pay for entertainment this good! Who cares about the speed limit, this is way more fun.

I'll even supply a case of Poland Springs for those kayakers that.....
"Love Water".

[brk-lnt]

Originally Posted by Seaplane Pilot

I'll even supply a case of Poland Springs for those kayakers that.....
"Love Water".

Throw that case of Poland Springs in a kiddie pool and you'll have created an instant Kayaker Safe Haven Paddle Paradise (c) (tm) (r) (patent pending). Put it on the back of a flatbed truck and you have an instant business:
"Bring the Lakes Region to your door! Portable Paddle Paradise!"

Of course, you'll have to make sure the toddlers stay at least 150' away from the pool, lest someone get all encroached on.

[robmac]

This is the funniest thread in a long time,BRAVO

[Evenstar]

Originally Posted by Cal

This is getting good

Originally Posted by Seaplane Pilot

You provide the popcorn, I'll provide the keg. You can't pay for entertainment this good! Who cares about the speed limit, this is way more fun.

So your idea of entertainment is group bashing - which is basically the same the thing as gang mentality. You guys really need to get a life, or at least take a good look at your priorities.

It was bad enough that you resorted to personal attacks when you couldn't out debate me in the Speed Limit Forum - but now you've stooped even lower, but bringing the same personal attacks into the Boating Forum.

Just because I supported the speed limit bill and testified at the House Transportation Committee Hearing, doesn't give you the right to target me and harass me in a public forum. This is out right hate - and it is approaching libel.

I would really like to know how this thread is beneficial in any way to the boaters on Winni or to the members of this forum - other than the few sickos here who get their kicks out making fun of other people and enjoy insulting an entire boating group.

You guys lost - get over it!!!

I'm totally amazed that our Webmaster has let this continue this long. Posts in this thread have broken nearly every single rule listed in this forum's FAQ.

[brk-lnt]

Originally Posted by Evenstar

Posts in this thread have broken nearly every single rule listed in this forum's FAQ.

Please point out the ones we missed, maybe we can get them all covered to your full satisfaction.

[Seaplane Pilot]

Originally Posted by Evenstar

Just because I supported the speed limit bill and testified at the House Transportation Committee Hearing, doesn't give you the right to target me and harass me in a public forum. This is out right hate -and it is approaching libel.

Evenstar, do you have any idea how rediculous you sound? Libel? I guess I better get my lawyer on the phone, pronto. Good thing he likes popcorn and Heineken too!

[kthy66]

Im so sorry for those that are offended but this is the funniest material I have ever read on this forum... Thanks for the laughs!
(BTW Ive also come to the conclusion that you all need professional help...)

[Sman]

Step a way from a thread for a few hrs and you miss a lot. LOL funny stuff Mashugana,

my indecision is no more. What I did not understand previous is that Kayakers like water and the "other side" likes beer.

thats black and white stuff right there.

So contrary to an earlier post you CAN learn from this thread

I will be listing my kayak on the classifed section right away and swapping my 350 for a big block, got to go, lots of stuff to do, busy busy busy

with the sun out now this thread will likely be done

[Evenstar]

Originally Posted by Seaplane Pilot

Evenstar, do you have any idea how rediculous you sound? Libel? I guess I better get my lawyer on the phone, pronto.

Originally Posted by codeman671

Just sue and get it over with... There was an ambulance chasing lawyer sounding troll on here a while ago, maybe you can hook up.
Seriously, complaining about hatred and libel on here makes you sound absolutely ridiculous. Give it a rest.

This is an example of what you do when you are unable to debate my points - you make personal attacks.

I made the statement that "It was bad enough that you resorted to personal attacks when you couldn't out debate me in the Speed Limit Forum - but now you've stooped even lower, but bringing the same personal attacks into the Boating Forum."

And this is exactly what you have done. Since you are unable to debate that fact, you attack me instead - by accusing me of being ridiculous.

It is also a fact that I'm being targeted in this forum because I have been one of the more vocal supporters of the speed limit bill.

It is also a fact that some of the posts are nothing but hateful attacks on me - they serve no other purpose.

And I stated that "it is approaching libel," which is just my observation that some members have come really close to libel - I did not threaten to sue anyone. But it was meant as a warning.

It is a fact that I have been targeted and harassed in this forum - yet I'm the one being told to "give it a rest." If other members had not directed negative comments at me, I would have posted in this thread. I do have the right to stand up for myself here.

It is also a fact that "posts in this thread have broken nearly every single rule listed in this forum's FAQ." Instead of accusing me of making "absolutely ridiculous" statements, why don't you read the FAQ - then you would be able to see that I am correct.

And no one has bothered to answer me on this: "I would really like to know how this thread is beneficial in any way to the boaters on Winni or to the members of this forum."

Again, the tactics of many on this forum, whenever they are out debated is to resort to personal attacks. Personal attacks are not permitted in debates - and personal attacks are not (supposed to be) permitted on this forum.

[chipj29]

http://www.ehow.com/how_2040840_sue-...net-libel.html
Just in case you need it...

[Evenstar]

Originally Posted by chipj29

http://www.ehow.com/how_2040840_sue-...net-libel.html
Just in case you need it...

Thanks, but I have a degree in Paralegal Studies and one of my current majors is Legal Studies - so I already know how to go about filing a libel suit.

Originally Posted by Alton Bay Bob

If you believe (as I do) that laughter is beneficial to folks...then this thread is very beneficial. It truly is the funniest darn thread I have read in a long time. As a kayaker and a boat owner whose boat can barely get to 45 mph yet one who is not bothered by people going faster.. I have no feelings about speed limits. I have enjoyed the wit of many of the posters. If eveyone laughed a little more and complained a little less .....

Making fun of people in hateful ways is not something that I rate as funny or beneficial. It's one thing to laugh with someone - it is another to laugh at someone. So, you seem to be saying that it's ok for members of this forum to gang up on an individual or on a minority group and it's ok to make insulting comments about them - but it is wrong for me to complain about the personal attacks.

Originally Posted by brk-lnt

You haven't bothered to answer MY question about which rules we need to break to get a perfect score in forum violations.

I saw your comment as an insult to the authority of our webmaster and not to me, so It's up to him to deal with that one.

Evenstar (I'm beginning to see irony in your username here that implies some sort of balance), this is a satirical humorous thread. Trying to take it off topic by making it all about you and/or speed limits is a violation of forum rules, and an affront to forum posters everywhere.

My name is Arwen, my middle name is Eve, which is short for Evenstar(if you don't understand the connection, try a goggle search). This thread included posts that were specifically directed at me and at comments that I had made in the speed limit thread - way before I even made my first post here. So don't blame me for what others did. Others here made personal attacks on me first - dragging me into the thread.

90% of what has been posted in this thread has nothing at all to do with boating - so there is no real topic here.

[brk-lnt]

Originally Posted by Evenstar

I saw your comment as an insult to the authority of our webmaster and not to me, so It's up to him to deal with that one.

Oh, sorry for the confusion. It was directed at you.

In the future, if someone quotes some or all of one your posts, and then offers a counter-point, clarification, question, etc., you can usually assume the comment is directed at you, and not some 3rd party. This would be especially true if that 3rd party hadn't participated in any part of the conversation.

Glad I could clear that up for you. If there are any other things that you don't understand, or are not sure about, let me know and I'll try to help (other than your sense of humor, that would take too much effort).

[Alton Bay Bob]

And no one has bothered to answer me on this: "I would really like to know how this thread is beneficial in any way to the boaters on Winni or to the members of this forum."


If you believe (as I do) that laughter is beneficial to folks...then this thread is very beneficial. It truly is the funniest darn thread I have read in a long time. As a kayaker and a boat owner whose boat can barely get to 45 mph yet one who is not bothered by people going faster.. I have no feelings about speed limits. I have enjoyed the wit of many of the posters.

If eveyone laughed a little more and complained a little less .....

[brk-lnt]

Originally Posted by Evenstar

And no one has bothered to answer me on this: "I would really like to know how this thread is beneficial in any way to the boaters on Winni or to the members of this forum."

You haven't bothered to answer MY question about which rules we need to break to get a perfect score in forum violations.

Evenstar (I'm beginning to see irony in your username here that implies some sort of balance), this is a satirical humorous thread. Trying to take it off topic by making it all about you and/or speed limits is a violation of forum rules, and an affront to forum posters everywhere.

Please stop your attempts to hijack this thread, or we will be forced to report you to the authorities.

[codeman671]

Originally Posted by Evenstar

So your idea of entertainment is group bashing - which is basically the same the thing as gang mentality. You guys really need to get a life, or at least take a good look at your priorities.

It was bad enough that you resorted to personal attacks when you couldn't out debate me in the Speed Limit Forum - but now you've stooped even lower, but bringing the same personal attacks into the Boating Forum.

Just because I supported the speed limit bill and testified at the House Transportation Committee Hearing, doesn't give you the right to target me and harass me in a public forum. This is out right hate - and it is approaching libel.

I would really like to know how this thread is beneficial in any way to the boaters on Winni or to the members of this forum - other than the few sickos here who get their kicks out making fun of other people and enjoy insulting an entire boating group.

You guys lost - get over it!!!

I'm totally amazed that our Webmaster has let this continue this long. Posts in this thread have broken nearly every single rule listed in this forum's FAQ.

Just sue and get it over with... There was an ambulance chasing lawyer sounding troll on here a while ago, maybe you can hook up.

Seriously, complaining about hatred and libel on here makes you sound absolutely ridiculous. Give it a rest.

[Cal]

Originally Posted by Seaplane Pilot

You provide the popcorn, I'll provide the keg. You can't pay for entertainment this good! Who cares about the speed limit, this is way more fun.

I'll even supply a case of Poland Springs for those kayakers that.....
"Love Water".

I prefer Captain and Coke but for this , suds will do

[Evenstar]

Originally Posted by SAMIAM

I thought this thread was hilarious.......Evenstar was the only one who took it serious and was offended.........guess he's just one of those people who looks for ways to be offended.

As I pointed out to you already, I'm a she.

Yes, I'm just looking for ways to be offended. That's why I forced some of the people here to target me - before I even posted a reply in this thread. There's a line between humor and insult - many in this thread have crossed that line.

[alsadad]

Originally Posted by Evenstar

Of course that's because you don't have any tollerance for anyone with a different point of view from you.

I think I remember coming to the Lake when the toll was 1 token (12.5 cents). Then they hiked it to 2 tokens and then again to 3 tokens. Then they stopped taking tokens so we had to pay the toll of 75 cents in real, honest-to-goodness American money. Now the toll is $1. When I pay the toll does that make me in-toll-erant? Or am I ex-toll-erant, dis-toll-erant, mis-toll-erant, un-toll-erant, bi-toll-erant (for the round trip, so to speak), or just plain annoyed?

[SAMIAM]

Wonder if Evenstar noticed that she was the only kayaker to get a case of the arse over a little humor......glad I'm not married to her.

[no-engine]

Originally Posted by alsadad

I think I remember coming to the Lake when the toll was 1 token (12.5 cents). Then they hiked it to 2 tokens and then again to 3 tokens. Then they stopped taking tokens so we had to pay the toll of 75 cents in real, honest-to-goodness American money. Now the toll is $1. When I pay the toll does that make me in-toll-erant? Or am I ex-toll-erant, dis-toll-erant, mis-toll-erant, un-toll-erant, bi-toll-erant (for the round trip, so to speak), or just plain annoyed?

If you sign up for EZPass with NH DOT, you get discount, on all NH tolls!
AND the transponder is accepted at all other EZ pass locations or fast-lane in MA.
Toll collections in NJ, DE, MD and others can be transited at the speed limits of 55 or 65; DE give 10% discount for all electronic collections.
NOW that's good engineering.

This thread reads as if there's bunch of regrets among motorized craft, who must pay so much for their fuel! Fuel to sail or paddle is same fuel I use 365/24/7, available at routine grocery stores or one's garden!

Chatted with acquaintance last night who lives on Moultonboro Neck on waterfront, and observes the motors are fewer and at slower speeds, PLUS they seem to have respect for others on Lake which has not existed on the Lake for many years.