Timber Island residents just rude

Sschaar · 09-09-2004, 09:11 AM

Samiam don't confuse me with Siksukr's or Belmont Resident or anybody else.
The world owes me nothing. As a matter of fact I think I owe the world for the chance to be part of it. I really don't care if you or anybody else own an island or a piece of property on the lake. No pun intended, if that's what floats your boat your entitled. In my view I could think of better ways of spending my money. But then again that's my choice. All I know is that I can take my boat, launch it, and park it right in front of your window and legally there is nothing you can do about it. Just by the simple fact that it gets you aggravated makes me happy because you still don't get it. It's been explained over and over. NOBODY CARES THAT YOU OWN PROPERTY.
As far as I'm concerned your house and your dock, and your beach chair are ruining my view from my boat.
I will always anchor my boat anywhere I legally can and I'm never going to change. If you try to intimadate me into leaving, I'll stay longer. If you use rude language, I'll laugh at you and show up the next day with my buddy and his boat. Get used to it. Maybe one day you'll get smart and chill, na that makes to much sense.

cabinfever · 09-09-2004, 10:10 AM

SamIam was referring to and quoted sschaar versus siksur.

SAMIAM · 09-09-2004, 11:40 AM

Sschaar.......When you say that it makes you happy to aggravate property owners,I guess that says it all.I've never suggested that it was ok to intimadate or be rude to people who are rafting.I'm just having trouble understanding why you would not try to respect peoples privacy when they are trying to enjoy themselves in their own yard.As far as I'm concerned this rafting subject has never been about who owns what,but about showing courtesy to others just as you would in your own yard.Imagine having a quiet cookout with your family and a large group of people are partying,drinking getting rowdy, and playing loud music right next to you.

Sschaar · 09-09-2004, 01:05 PM

I can't contol what happens off my property. Only that it is within the confines of the law. When I decided to purchase my house I took into consideration schools, access to stores, taxes, and yes my neighbors. I figured that if I have to invest my money, I'd want to hedge my bet as much as possible that I could live in relative peace and quiet. Yes my neigbors have a party from time to time. It's never a problem. But I never have any guarantees. I guess if it got out of hand I could call the cops, but I have never had to. Also there are laws as to how loud you can be and how late you can go just like there is on on the lake.
Now that is something you obviously didn't do. You bought land attached to a very public lake. I guess maybe you didn't consider what that would mean.
Look, I'm not unreasonable about anything, but to think I'm not going to go close Timber Island or any Island for that matter just cause it's privately held you got another thing coming. I'm really not interested in hanging out near anybody's dock or anybody's window, but don't come off like it's your god given right to have that space for yourself. Cause your not. If I or anybody chose to do it, although it may be rude in your opinion, it might not be in someone else's. And there is nothing in the law that says they can't.
So really it comes down to the kindness of boaters like Belmont and myself to give you the space you so desire. So it's in your best interest to be nice to us. Maybe offer cold drinks and feed us grapes in the hot sun.

Rattlesnake Gal · 09-09-2004, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Sschaar

So it's in your best interest to be nice to us. Maybe offer cold drinks and feed us grapes in the hot sun.

Do you want those grapes with or without black widow spiders? (Sorry, couldn't resist.)

Outlaw · 09-09-2004, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Rattlesnake Gal

Do you want those grapes with or without black widow spiders? (Sorry, couldn't resist.)

I'm

on this one. That was good -- kinda like a rattler, quick, fast and before you know.

cabinfever · 09-09-2004, 01:51 PM

Sschaar, in all seriousness, I'm really interested in your answers to two questions. 1) Is it okay that people are trespassing on land, especially with new, obvious signs posted? 2) For argument's sake, what would you think about a boater who went online and posted a public message with blatant lies in an attempt to discredit waterfront property owners and build resentment?

Sschaar · 09-09-2004, 02:12 PM

I have already admitted to using the tire swing , so for me to say I would never trespass is a bit of a stretch. But as a rule I do believe that when a persons owns something their within there rights to limit access. I suppose if a sign had been posted I probably would have not have done so.
And as far as your second issue, I have no idea if an indivdual is speaking/writing the truth or not. That's true of many situations in life. I usually accept people at their word until I have enough background to form an opinion other then what I'm hearing or reading.
Look whether somebody is spreading false accusations or not, I still am of the opinion the indivduals who own lake front, or islands, feel they are entitled to more then they really are. You have the right to limit access to your property. Nothing more. Those are the same rights that we all have.
Anything over and above that is out of the kindness of other people.
Don't expect anything more, and who know you might be pleasantly surprised.

Belmont Resident · 09-09-2004, 10:27 AM

I would never want to own lake front property. I'm perfectly happy living within short distance of the lake and racking my boat. But I thank all those who do and contibute to the NH school system.
Cabin Fever next time we will take pictures. Your calling me wrong?
Either you were not there in which case the people involved must have been other residents of the island or it was you and you do not want others to know of what happened.
The woman had long brown hair wearing shorts and a white tee shirt, the guy had very short hair also brown looked under 6' tall from where I was also wearing a matching tee shirt they were accompanied by a black lab.
So maybe it wasn't you folks that were involved but someone else, my post never said it was you folks but someone who claimed to be residents of the island you took it as being directed at you.
As for the boats anchored on Saturday, none were close to the beach.
If they were 30 feet off then I'd be surprised but I think it was more like 40'.
And if you read my earlier post I also said that if those were boaters anchoring in front of the dock facing Welch island then they should not be there. I would never anchor in front of someones dock or right in front of their house, that is rude. I'm assuming that is where you own? If not then the people who walked around the island could very well have been one of the other property owners.

cabinfever · 09-09-2004, 10:43 AM

I guess I'll be the bigger person here and take the first step at contacting you offline as I suggested. I could blast the merits of your story right out of the water in public for everyone to read. Enough is enough.

Sschaar · 09-09-2004, 11:01 AM

Give it up cabin fever. You have no arguement. You should be happy and hopeful that all boaters are as kind and considerate as Belmont. He and any boater can anchor his/her boat just about anywhere they want, but he/she doesn't. Any neither would I. But I keep on getting the impression here that you want more. It's only due to the kindness of boaters that you'll get the space that you want. You need to come to terms with that. I get the feeling you can't. It's a shame.

cabinfever · 09-09-2004, 11:36 AM

Sschaar, it's obvious this Forum is pure sport for you to create trouble, so it's easy not to give credence to your comments. Glad all of this jazzes you.

madrasahs · 09-09-2004, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Belmont Resident

"I would never want to own lake front property".

Hoo-boy! Is that ever a mouthful.

Look at the arrogant boaters you'd have to put up with -- then!
.

Belmont Resident · 09-09-2004, 10:42 AM

Never once (check past post) have I defended the rights of anyone to trespass on someone else property. All I've ever defended is our right as boaters to use the lake. I would not consider parking my boat right in front of anyone’s home unless invited to do so.
I originally ask about getting permission to go on the island but was greeted with jumping through flaming hoops when all they could have said was no we do not want you on the island.
Yes I am a little negative when it comes to home owners, a lot of us that live up here but do not own on the lake have gotten nothing but arrogant attitude from many of them, most being from out of state. What it all boils down to is they believe when they buy the property they own the water that borders it.
Look what happened down in Alton with the homeowners chipping golf balls and water balloons at boats anchored at the sand bar down there.
That leave a great impression on boaters about land owners attitude right there.

09-09-2004, 10:27 AM	#9
Belmont Resident Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Belmont NH but prefer Jackman Maine Posts: 1,857 Thanks: 491 Thanked 410 Times in 251 Posts	Kona Chick/Cabin fever I would never want to own lake front property. I'm perfectly happy living within short distance of the lake and racking my boat. But I thank all those who do and contibute to the NH school system. Cabin Fever next time we will take pictures. Your calling me wrong? Either you were not there in which case the people involved must have been other residents of the island or it was you and you do not want others to know of what happened. The woman had long brown hair wearing shorts and a white tee shirt, the guy had very short hair also brown looked under 6' tall from where I was also wearing a matching tee shirt they were accompanied by a black lab. So maybe it wasn't you folks that were involved but someone else, my post never said it was you folks but someone who claimed to be residents of the island you took it as being directed at you. As for the boats anchored on Saturday, none were close to the beach. If they were 30 feet off then I'd be surprised but I think it was more like 40'. And if you read my earlier post I also said that if those were boaters anchoring in front of the dock facing Welch island then they should not be there. I would never anchor in front of someones dock or right in front of their house, that is rude. I'm assuming that is where you own? If not then the people who walked around the island could very well have been one of the other property owners.

09-09-2004, 10:42 AM	#14
Belmont Resident Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Belmont NH but prefer Jackman Maine Posts: 1,857 Thanks: 491 Thanked 410 Times in 251 Posts	Samiam Never once (check past post) have I defended the rights of anyone to trespass on someone else property. All I've ever defended is our right as boaters to use the lake. I would not consider parking my boat right in front of anyone’s home unless invited to do so. I originally ask about getting permission to go on the island but was greeted with jumping through flaming hoops when all they could have said was no we do not want you on the island. Yes I am a little negative when it comes to home owners, a lot of us that live up here but do not own on the lake have gotten nothing but arrogant attitude from many of them, most being from out of state. What it all boils down to is they believe when they buy the property they own the water that borders it. Look what happened down in Alton with the homeowners chipping golf balls and water balloons at boats anchored at the sand bar down there. That leave a great impression on boaters about land owners attitude right there.

09-09-2004, 09:11 AM	#1
Sschaar Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 40 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Samiam don't confuse me with Siksukr's or Belmont Resident or anybody else. The world owes me nothing. As a matter of fact I think I owe the world for the chance to be part of it. I really don't care if you or anybody else own an island or a piece of property on the lake. No pun intended, if that's what floats your boat your entitled. In my view I could think of better ways of spending my money. But then again that's my choice. All I know is that I can take my boat, launch it, and park it right in front of your window and legally there is nothing you can do about it. Just by the simple fact that it gets you aggravated makes me happy because you still don't get it. It's been explained over and over. NOBODY CARES THAT YOU OWN PROPERTY. As far as I'm concerned your house and your dock, and your beach chair are ruining my view from my boat. I will always anchor my boat anywhere I legally can and I'm never going to change. If you try to intimadate me into leaving, I'll stay longer. If you use rude language, I'll laugh at you and show up the next day with my buddy and his boat. Get used to it. Maybe one day you'll get smart and chill, na that makes to much sense.

09-09-2004, 10:10 AM	#2
cabinfever Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 35 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	SamIam was referring to and quoted sschaar versus siksur.

09-09-2004, 11:40 AM	#3
SAMIAM Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Moultonborough Posts: 2,897 Thanks: 334 Thanked 1,676 Times in 586 Posts	Sschaar.......When you say that it makes you happy to aggravate property owners,I guess that says it all.I've never suggested that it was ok to intimadate or be rude to people who are rafting.I'm just having trouble understanding why you would not try to respect peoples privacy when they are trying to enjoy themselves in their own yard.As far as I'm concerned this rafting subject has never been about who owns what,but about showing courtesy to others just as you would in your own yard.Imagine having a quiet cookout with your family and a large group of people are partying,drinking getting rowdy, and playing loud music right next to you.

09-09-2004, 01:05 PM	#4
Sschaar Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 40 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I can't contol what happens off my property. Only that it is within the confines of the law. When I decided to purchase my house I took into consideration schools, access to stores, taxes, and yes my neighbors. I figured that if I have to invest my money, I'd want to hedge my bet as much as possible that I could live in relative peace and quiet. Yes my neigbors have a party from time to time. It's never a problem. But I never have any guarantees. I guess if it got out of hand I could call the cops, but I have never had to. Also there are laws as to how loud you can be and how late you can go just like there is on on the lake. Now that is something you obviously didn't do. You bought land attached to a very public lake. I guess maybe you didn't consider what that would mean. Look, I'm not unreasonable about anything, but to think I'm not going to go close Timber Island or any Island for that matter just cause it's privately held you got another thing coming. I'm really not interested in hanging out near anybody's dock or anybody's window, but don't come off like it's your god given right to have that space for yourself. Cause your not. If I or anybody chose to do it, although it may be rude in your opinion, it might not be in someone else's. And there is nothing in the law that says they can't. So really it comes down to the kindness of boaters like Belmont and myself to give you the space you so desire. So it's in your best interest to be nice to us. Maybe offer cold drinks and feed us grapes in the hot sun.

09-09-2004, 01:51 PM	#7
cabinfever Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 35 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Sschaar, in all seriousness, I'm really interested in your answers to two questions. 1) Is it okay that people are trespassing on land, especially with new, obvious signs posted? 2) For argument's sake, what would you think about a boater who went online and posted a public message with blatant lies in an attempt to discredit waterfront property owners and build resentment?

09-09-2004, 02:12 PM	#8
Sschaar Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 40 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I have already admitted to using the tire swing , so for me to say I would never trespass is a bit of a stretch. But as a rule I do believe that when a persons owns something their within there rights to limit access. I suppose if a sign had been posted I probably would have not have done so. And as far as your second issue, I have no idea if an indivdual is speaking/writing the truth or not. That's true of many situations in life. I usually accept people at their word until I have enough background to form an opinion other then what I'm hearing or reading. Look whether somebody is spreading false accusations or not, I still am of the opinion the indivduals who own lake front, or islands, feel they are entitled to more then they really are. You have the right to limit access to your property. Nothing more. Those are the same rights that we all have. Anything over and above that is out of the kindness of other people. Don't expect anything more, and who know you might be pleasantly surprised.

09-09-2004, 10:43 AM	#10
cabinfever Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 35 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I guess I'll be the bigger person here and take the first step at contacting you offline as I suggested. I could blast the merits of your story right out of the water in public for everyone to read. Enough is enough.

09-09-2004, 11:01 AM	#11
Sschaar Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 40 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Give it up cabin fever. You have no arguement. You should be happy and hopeful that all boaters are as kind and considerate as Belmont. He and any boater can anchor his/her boat just about anywhere they want, but he/she doesn't. Any neither would I. But I keep on getting the impression here that you want more. It's only due to the kindness of boaters that you'll get the space that you want. You need to come to terms with that. I get the feeling you can't. It's a shame.

09-09-2004, 11:36 AM	#12
cabinfever Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 35 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Sschaar, it's obvious this Forum is pure sport for you to create trouble, so it's easy not to give credence to your comments. Glad all of this jazzes you.