Boat noise laws thrown out?

[DoftheMattysort]

Will, who ever you are, you hit the nail on the head. If you don't like it, go somewhere else. Leave the broads to us who don't mind spending money and are not to cheap to spend $300 a weekend on gas.

[madrasahs]

Originally Posted by Taupe Thunder

"BTW, the citizens' action against disruptive boaters on Sebago Lake is called [/I]"Lakes Region Safe Boating Assocation"."

The group that I referred to is the Sebago Water Safety Watch. Some of their info is available at this link:

http://www.fryeisland.com/watch/index.htm

I read now that the Sebago Water Safety Watch is very concerned about the plummeting quality of recreational boating on Sebago Lake. (A large, pure-water, lake).

Here's the one I was referencing: http://www.lrsla.org/ (Also Sebago Lake).

They've been archiving videotapes of "disruptive boaters", and guess what? Biggus is featured in their videotapes!

Their website opens with:

SAFE Boating / QUIET Lakes

"LRSLA supports Safe Boating and Quiet Lakes on our regions surface waters. Our local waters have been heavily impacted by high performance boats. Regulation enforcement has not been maintained at a level commensurate to the need.

"DUI operation has increased as well as extensive violations of no wake zones, slow speed zones and shore safety zones.

"Through education, safe boating and quiet lakes advocacy and funding of enforcement activities LRSLA is working to make surface water recreation on our regions surface waters an enjoyable, safe, high quality, experience."

[Will]

Biggus, look what happened! You were attacked, whats amatter with you anyways? You think the lake is just a place to go have fun and enjoy the weekend on your boat that YOU paid for? Come on we cant do that, well that is unless you have a sailboat........

[Rob]

Originally Posted by madrasahs

They've been archiving videotapes of "disruptive boaters", and guess what?

Umm, I give up, what?

Originally Posted by madrasahs

Biggus is featured in their videotapes!

Ohmigosh! Not Biggus!

Quickly, I rushed to click on the link provided (I have been wanting to see the new drives), only to see this:


Dear website visitor:
We have temporarily removed the boat noise videos from our website so as to more clearly emphasize LRSLA's broad mission.


This was less than an hour after the link to these videos of alleged 'disruptive boater' activity was posted.

Too bad. I did want to see the Konrads.

It is possible that the server was not able to handle all the requests (from people who wanted to see the new outdrives ), so the webmaster disabled it until they could get set up for more bandwidth. I imagine that won't take long, as I hear that this particular website is very well funded by a private individual.

Or perhaps the webmaster was threatened with some sort of legal action, as this type of behavior (posting videos of people you don't like) seems to border on harassment/stalking if you ask me.

BTW, Biggus was the first person in this area to test a special new, high-performace outdrive from Konrad Marine. The Mercury TRS outdrives have a well-known tendency to self destruct under high loads. In addition to being stronger, the Konrad outdrives have less drag, resulting in lower fuel consumption. Since broken outdrives contribute to the waste stream, not to mention the possibility of a damaged outdrive leaking oil into our lakes, we should applaud Biggus (and Konrad) for making the significant financial investment in a better quality, environmentally friendly product.

www.konradmarine.com


Rob

[Rattlesnake Gal]

Biggus, can you post a photo for us to see your big bad boat?

[Will]

Rob have to agree with you, I tried the same thing, its almost as though someone thou stickest there footus in their mouthus............? hmmm, kinda interesting.

[madrasahs]

Originally Posted by Will

"Rob have to agree with you, I tried the same thing, its almost as though someone thou stickest there footus in their mouthus............? hmmm, kinda interesting."

Originally Posted by Rob

"It is possible that the server was not able to handle all the requests (from people who wanted to see the new outdrives), so the webmaster disabled it until they could get set up for more bandwidth."

"(from people who wanted to see the new outdrives,")," huh? R-i-g-h-t.

The cost of the bandwidth is the problem. The video was disabled even before I posted the URL. (I didn't state you could view it, just that Biggus was featured.)

Thousands of Big Boaters, including Biggus, Cal, (and maybe Rob and Will - naaah - not Will) from all over the country know why the video is disabled. "The call" went out to overload the server, driving up the cost for Sebago's www.lrslr.com from the Big Boat sites, (www.fastboat.com, www.vdrive.com, etc) hence, no video at www.lrslr.com today.

Remember the "Accident on the Broads" thread? Five thousand, six hundred (5,600) views, from guess who? Not "us-folks", I'm sorry to say.

Google other "performance" sites yourself. Caution! Some sites are definitely not family-friendly, and promote risk-taking behavior in boating and um... other things never viewed at www.winnipesaukee.com.

Big Boaters don't just want to disturb lake residents with their "thunder" (what we hear as noise), they perceive their power to extend to nearly everything else.

You wouldn't believe what's going on their sites. They defend the choice of drinking vodka while boating (over Gatorade, water), and defend the carrying of firearms on board as one of their boating rights. See "Lake Lice" and "Speed Bumps" (and other terms for lesser boats) in print!

Pressure on government agencies, intimidation of Marine Patrols and "tracking down" persons who want to restrict their "fun" appears also. When one of their own collides with a lesser boat, their concern is their Insurance!

They've even ripped our own Webmaster!

"From people who wanted to see the new outdrives," huh? R-i-g-h-t.

Unless they're just "talking the talk", It's a virtual Marine Mafia out there!

I kid you not.

[Cal]

Originally Posted by madrasahs
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Thousands[/I] of Big Boaters, including Biggus, Cal, (and maybe Rob and Will - naaah - not Will) from all over the country know why the video is disabled. "The call" went out to overload the server, driving up the cost for Sebago's www.lrslr.com from the Big Boat sites, (www.fastboat.com, www.vdrive.com, etc) hence, no video at www.lrslr.com today.

You wouldn't believe what's going on their sites. They defend the choice of drinking vodka while boating (over Gatorade, water), and defend the carrying of firearms on board as one of their boating rights. See "Lake Lice" and "Speed Bumps" (and other terms for lesser boats) in print!
They've even ripped our own Webmaster!
Unless they're just "talking the talk", It's a virtual Marine Mafia out there!

I kid you not.

OUCH.....Excuse ME
Did I see my name?? First off you don't know my boat....see my avatar? Can't hear it , can you? Because it's quiet and can pass any noise test anywhere.
Secondly and even more importantly all the boating sites I visit DO NOT promote drinking any alcohol. Far from it. Any organized events (charitable fund raisers and such) strickly prohibit alcohol.
Thirdly...Yes we do carry firearms. They are required by law. They're called Flare guns
And while you're talking about Lake Lice and Speedbumps lets not forget about Snailboaters. We don't spend late hours planning out attacks on these people as you would have it sound
So bash all you like...just keep the facts straight , please.
In a few weeks it will all be a moot point since boating will pretty much be done for the season.
Next you have those nice 2 cycle , smokey , noise making sleds to contend with.
Maybe we should all give up out finely tuned , clean running 4 cycle performance boats for 2 cycle outboards perhaps that would help

[PROPELLER]

Cal, just to set the record straight, I am 99.9% sure that flare guns on NH inland waters are not required by law. You may be confusing that with a Coast Guard requirement on ocean waters. Although I do carry them on the lake & its a good idea.

[Cal]

Originally Posted by PROPELLER

Cal, just to set the record straight, I am 99.9% sure that flare guns on NH inland waters are not required by law. You may be confusing that with a Coast Guard requirement on ocean waters. Although I do carry them on the lake & its a good idea.

They are a USCG requirement. I'm not sure about inland waters , but they surely aren't illegal.
Just like the NH law requires a bell for 26' or 27' and greater. I had a "safety check" by the coasties 3 years ago shortly after 911 and threw them a curve when I pulled out my bell. They weren't sure what to make of it , but I pointed out they are a requirement in some states

[throttleman]

Was someone just hyperventilating?

The Marine Mafia has been around since the beginning of time. You've never heard about them? Did you know that Tony Soprano is an active member? I believe a descendant of the Corleone's are part of it as well.

They've been on a Powerquest for years...it's not a Donzi or a Ponzi scheme nor an illegal Cigarette operation. They spend their time in the Outerlimits of the Baja frollicking in Fountains and enjoying the Sunsation. They're always engaged in Formula's to have an Awesome time. Some play chess and once in a while get a Checkmate, while others are Hustlers and enjoy a good Powerplay. Some appear as Spectres while others are Nordics. I've even seen a few Warlocks wield a nasty Excalibur that's used to slay Dragons, Cougars, and Scarabs. I've seen Black Thunder and Active Thunder and the Sonic boom from both is immense. Their Velocity is faster than most Skaters, yet not as fast as a Chief or an Apache riding a Thoroughbred. If you think I'm being Extreme, you should reread your post....sit back, take a deep breath....and enjoy a Magnum of your favorite vintage.

The sky is not falling.

The internet is so enormous and there are so many powerboaters with different interests and opinions...you can be sure to find some unsavory comments or posts that can be used to promote your propaganda. Heck, you'd not believe the picture I saw of two people on a sailboat the other day....definitely not family friendly material....I've been scarred for life. I'll never look at a sailboater the same way ever again.

[madrasahs]

Originally Posted by throttleman

"...The sky is not falling..."

Looks like it's falling in Maine!

[GWC...]

Originally Posted by DoftheMattysort

Will, who ever you are, you hit the nail on the head. If you don't like it, go somewhere else. Leave the broads to us who don't mind spending money and are not to cheap to spend $300 a weekend on gas.

Hope you didn't forget to send $15.00 to support the Webmaster's Dream cam.

[Rattlesnake Gal]

The noise video has been disabled. I am disappointed that I could not check out what Biggus and his ride looks like!

[Will]

Ok guys I guess its time to give it up, T. we have been caught. Mad found out about our "Marine Mafia" lol E. Hopefully he hasn't found out about our monthly secret meetings in N. the back room of tonys pizza. But yes mad it is true, we are a mafia, we even T support the sale of a drug called gasoline. Well boys it was nice while it lasted but ya cant outsmart some of the people among us. Oh well.


Water Cooled
Willy

[Will]

Throttleman, awesome post, that borders on the line of thoreau. lol. Keep up the good work

[madrasahs]

Originally Posted by Cal

Did I see my name?? First off you don't know my boat....see my avatar? Can't hear it , can you? Because it's quiet and can pass any noise test anywhere.

I'll ease up on you, Cal, since you're generally a good sport. (Just misguided as to noise by people's homes located on protected inland waters).

Here's two quotes from my Virtual Marine Mafia archives:

1)"While I'm not into appeasement, and enjoy antagonizing the intentionally stupid, let's let the local [Big Boaters] decide if we should take over [Winnipesaukee] for a weekend."

2) "I never did get a noise test , but returned later with Corsa Captains Call and kept it closed and followed all the rules religiously as not to be stopped and never had a problem."

Which one did you NOT post?

[Cal]

Originally Posted by madrasahs

I'll ease up on you, Cal, since you're generally a good sport. 1)"While I'm not into appeasement, and enjoy antagonizing the intentionally stupid, let's let the local [Big Boaters] decide if we should take over [Winnipesaukee] for a weekend."

Which one did you NOT post?

This one as " I Remember"

Now since you know so much , fill in the banks if you can

I owned that boat from ____ to ____. My present(quiet) one has been owned from ____ to the present.

Getting late and time to go home for the night

[SIKSUKR]

That cigarrette is a smokin' ride Biggus! SS

[Tyler]

Great looking boat Biggus, congrats!

[Will]

"Mad, for just 169,900 you too could be slicing through the waves in your very own 38' Fountain Lightning. Bright red too just like biggus. Just imagine you come out of the house with your sleek sunglasses on and fire up the twin 525SC Mercruiser Motors, each cranking out an earth shattering roar as you cast off the lines and head off into the sunset over the broads. You race to the weirs as all the women line the shore and cheer your name, for you are their daddy. The possibilites are endless, I mean im not saying that the wow factor of a catamaran isnt there but, ya know just think of the possibilities.

Water Cooled
Willy

[Rose]

Now I think I know where you got your screen name. Up until now, all I could think of was a character in Monty Python's "Life of Brian."

[LRSLA]

Just thought you might want to hear the truth of this matter.

The LRSLA videos are still on the server at a private url.
We made the decision to take them private so that we could
fight certain boaters attempts to spread rumors and lies about
our activity. Our board felt that our Quiet Lakes activity was
overshadowing the other great Boating Safety work we were
doing.

As for the accusation that we pulled the videos due to bandwidth costs.
Were as we did see a large increase in the bandwidth usage on our server
it was still very minimal compared to the amount of bandwidth we are alloted.

Just as in New Hampshire, Southern Maine is experiencing a substantial
increase in boating activity. Offshore type boats are only one of the new
impacts being placed upon our surface waters. LRSLA is working to address the great need for boater education and safety awareness in our region.

As for our noisy boat issue, Maine's Boating Noise Regulations are now being enforced. The boats cited this season were operating illegally. LRSLA not only purchased sound meters this season for The State Warden's, we also sponsored training for the Wardens in noise enforcement. Our state warden's are highly professional and are committed to enforcement of Boating regulation.

Finally, LRSLA acquired 28 sound traces this season of boats that were in violation of Maine's noise regulation. Every boat was a high performance boat and every trace was at least 200% above the legal noise level.
Maine's noise regulations are 75db operational at 50feet and 95db stationary. Fines are $300>$500 per incident. Boats must be measured
with and with out cutouts in place. LRSLA will be petitioning the
legislature for an increase in the fines for next season and noise enforcement activity will increase on Long Lake and be initiated on Sebago
Lake also next season. There have not been any operational tests performed in the region to date. LRSLA is working to see that operational
testing begins next season. Boaters that failed the noise testing failed
stationary tests.

99% of the residents and boaters of the region are supportive of these efforts. LRSLA made many attempts to warn High performance boaters that enforcement was going to ramp up this year. Actually enforcement has been increasing for the last three years.

Noise violators in the region seemed to just blow off the whole issue
crying foul with out every attempting to understand the impact they were
having on the region.

Long Lake is not like Winni. LL is 12 miles long but it is only a mile wide at
it's widest point. With hills on all sides the lake forms a perfect amphitheater. Noise travels very efficiently in this environment.
Long Lake nor Brandy Pond are lakes that can handle extreme noise
levels without suffering great impact.

Yet the violators did not make any attempt to understand the impact.


Civilized society is not about doing any thing you please. Living in a community is about being a good neighbor.

LRSLA has recently formalized a very close relationship with Sebago's SWSW. The two organization are preparing to work together in support of Safe Boating and Quiet Lakes in the Lakes Region of Southern Maine.

[Jan]

Originally Posted by LRSLA

Noise violators in the region seemed to just blow off the whole issue

Sounds familiar!

What a wonderful, informative post. Boat noise is a growing problem that many other lakes recognize and are dealing with. Not here I guess. Is there any group like the LRSLA and Quiet Lakes here on Winni? Sign me up.

Originally Posted by Biggus

....by the way, I just installed a new muffling system that utilizes the latest technology in sound-cancellation technology for performance boats.

Please do not think I do not care about offending folks.

Thanks Biggus . If more "offshore" owners were like you there wouldn't be a problem!

[PROPELLER]

Jan says there would not be a problem if more offshore boat owners were like Biggus (I am assuming she is speaking of Biggus muffling his boat). However, there are many posters, & others who feel (I am not one of them & I do not own an offshore performance boat) that there are other problems with these boats, not just the noise. If every offshore performance boat owner eliminated the noise issue from the equation, in the eyes of many they still would be a problem.

[Rattlesnake Gal]

Originally Posted by PROPELLER

If every offshore performance boat owner eliminated the noise issue from the equation, in the eyes of many they still would be a problem.

You’re absolutely right Propeller. The issue isn’t just about noise, but the manner in which the craft is navigated.
Last Sunday, early evening, one of “those” boats came within 10 feet of us as we were heading into Alton Bay. We were just passing marker #22 (the Little Mark Island marker) somewhat close, when some fool blew by us. We were completely surprised and shocked. It was like he/she came out of nowhere. Roared by us faster than I can even take a guess on. It sped away so quickly we could not even tell the brand. I shudder to think what would have happened if we changed our straight course and veered right past the marker just a bit. I realize that all of these boat owners do not act this way. Everyone out on the lake should follow the rules to be safe. These bigger boats can go a lot faster than the smaller ones, which can be a bit unnerving at times. It could have easily been a smaller boat in the same situation. If the person I am referring to is a member of our forum and is reading this, smarten up. I love my life and do not want it cut short or altered in anyway because of some idiot being reckless.
I’m not saying that I don’t appreciate the larger boats. I’m an equal opportunity enjoyer. There is a time and a place for everything. It can be thrilling to see boats go zooming by. Safely, that is. I would even go so far as to say that I would love to see an official race on the lake. What seats Rattlesnake Islanders would have!
One of my favorite “big boat” memories this summer was when we were out in the middle of the Broads floating. Two tunnel hulls, one was an impressive Nor Tech with an open cockpit and the other was a bit smaller (not sure of the brand) with a closed cockpit and twin outboard engines. Equally impressive. What a race. No other boats were around and each went on either side of us more than 150’ away. Not close to shore. What a sight and it was okay by me. (The smaller one won by a lot.) Very exciting.
The long and short of my post: Big boat, small boat, it doesn’t matter. It is how you use them. Safety before crazy pleasure for everyone!
Climbing down off my soapbox now.

[PROPELLER]

RG, You took the words right out of my mouth. You have stated my opinion exactly. I took a ride 2 weeks ago on a new 30' Baja, the operator was competent, made sure no other boats were anywhere near him when he accelerated & I had a great time. Probably the best riding boat I have ever been on.

Thats not to say I would ever purchase one but it was impressive.

[LRSLA]

There are other issues on the water.

Milfoil was just found within 100 feet of Biggus's
house. The Maine DEP has divers working on the
Songo River at this moment. Invasive's
are a great concern in our region.

Operator issues abound on the lakes.
We believe that this is somewhat do to the
lack of enforcement presence on the lakes.
This is the reason that we contracted dedicated Warden services
in our region.

I constantly hear stories of close calls. I have also been
in some very dangerous situations caused by poor operators.
Of course NH has a mandatory operator certification program.
Maine does not and probably should, but these programs are
hard to pass into law.

I think that we are at one of those times when technology has
exceeded operator ability. I remember when I was young and
I jumped into my dads new Mazda Rx-7. I gunned it around a turn and
ended up fish tailing down the road out of control. My abilities at that
time were not up to the task of operating that vehicle.

This is what I think is happening across the country in the boat area.
Again when I was young a friend of the family had a cigarette
just like Biggus's. I used to ride the second seat during races.
Of course this was on the ocean. One thing I can tell you about
fast boats is, the faster you go the faster something bad can happen.

One of LRSLA's directors has a resume in the navy and on the water
that is unbelievable. He does not back down on the issue that excessive
noise is a safety issue. His belief is that any distraction to the driver
is a safety issue.

Speed and racing have also been an issue on LONG LAKE.
A number of the High Performance boaters being angered at my
activity on the Quiet Lakes issue spent the last month raking my
shoreline at full throttle and full out exhaust. Many of the boats came
closer then the 200 foot safety zone limit. One day I followed a
high performance boat as the operator ran the shore line at about 75 feet
off the shore at full throttle and full exhaust.

Violating the shore line safety zone is dangerous and causes wake damage to the shore line.

In closing I think the greatest issue I have seen regarding noise enforcement
is the tendency of the boaters that receive citations to look for some one else to blame. In our area they chose me and my family. Here I am a guy that is just trying to make the lakes safer for all who use it. The noise issue has been so bad on Long lake that literally you can not carry on a conversation with some one sitting three feet away from you.

Yet when the Warden's writes some one up I am the one getting harassed.
The list is long on the forms of harassment that have been leveled against me. Those same guys that wave the flag are the first to violate my write to free speech. I have been, harassed via email. I have received late night calls telling me to leave town. I have had my cell phone deluged with false calls. I have been threatened with violence repeatedly. I have been cursed out in front of my children. I have had false reports filed against me to the Maine DEP.

Who needs to look for terrorists, we have them right in our own back yard.
I have been maligned and chastised and raked across the coals on national
High Performance Boating web forums.

WHY, because some people don't want to be told to stop violating the law.
The last time I looked, laws were created for a reason. Biggus, the
people that have done all these things are your buddies. These are the
guys you hang out online with and the guys you hang out on the lake with.
Nice bunch of fellow, fine upstanding citizens, that is until they don't
agree with some one else's actions.

In this year of an election, we all need to remember that we are all American's, citizens of a great country. Yet our country is only as great as our tolerance for others beliefs. Look to your neighbor and afford them the same respect that you would request. "Live Free or Die", doesn't mean I'm right and every one else is wrong. It means that we all must have the right to fight for what we believe in with out fear of harassment or prosecution.

High Performance boaters violated my rights.
Those that propagated those actions should be aware that they
have only made me more ready to stay my course.

[Biggus]

I've been very civil here, why are you throwing knives in my direction? You don't know who my friends are. As a matter of fact some of my friends are friends of yours. But since I have a performance boat I am lumped into this terror group???

People who do know me tend to like me, actually I am a very likeable guy! I am not the animal you portray me to be.

I do think the LRSLA is very one-sided and full of mis-information. For example when you had my boat on the video clip. the description read that I had been given 3 citations for excessive noise. That is false. I actually was the first performance boat to volunteer for decibel testing when the game wardens recieved their first meter. I was tested later that summer and was over the limit and given a citation. The muffling system was repaired and I was retested and found to be in complience with the law. In three years I have only recieved one citation and my boat now complies with the law.

Another bit of misinformation was the boat you labled as "RED" and read that it was an example of manufacturers trends towards marketing excessively loud boats. That boat is 15 years old!!! Not a new vessell by any means.

Your comment on the noise is so loud that you can't even have a conversation in your own home is just plain unbelievable. I've been on this lake for over 30 years and have never heard anything remotely close to that.

I do agree with the fact that there are quite a few unsafe boaters out there. But the offenders are not performance boaters. I have never seen a perf. boat up here operating in a dangerous manner. Take a trip through the locks some busy weekend, you are sure to see some clowns and many of them are intoxicated. But none of them will be in a perf. boat.

Just because I've responded to some of the Long Lake topics on the "other" site does not mean I agree with some of the rediculous responses that the thread had recieved.

I'm a property owner also. I can appreciate your want for tranquility but you bought a home in the middle of the largest recreation area in southern Maine and to boot, at the narrowest point of the lake and then cry that you can't find "sanctuary" ...sorry but it's not going to be found here, it can be found about 200 miles north.

Aren't you an avid snowmobiler? I am too but my wife and next door neighbors can't stand the sound of them and many are operated in a very unsafe manner. But, they don't plan to start a ban on them like the LRSLA has done to perf. boats.

Is it true that your family owns one of the largest auto parts chains in the US? If so I'm sure that there hundreds of families all over the country that are sick and tired of the ear-splitting racket from the aftermarket exhaust spewing out of Honda's and Toyotas that seem to be popular with the young kids these days.

The LRSLA is very one-sided and smells like hypocrocy in a big way.

[LRSLA]

This is the problem with limited communication, errors are made on both sides.

First I am NOT an avid snowmobiler. I do own two Polaris 440 sports that I have had for twelve years. In the last twelves years I have put less the five hundred miles on them.

Second, yes my wifes grandfather was one of the original founders of a auto chain. He started when it took three months to drive across the country. But NO her family no longer owns the company, it is a publicly traded company on the NYSE. What this has to do with boating I am not sure.

Third, related to the red Boat, I was in error, I was attempting to point out that smaller boats can make just as much noise. I am sure you are aware of the Rinkers with the side hull exhaust on the lake at this time. There is a trend in recreational boating to sell bow-rider Family type boats that have thru the hull exhaust.

As far as the number of citations you have received, I was only repeating what was told to me by the Wardens. If I was in error I stand corrected.

On LRSLA being one sided, give us a break, we are less then a year old and in that year we have accomplished more in the area of Safe Boating in the Region then had been accomplished in last fifty years. We are a young organization.

As for the Noise and interrupting conversations......
Your disbelief shows that you truly do not understand the impact that the noise is having on the residents. I can only tell you once again that it is this bad and I am not exaggerating in any way the impact. Do you think I want to spend the time I have spent on this issue.
I would much rather be out fishing or spending it with my family.

This is one of the reasons I have so much anger at the noise issue. It has increased to a point were it literally ruins my ability to enjoy my home.

As for the location of my home. I have also been in the area for about thirty years. When I built my home there was not one boat with exhaust like yours on the lake. Once or twice a year a ski boat would come on the lake with straight (dry) pipes, but it would be gone in a day or two. Now there are at least twenty high performance boats on the lake. Their presence permeates the lake environment from one end to the other.
I have calculated that one of the boats passing down the lake is equivalent to at least twenty tractor trailer (eighteen wheelers) passing down the lake at the same time.

So we are now blessed with thirty to forty pass bys on a given summer weekend.

The issue is not that there is traffic on the lake it is that there are boats that are illegal on the lake. On any given weekend I have hundreds of boats passing my property. yet it is the ones that I can hear six miles off in the distance and six miles after they head up lake that seems to be having the greatest impact.

The green scarab was tested at 1/2 mile at 72db, this would mean that he
would have to be at least 95 db operational at 50 feet. 20db over the limit.
Since every three db is a 100% increase in noise intensity, he would be
at least 700% over the legal limit. One Speed was tested at 86db at 200feet
which would mean he would be close to 100db at fifty feet. 25db over the
legal limit, or almost 1000% increase in noise intensity from the legal limit.
You guys need to spend some time studying sound. I could on with twenty six other measurments.


Dude, you have a beautiful boat, i was just down the river last weekend and it was shinny and clean, you should be proud of it. I know your a good guy. I avoided you at the meeting we were at last year for a reason. This issue has impacted me so horribly that I could not control my anger when you introduced your self to me. I just wanted to avoid you, thats it.

I know you would find me a good guy also, I am a good dad, I work hard in my profession, I am well liked and respected, hell I even have great karma,
but I need to protect my investment in my home and ensure that
I can continue to enjoy it.

All I can say is I would rather be spending my time on other issues, but this one hit me were I live literally.

As for LRSLA and it's goals, your are within your right to believe what ever you choose. I work at the direction of my board of directors. We are a Safe Boating and a Quiet Lakes Association. Purchasing 150 hours of Warden coverage for a season is not little task. When the Warden is on the lake he is there to support boating safety. Our safety signs were at three well traveled locations on the lake, and our kids safety coloring books were at
three local restaurants.

[Biggus]

As a fellow waterfront property owner, I'll be glad to see the LRSLA devote some energy to safe boating.

The safety issues are really a big problem over here.

....by the way, I just installed a new muffling system that utilizes the latest methods in sound-cancellation technology for performance boats.

Please do not think I do not care about offending folks. When I should be saving my acorns for the winter, I just dropped a bundle on mufflers for my boat.

[Blue Thunder]

Hey Biggus, wasn't this fun?? Over 2300 views and 64 posts on your question!

Blue Thunder

[KonaChick]

Biggus are you a homeowner as well here on the lake? I think that MP is doing a few things to enforce sound from performance boats on the lake. Our dear friends have a neighbor in their cove with a loud performance boat and heard from their local marina that MP "suggested" he switch to something less noisy. Well I don't know speicifics, if he was just tired of getting tickets from MP or they were going to do some legal action againts him..he put in a quieter system at the beginning of this summer. Imagine the complaints against this guy for MP to go to those extremes.

[Will]

Mad, I rest my case. (LRSLA's post)

Sincerely
Your Buddy
Will