Here it is! Boat Registration Proposed Legislation

[ApS]

Originally Posted by Woodsy

APS...You asked: What possible reason could be given to insist that an 8' windsurfer shell out $$ for Lake Restoration...?

Yes I did: What does your answer have to do with Lake Restoration?

Originally Posted by Woodsy

"...Using your logic, because the fee is paid by motorboats, only the lakes that allow motorboats should benefit from these monies..."

I've paddled through milfoil before, so I'm OK with that.

Originally Posted by Wolfeboro_Baja

"...Perhaps to pick up trash that might be left behind? I know I follow the carry-in/carry-out method of handling my trash but can you be 100% sure that everyone else does...?"

I've seen hats, sandwich boxes, and styrofoam coolers blow out of motorboats and, even before the boat hits the water—from trailered boats!

I'm 100% sure that an eight-foot windsurfer (or even a six-foot windsurfer) won't be losing any beer cans from his cooler or sandwich wrappers off his boat!
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Originally Posted by Wolfeboro_Baja

"...I can't speak for everyone else that trailers up to the lake, but when I come to the lake, my trailer only goes in the water twice, once to put the boat in and once to take it out!! If someone is putting their trailer in "several times a day", it sounds like they don't know what they're doing!!

I was thinking of fishermen—but I've done it myself.

While searching out waterfront real estate, I inspect all prospects from the water's perspective.

Originally Posted by Wolfeboro_Baja

"...If we're going to look at it that way, then everyone using the lake should be paying some of the fees above..."

Then when does it stop? Should swim floats pay a fee? Swim noodles? Should swim rafts? Model boats?

Paddlers' impacts on lakes are environmentally invisible—as are windsurfers'.

They are least likely to litter, cause the least amount of mayhem, make the least amount of noise, take up the least amount of room in storage, parking, and ApS-coefficient. Indeed, paddling makes one even more environmentally conscious!

Disclaimer: I have never windsurfed, and haven't canoed or kayaked in Lake Winnipesaukee for several years. Last summer, I had two trailers, but sold one that was unnecessarily taking up space.

[Wolfeboro_Baja]

Originally Posted by Acres per Second

...why add a fee on a family's income that doesn't have a place on the lake?

I don't have a place on the lake but people didn't mind pushing for legislation that they hoped would drive me and others like me (performance boat owners) off the lake!! I'm a NH native, born and raised here, but they're hoping the speed limit will convince me to take my boat elsewhere. Before that happens, I'll see to it that ALL motorized boats are banned from the lake (apologies to owners that opposed the speed limit) AND/OR all out-of-state owners are banned from the lake (apologies to the out-of-staters), regardless of whether the boat is registered in NH or not!! So much for the tourism industry!!

Originally Posted by Acres per Second

Yes I did: What does your answer have to do with Lake Restoration?

They're using the lake, aren't they?? That would be the only requirement for paying that fee.

Originally Posted by Acres per Second

I've seen hats, sandwich boxes, and styrofoam coolers blow out of motorboats and, even before the boat hits the water—from trailered boats!

I want to say I can count on one hand the number of times something has blown out of my boat but I can't be sure. Suffice to say if anything HAS ever blown out, I immediately turn around and retrieve it, whether it's trash or non-trash!! I stop to pick up trash that isn't mine, just to get it out of the water!

Originally Posted by Acres per Second

I'm 100% sure that an eight-foot windsurfer (or even a six-foot windsurfer) won't be losing any beer cans from his cooler or sandwich wrappers off his boat!
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I'm sure he won't lose any of that stuff either but if he's using the lake, I'm sure he can afford a $5 user fee.

Originally Posted by Acres per Second

I was thinking of fishermen—but I've done it myself.

While searching out waterfront real estate, I inspect all prospects from the water's perspective.

Must be nice to have water-front real estate. IF I was inspecting multiple potential real estate purchases on this lake in a single day, I'd only launch my boat ONE time and retrieve it ONE time. Like I said before, it seems like utter foolishness to launch & retrieve your boat multiple times, on the same day, in the same lake (unless it's being worked on and the only way to test is to launch, test, then retrieve and work some more but that's a WHOLE different issue)!!!

Originally Posted by Acres per Second

Then when does it stop? Should swim floats pay a fee? Swim noodles? Should swim rafts? Model boats?

Stop being dramatic; I'm sure you and I both know it should only apply to windsurfers and up (kayaks, canoes, sailboats, powerboats, etc.) but you never know, those darn legislators might get carried away as they frequently do, trying to legislate to protect us from ourselves (AND always keeping a sharp eye out for new sources of revenue)!!! Who knows, maybe someday they'll figure out a way to legislate common sense (but I wouldn't hold my breath!)!!

[no-engine]

For those who discuss boat registration fee increases, how about the governor's other proposals?
If one has a NH EZPass account, one gets 30% discount on tolls in NH. He proposes no discount! So, how would that encourage drivers to use any electronic toll collection? Pay for the transponder, but you do not own it!
He is a NICKEL/DIMER!