Braun Bay ???

topwater · 02-21-2009, 12:37 PM

Realistic option or un-realistic option, as someone put, if your breaking the LAW your breaking the law period. So if your asked to move by marine patrol , no matter how you look at the situation you DO NOT have the right to do it LEGALLY. So weather there making you move or stopping someone for breaking the 150' rule, Marine Patrol is doing thier job. CUDO.s to Marine Patrol.

OCDACTIVE · 02-22-2009, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by topwater

Realistic option or un-realistic option, as someone put, if your breaking the LAW your breaking the law period. So if your asked to move by marine patrol , no matter how you look at the situation you DO NOT have the right to do it LEGALLY. So weather there making you move or stopping someone for breaking the 150' rule, Marine Patrol is doing thier job. CUDO.s to Marine Patrol.

I am not disagreeing with you that there is a law. The concern that was brought up was to discuss what exactly is the statute, and how we are supposed to adhere to it in this particular bay. Also, why the MP would take this particular day and suddenly crack down. Not to mention the rudeness aspect.

The world isn't always black and white. Discussions like this is where ideas and points of view are discussed to enlighten people as to the particulars of a situation. I have personally learned a lot from this conversation as I hope others have as well.

Also there seems to be some confusion as to how the law is supposed to be adhered to and enforced. Even what the MP's said that day is different then what I have read here. So I am not to quick to hand out the "Kudos"

EricP · 02-22-2009, 10:43 AM

NWZs get created when somoene complains about the rafting near them and the problems that come with large groups of partiers. As was stated in the original post a few bad apples spoil it for the bunch and such is the case in Braun Bay and other NWZs. So if there is a sudden interest in cracking down on activities in Braun Bay then I imagine someone called and complained that things were getting out of hand again. I have seen this played out on other lakes in the country so we are not alone with this problem.

OCDACTIVE · 02-22-2009, 10:49 AM

Very well said.. I also think from a safety perspective which has not been discussed yet. On this particular holiday weekend, if you have been there you know how congested it gets. The reason I get there early not only is for a good spot but because I know that it will fill up VERY fast. The safety aspect is when it is PACKED as you see in the picture it is difficult, not impossible, but difficult to get a boat out in case of an emergency. So I understand the need for a statute but not the actions of these officers on this particular day.

Dave R · 02-22-2009, 10:48 AM

When we hang out in Braun Bay, we arrive early, have fun playing frisbee and such when there's space, and leave when it gets crowded. I take digital photos of the open space on both sides of my boat after we get settled in. I have never had to show the photos to MP, but figure it'll help my arguement that I was there first by having them. We also tend to anchor less than 20 feet from a mooring ball so that anyone that anchors on the ball side of us is clearly in violation, regardless of which side of the ball they are on. We also typically anchor with the bow over muck and the stern over sand. The muck makes people less likely to anchor in front of us, blocking our exit.

OCDACTIVE · 02-22-2009, 10:54 AM

[QUOTE=Dave R;89420]I take digital photos of the open space on both sides of my boat after we get settled in. I have never had to show the photos to MP, but figure it'll help my arguement that I was there first by having them. QUOTE]

GREAT IDEA!!!! best thought yet on this thread.. thank you..

02-22-2009, 10:49 AM	#4
OCDACTIVE Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Fort Myers FL / Moultonboro Posts: 1,045 Thanks: 444 Thanked 574 Times in 178 Posts	Very well said.. I also think from a safety perspective which has not been discussed yet. On this particular holiday weekend, if you have been there you know how congested it gets. The reason I get there early not only is for a good spot but because I know that it will fill up VERY fast. The safety aspect is when it is PACKED as you see in the picture it is difficult, not impossible, but difficult to get a boat out in case of an emergency. So I understand the need for a statute but not the actions of these officers on this particular day. __________________ Have you had your Vessel Inspected Yet?

02-22-2009, 10:54 AM	#6
OCDACTIVE Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Fort Myers FL / Moultonboro Posts: 1,045 Thanks: 444 Thanked 574 Times in 178 Posts	[QUOTE=Dave R;89420]I take digital photos of the open space on both sides of my boat after we get settled in. I have never had to show the photos to MP, but figure it'll help my arguement that I was there first by having them. QUOTE] GREAT IDEA!!!! best thought yet on this thread.. thank you.. __________________ Have you had your Vessel Inspected Yet?

02-21-2009, 12:37 PM	#1
topwater Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 302 Thanks: 85 Thanked 116 Times in 48 Posts	Realistic option or un-realistic option, as someone put, if your breaking the LAW your breaking the law period. So if your asked to move by marine patrol , no matter how you look at the situation you DO NOT have the right to do it LEGALLY. So weather there making you move or stopping someone for breaking the 150' rule, Marine Patrol is doing thier job. CUDO.s to Marine Patrol.

02-22-2009, 10:43 AM	#3
EricP Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 329 Thanks: 28 Thanked 11 Times in 7 Posts	NWZs get created when somoene complains about the rafting near them and the problems that come with large groups of partiers. As was stated in the original post a few bad apples spoil it for the bunch and such is the case in Braun Bay and other NWZs. So if there is a sudden interest in cracking down on activities in Braun Bay then I imagine someone called and complained that things were getting out of hand again. I have seen this played out on other lakes in the country so we are not alone with this problem.

02-22-2009, 10:48 AM	#5
Dave R Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 2,985 Thanks: 246 Thanked 744 Times in 444 Posts	When we hang out in Braun Bay, we arrive early, have fun playing frisbee and such when there's space, and leave when it gets crowded. I take digital photos of the open space on both sides of my boat after we get settled in. I have never had to show the photos to MP, but figure it'll help my arguement that I was there first by having them. We also tend to anchor less than 20 feet from a mooring ball so that anyone that anchors on the ball side of us is clearly in violation, regardless of which side of the ball they are on. We also typically anchor with the bow over muck and the stern over sand. The muck makes people less likely to anchor in front of us, blocking our exit.