Performance Boats- Alive and Well!!!

[ApS]

That first ticket may already be part of Winnipesaukee history.

At 8:40 this morning, a NHMP inboard, traveling at flank speed, tailed a 21' white Donzi for a good mile. The two eventually stopped and drifted out of my sight, but the Donzi did end up being cornered in a cove by Pine Harbor Condos. ("Tuftonboro Bay" is a dead-end).

"The discussion" with the three aboard lasted at least 15 minutes.

(The NHMP inboards usually around here display numbers MP-7 and MP-11, and appear to have the NHMP's most-seasoned officers aboard).

Later, the Donzi left the area at about 1/3 his accustomed rapidity. (About equivalent to NHMP's flank velocity). Since then, it's been a relatively busy Saturday, with bright sun all day and variable winds from 0 to 15, but everybody seems to be behaving themselves—at least since 8:40 AM.

I gotta say, that's one really fast Donzi! (100-MPH? Danged impressive for a little boat). Maybe Woodsy has heard if history was made today.

(Or, to put it another way, will this ticket appear on eBay?)

[Tyler]

That was my boat you are referring to, no ticket was given, sorry to disappoint you.

[BroadHopper]

Originally Posted by Acres per Second

That first ticket may already be part of Winnipesaukee history.

At 8:40 this morning, a NHMP inboard, traveling at flank speed, tailed a 21' white Donzi for a good mile. The two eventually stopped and drifted out of my sight, but the Donzi did end up being cornered in a cove by Pine Harbor Condos. ("Tuftonboro Bay" is a dead-end).

"The discussion" with the three aboard lasted at least 15 minutes.

(The NHMP inboards usually around here display numbers MP-7 and MP-11, and appear to have the NHMP's most-seasoned officers aboard).

Later, the Donzi left the area at about 1/3 his accustomed rapidity. (About equivalent to NHMP's flank velocity). Since then, it's been a relatively busy Saturday, with bright sun all day and variable winds from 0 to 15, but everybody seems to be behaving themselves—at least since 8:40 AM.

I gotta say, that's one really fast Donzi! (100-MPH? Danged impressive for a little boat). Maybe Woodsy has heard if history was made today.

(Or, to put it another way, will this ticket appear on eBay?)

You must have been going pretty fast yourself to see all this..............

[chipj29]

Originally Posted by trfour

Ya, the good'OL days since gone.... Talk about a "Jump Out Of The Water
Adrenaline Rush", here's a boat that I got to ride on, a triple 900 hp'rd 9.5' beamed, stage hulled 46' Cougar. After the firing of all three engines while negotiating out into open water, doo put your Hanns Devise on and pray!

With the 45mph limit, doubt we will ever see them here.

Are you sure that is a boat? Because it looks like a rocket to me!
Darn nice looking boat though...would love to see that in action.

[VtSteve]

Originally Posted by BroadHopper

You must have been going pretty fast yourself to see all this..............

I'm glad I didn't see that this morning. Coffee's so much harder to get off the display than plain old water

APS, why all the drama? Flank Velocity? Indeed.

[tis]

I heard third hand that people known to GH marina in Wolfeboro have gotten tickets. Four of them.

[BroadHopper]

Originally Posted by tis

I heard third hand that people known to GH marina in Wolfeboro have gotten tickets. Four of them.

Must be targeting the old wooden boats...................
Easier to pick up on the radar!

[Woodsy]

Its going to get REALLY interesting in a few weeks/months.

A key provision of HB-847 was that NO SPECIFIC FINE was established for a speeding violation. The fine (if there is one) will be set by the Judge... Yup the JUDGE!

Any and all speeding tickets written on Lake Winnipesaukee will result in a court hearing... That means the offender will have to take a day off, a few hours of court time etc... I wonder what thats going to cost our already overburdened and underfunded judiciary!

Gotta love these "No Cost" laws!

Woodsy

[LIforrelaxin]

Originally Posted by Woodsy

Its going to get REALLY interesting in a few weeks/months.

A key provision of HB-847 was that NO SPECIFIC FINE was established for a speeding violation. The fine (if there is one) will be set by the Judge... Yup the JUDGE!

Any and all speeding tickets written on Lake Winnipesaukee will result in a court hearing... That means the offender will have to take a day off, a few hours of court time etc... I wonder what thats going to cost our already overburdened and underfunded judiciary!

Gotta love these "No Cost" laws!

Woodsy

Insteresting observance Woody..... a few comments on this as I see it.

This is a good thing as I see it. instead of handing out a fine and being done, assuming the boater just pays the fine, the case will end up in court. In which case, all the information can get brought out, such as, just how fast the boat was going, the proximaty of other boats, the weather conditions etc etc.

For all of you opposed to the speed limit this is what you want, people will be able to fight the case that they where going fast, but not endagering anyone.

it also what people like me want to see.... I believe in speed control on the water but only to a point. Wide open areas like the broads should be speed zone free. It is only the congested areas like Wolfboro Harbor, Center Harbor, and the Wiers that need the speed limit...... Making Meradith Bay a no wake zone was in my mind one of the better moves....

Anyway just some thoughts, and once again, thanks for that bit of information Woodsy....

[tis]

If that is the case Woodsy, it will be interesting to see how long it takes to get the case INTO court! A month, 6 months, a year???

[sunset on the dock]

Will the offender be required to go to court? That in and of itself would be a major deterrent to breaking the law, given time required off from work, travel, etc.

[VtSteve]

Originally Posted by sunset on the dock

Will the offender be required to go to court? That in and of itself would be a major deterrent to breaking the law, given time required off from work, travel, etc.

I would think so as well. Once the speeding and drunk driving laws went into effect, we haven't seen many people breaking those laws

[sunset on the dock]

Originally Posted by VtSteve

I would think so as well. Once the speeding and drunk driving laws went into effect, we haven't seen many people breaking those laws

Seriously though, my point is that with a land speeding ticket one needn't go to court. You can bet if people were required to go to court for every highway speeding ticket that they would play real close attention to the speed limits.

[Woodsy]

You will be issued a summons to appear... you cant just mail in the fine.... this insures EVERYONE will be required to appear in front of a judge and plead thier case. (Not to say the prosecutors might offer some sort of plea deal -maybe $50 fine and it doesnt affect driving record or some such deal). The pleas deal would save the courts time and $$$.

As Tis asks... How long to get into court?

That remains to be seen. It should be interesting to see how that plays out. Especially considering the P/T status of most officers. The MP officer that issued the ticket will be REQUIRED to appear as well. (Same as an auto speeding violation)

In the off chance that any of the law abiding forum members here should get a ticket, make sure you make a note of issuing officer and prevalent conditions... boat traffic, lake chop, time of day etc. Especially note the type of radar unit used...

Woodsy

[wifi]

Don't officers testify in court during their off hours/days, thereby getting OT? Interesting incentive, if true.

[Woodsy]

I doubt they get overtime pay for court appearances... No doubt its scheduled far in advance.

Woodsy

[sunset on the dock]

I would think that many go fast boaters, in light of the kind of money that they have to pour down their gas tanks, would rather just pay the fine and have it all over with. Having to go spend a day in court....now that's a real disincentive to speed.

[OCDACTIVE]

Originally Posted by sunset on the dock

I would think that many go fast boaters, in light of the kind of money that they have to pour down their gas tanks, would rather just pay the fine and have it all over with. Having to go spend a day in court....now that's a real disincentive to speed.

You are correct in many respects, however now that it is linked to your MVR and they are not issuing fines, only summons where you have to appear. Paying the fine isn't that simple.

[Pineedles]

Not only would the ticketee need to be in court but also the ticketor. That will mean either alot of dismissed cases or the MP will be off the lake fairly often. Oh how our gov't is soooo smart when they pass laws.

[ApS]

Originally Posted by OCDACTIVE

I was out...Nothing is keeping me from enjoy my new toy to the Fullest!!!

So you wrote on the 27th—but on the previous day, you state this:

"...2 jet skiers criss crossing back and forth, the stopping abruptly, not even looking at the line of boats coming on and off plane due to their actions...I had enough and docked her for the rest of the weekend..."

Was there a memo involved here?

Originally Posted by OCDACTIVE

And people had an average life span of age 62..

Write non sequiturs much?

Real estate references are everywhere on these pages: Lake Winnipesaukee's edges have evolved into a decidedly residential, even suburban, environment.

The days of open exhaust are gone: Every season, discussions of boat damage to lakefront properties are raised.

Lake Norman, mentioned here this week, once had a boat run out of the lake to hit a truck on the Interstate!

Originally Posted by Tyler

That was my boat you are referring to, no ticket was given, sorry to disappoint you.

We have a member here who not only knows Donzi/Donzi-supporters on this lake, he has ample "street creds". Thank you, but I'll await a comprehensive report from Woodsy on this.

Originally Posted by VtSteve

"...APS, why all the drama? Flank Velocity...?"

1) After all, I very well could have witnessed "history in the making".

2) "Flank" means all-out: "Velocity" and "rapidity" are word-substitutes for s***d—which, I think you'll agree—is to be avoided in these times.

3) Maybe you haven't observed "The NHMP Inboards of Antiquity". The one described had its engines screaming: even then, I doubt it broke 35.

Originally Posted by BroadHopper

"...You must have been going pretty fast yourself to see all this.............."

The entire viewing of this "chase" (such as it was, for the MPs) took place within 1½ miles of my stationary position.

[OCDACTIVE]

[QUOTE=Acres per Second;96125]

So you wrote on the 27th—but on the previous day, you state this:


Was there a memo involved here?


Write non sequiturs much?

Real estate references are everywhere on these pages: Lake Winnipesaukee's edges have evolved into a decidedly residential, even suburban, environment.



Just wondering.. Is there a particular reason you like to piecemail many different posts then bring them together to make points that really weren't part of the original conversation? Just happen to see a pattern.

In one post I was discussing the new limits that they weren't going to keep me off the lake that particular day. Then we were discussing boat traffic of which I was fed up with and docked the boat..

I just don't see what you are trying to accomplish? serious question.. I mean are you literally just trying to start controversies?

I don't care either way.. If so have at it but just curious. No offiense intended.. Just making conversation and poking a little fun.

Play on.

[Mee-n-Mac]

Originally Posted by OCDACTIVE

I just don't see what you are trying to accomplish? serious question.. I mean are you literally just trying to start controversies?

You are new here aren't you ....

[OCDACTIVE]

Originally Posted by Mee-n-Mac

You are new here aren't you ....

LOL.. maybe in comparrison yes...... I mean I don't mind good heated discussion even arguments. but I just don't see why piece mailing posts from different threads to try to draw a conclusion or find some type of ambiguity is necessary. Or frankly where one finds the time to do so and go through the effort. I mean what is there to accomplish other then to start a controversy over nothing.

It is one thing if it is a discussion on a specific point but in this case it just seems silly..

But to each his own I guess.. Whatever gets their rocks off.

Well regardless of "boat traffic" "limits" "gas prices" or anything else that can be pulled from other threads and pieced together...................... I am heading up this weekend. Thinking of heading to the Naswa on Saturday for lunch.. If any of you Performance boating enthusiasts who are alive and well would like to meet up, would be great to finally put the posts with the name and face.


And no offense Acres Per Second.. Just poking fun.. Have at it.. I am always up for a good laugh!

Cheers.

[DoTheMath]

OCD~ Water off a ducks back man - let it go. Been there, done that (with APS) and it's a long and unfulfilling road at the end. You figured it out, now back to our regularly-scheduled program

Great pick on your 28' - Pat builds a monster ride and stands behind them 100%! Enjoy it, I think there's a 33' in your not-too-distant future... isn't Remedy still for sale!?

See you on the water -

-Mark-

[OCDACTIVE]

Originally Posted by DoTheMath

OCD~ Water off a ducks back man - let it go. Been there, done that (with APS) and it's a long and unfulfilling road at the end. You figured it out, now back to our regularly-scheduled program

Great pick on your 28' - Pat builds a monster ride and stands behind them 100%! Enjoy it, I think there's a 33' in your not-too-distant future... isn't Remedy still for sale!?

See you on the water -

-Mark-

hey mark.. I have heard the same thing from others as well.... so not even going to go there. Thanks for the heads up.

Thank you. Actually I can not see going to the 33. It really wouldn't fit in the places I am going to use it. Steve is no longer selling Remedy and I am very happy to see that. I will be running next to her in Virginia at Jammin on the James. You should join us.

You going up this weekend? Naswa lunch?

[BroadHopper]

The Formula won't be out of the upholstery shop in time for this weekend. Hope to see you guys for lunch at the NASWA. Anybody taking riders?

[OCDACTIVE]

Originally Posted by BroadHopper

The Formula won't be out of the upholstery shop in time for this weekend. Hope to see you guys for lunch at the NASWA. Anybody taking riders?

I wish I had room. I literally am full up with a boat full of guys... Just need a rainbow flag and people would get a hell of a laugh..

[Rose]

Originally Posted by OCDACTIVE

I wish I had room. I literally am full up with a boat full of guys... Just need a rainbow flag and people would get a hell of a laugh..

Hey, it's LGBT Pride month...go for the flag.

[OCDACTIVE]

Originally Posted by Rose

Hey, it's LGBT Pride month...go for the flag.

UMMM NEGATIVE!!! .. Don't think my wife would like that.. nor I.. Going on the record here... Just making a joke...... (any Sienfeld fans here) "Not that there is anything wrong with that"

[DoTheMath]

Originally Posted by OCDACTIVE

hey mark.. I have heard the same thing from others as well.... so not even going to go there. Thanks for the heads up.

Thank you. Actually I can not see going to the 33. It really wouldn't fit in the places I am going to use it. Steve is no longer selling Remedy and I am very happy to see that. I will be running next to her in Virginia at Jammin on the James. You should join us.

You going up this weekend? Naswa lunch?

Yeah, I knew he was wavering back and fourth on selling it last time I checked... plus the 28' really is perfect for our water up there, and will handle runs like the "Jammin' " just fine too.

I'm pretty sure I won't be up this weekend, I've got little guy duty (have a 4 yr old son) all weekend as my wife has a wedding shower and another event to attend. Next time for sure though...

[VtSteve]

Originally Posted by Mee-n-Mac

You are new here aren't you ....

Geez, now I have Fresca all over my screen.

BTW OD, I'll bet you have absolutely no idea how many acres per second your boat occupies on the lake at any given rate of speed do ya? With the 150' bubble around you and other boats, the math is an incredible exercise. You may need a long lunch at the NAswa. We could first start off computing it at Flank Velocity

Do they have lobster rolls at the Naswa?

[OCDACTIVE]

Originally Posted by VtSteve

Geez, now I have Fresca all over my screen.

BTW OD, I'll bet you have absolutely no idea how many acres per second your boat occupies on the lake at any given rate of speed do ya? With the 150' bubble around you and other boats, the math is an incredible exercise. You may need a long lunch at the NAswa. We could first start off computing it at Flank Velocity

Do they have lobster rolls at the Naswa?

Ok.. LMAO!!! I just spit beer on the screen.. Fresca?????


Yes sounds like a good lunch.. Not sure on the lobster roll, but you may have to take out a mortgage to afford it at their prices.. LOL..

But it comes with spicy curley fries so its worth it...

Maybe Acres Per Second would like to join us?

[hazelnut]

[QUOTE=OCDACTIVE;96197]

Originally Posted by Acres per Second

So you wrote on the 27th—but on the previous day, you state this:


Was there a memo involved here?


Write non sequiturs much?

Real estate references are everywhere on these pages: Lake Winnipesaukee's edges have evolved into a decidedly residential, even suburban, environment.



Just wondering.. Is there a particular reason you like to piecemail many different posts then bring them together to make points that really weren't part of the original conversation? Just happen to see a pattern.

In one post I was discussing the new limits that they weren't going to keep me off the lake that particular day. Then we were discussing boat traffic of which I was fed up with and docked the boat..

I just don't see what you are trying to accomplish? serious question.. I mean are you literally just trying to start controversies?

I don't care either way.. If so have at it but just curious. No offiense intended.. Just making conversation and poking a little fun.

Play on.

OCD didn't you know that APS was a member of the Warren Commission? Conspiracies man..... they're all around us man.....

APS, it is entertaining and sometimes really really confusing to read your posts. Oftentimes I get so lost in the logic I get a brain cramp. Good stuff though keep on keepin it real.

[OCDACTIVE]

[QUOTE=hazelnut;96214]

Originally Posted by OCDACTIVE

APS, it is entertaining and sometimes really really confusing to read your posts. Oftentimes I get so lost in the logic I get a brain cramp. Good stuff though keep on keepin it real.

Thats because I have been drink'n.. LOL.. I sometimes fail to find my logic.. But whatever I type its always correct.. LMAO!!!

[SIKSUKR]

[QUOTE=hazelnut;96214]

Originally Posted by OCDACTIVE

OCD didn't you know that APS was a member of the Warren Commission? Conspiracies man..... they're all around us man.....

APS, it is entertaining and sometimes really really confusing to read your posts. Oftentimes I get so lost in the logic I get a brain cramp. Good stuff though keep on keepin it real.

I'm pretty sure he is the only one that understands his posts.

[OCDACTIVE]

[QUOTE=SIKSUKR;96245]

Originally Posted by hazelnut

I'm pretty sure he is the only one that understands his posts.

Sorry.... I don't follow you.. Please clairify.. LOL

[livefreeordie]

If I won the lotto I would get something like this....

or this





but I think people might be mad with me zipping around at 198mph sounding like a jet taking off lol....
Looks like a good weekend coming up who will be out on the water?

[OCDACTIVE]

I've seen those down in key west... Very nice.. I would prefer the new 43 Active Thunder that is being built. Stay tuned for pics.

[livefreeordie]

Do you go down on the poker run and for the races? I have been going since I was a kid.... I miss the old popeye's, Gentry Eagle, InXs, Little Caesars Pizza days......

[OCDACTIVE]

Originally Posted by livefreeordie

Do you go down on the poker run and for the races? I have been going since I was a kid.... I miss the old popeye's, Gentry Eagle, InXs, Little Caesars Pizza days......

A couple years back.. but since my son was born I haven't been able to make it to any races... I will be down at the Miami Boat show this coming year..

[livefreeordie]

Originally Posted by OCDACTIVE

A couple years back.. but since my son was born I haven't been able to make it to any races... I will be down at the Miami Boat show this coming year..

I have never made it to that boat show, my dad always works it for Nor-tech im going to try and go next year.....
the new 40 roadster that they showed at this years show along with the new 80

[OCDACTIVE]

Both GREAT boats. I love Nor-Tech. One of the top boats in the industry. Would love to see a turbine cat running the broads.. But in reality by the time they are wound up they would have to get ready to turn around.

[livefreeordie]

remember when we had boat races on the lake I think it always happened the first or 2nd week in june..... for a few of those years we had a few big boys show up...

[tis]

I do "live free". Weren't they great? It was so much fun to go out there and watch them. Once we saw them get thrown out when they went around a corner. They were ok. I wish they could bring them back.

[ishoot308]

Remember when they had the hydroplane boat races over at the Moore dam in Littleton?? That was a while ago and not sure why they stopped as quite the crowd would show up. It was great fun to watch!

Dan