Mooring Ball Application

DRH · 06-16-2009, 07:55 PM

We submitted our mooring renewal application several months ago, after having maintained an approved mooring for about 15 years. We have never had any problem getting our permit, but I've always made sure our application was very complete, with copies of deeds, photos, plot plan, etc.

However, I did notice something different when we received this year's permit: it does not have a 5-year expiration date as have all our previous permits. It simply says the mooring application has been approved ... with no expiration date noted. I don't really know what to read into this, but I wonder if the state found it too expensive to examine and approve/deny each mooring every five years and opted to do away with the former expiration date for approved moorings.

Does anybody know if the regs have changed?

Rattlesnake Guy · 06-16-2009, 08:17 PM

Our quest was in adding a set of stairs to an existing dock. After several rounds we finally had to do a study to see if any endangered species would be impacted by our set of stairs. We did finally get the permit.

A friend on an island built a house and was told that his house building permit from the town included the permission to build a set of stairs to the lake without a state permit at all. Makes you wonder if anyone really knows what the rules are.

eillac@dow · 06-18-2009, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by DRH

We submitted our mooring renewal application several months ago, after having maintained an approved mooring for about 15 years. We have never had any problem getting our permit, but I've always made sure our application was very complete, with copies of deeds, photos, plot plan, etc.
However, I did notice something different when we received this year's permit: it does not have a 5-year expiration date as have all our previous permits.

The part that kills me is...my mom is so thorough! We send in what they ask for......but yet it comes back saying...they want this or that! We are asking for the SAME thing year after year..no chnages! So what is the issue? Frustrated...You bet!

AC2717 · 06-19-2009, 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by eillac@dow

QUOTE=DRH;97437]We submitted our mooring renewal application several months ago, after having maintained an approved mooring for about 15 years. We have never had any problem getting our permit, but I've always made sure our application was very complete, with copies of deeds, photos, plot plan, etc.
However, I did notice something different when we received this year's permit: it does not have a 5-year expiration date as have all our previous permits.

The part that kills me is...my mom is so thorough! We send in what they ask for......but yet it comes back saying...they want this or that! We are asking for the SAME thing year after year..no chnages! So what is the issue? Frustrated...You bet!

Try having to renew them every year for a cottage assoc and then also all the paperwork and drawings, for something that we have had for at least 15 years already, it is nuts

Kamper · 06-21-2009, 09:54 AM

So far as registerring the boats... If the registration renewals come in seperate envelopes mail them back the same way. If you want to be more crafty, mail them a few days apart.

The reasons for having multiple boats being registerred to different people is so obvious I agree you shouldn't be harrassed but sometimes it's easier to work the system than fight it. One thing you need to be careful of is the "legal residence" of the boats actual owners should be correct even if they live out of state. This might be what is triggerring the questions.

Good luck!

BroadHopper · 06-21-2009, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by AC2717

Try having to renew them every year for a cottage assoc and then also all the paperwork and drawings, for something that we have had for at least 15 years already, it is nuts

I maintain 30 mooring balls for a condo association on Lake Winnisquam. It's becoming a full time job as every year the state demand more and more information. This year the state says we only have room for 15 mooring balls and that the boats can't be more than 18 feet! The first time were told in 40 years!

I just don't believe that we have to resubmit deeds, registrations etc. every year. The state should have this on file and reuse it. As for registration, they can access the DMV database for renewal.

AC2717 · 06-21-2009, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by BroadHopper

I maintain 30 mooring balls for a condo association on Lake Winnisquam. It's becoming a full time job as every year the state demand more and more information. This year the state says we only have room for 15 mooring balls and that the boats can't be more than 18 feet! The first time were told in 40 years!

I just don't believe that we have to resubmit deeds, registrations etc. every year. The state should have this on file and reuse it. As for registration, they can access the DMV database for renewal.

This year we had to pay to have our mooring field drawn up and resubmitted, but I was not sure if that was to maintain the 5 year work permitt or if they required it, i am pretty sure the state wanted it again for the mooring registrations though, again not that sure, but it is getting pretty ridiculous

DRH · 06-22-2009, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by BroadHopper

I maintain 30 mooring balls for a condo association on Lake Winnisquam. It's becoming a full time job as every year the state demand more and more information. This year the state says we only have room for 15 mooring balls and that the boats can't be more than 18 feet! The first time were told in 40 years!

I just don't believe that we have to resubmit deeds, registrations etc. every year. The state should have this on file and reuse it. As for registration, they can access the DMV database for renewal.

The "Application for an Individual Mooring Permit Renewal" that we have been submitting every five years specifies that it is for four or fewer moorings, so the requirements for a mooring field are likely different. On the individual mooring application, a copy of the deed must be submitted only if there has been a change during the previous 5 years. The application does state that the current registration for all boats used at the property must be submitted with the application.

Bear Islander · 06-22-2009, 10:43 AM

If you have a problem with a mooring permit application you should call and talk to the woman in charge. She is very helpful and can review the application and clue you in on what is needed. She does not approve the permits herself, but can can give you an idea about what will fly and what will not.

06-16-2009, 07:55 PM	#1
DRH Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Meredith Posts: 1,694 Thanks: 1,212 Thanked 677 Times in 179 Posts	Has Something Changed? We submitted our mooring renewal application several months ago, after having maintained an approved mooring for about 15 years. We have never had any problem getting our permit, but I've always made sure our application was very complete, with copies of deeds, photos, plot plan, etc. However, I did notice something different when we received this year's permit: it does not have a 5-year expiration date as have all our previous permits. It simply says the mooring application has been approved ... with no expiration date noted. I don't really know what to read into this, but I wonder if the state found it too expensive to examine and approve/deny each mooring every five years and opted to do away with the former expiration date for approved moorings. Does anybody know if the regs have changed? __________________ DRH

06-16-2009, 08:17 PM	#2
Rattlesnake Guy Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 1,254 Thanks: 423 Thanked 366 Times in 175 Posts	Our quest was in adding a set of stairs to an existing dock. After several rounds we finally had to do a study to see if any endangered species would be impacted by our set of stairs. We did finally get the permit. A friend on an island built a house and was told that his house building permit from the town included the permission to build a set of stairs to the lake without a state permit at all. Makes you wonder if anyone really knows what the rules are.

06-21-2009, 09:54 AM	#5
Kamper Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Thornton's Ferry Posts: 1,312 Thanks: 67 Thanked 172 Times in 128 Posts	So far as registerring the boats... If the registration renewals come in seperate envelopes mail them back the same way. If you want to be more crafty, mail them a few days apart. The reasons for having multiple boats being registerred to different people is so obvious I agree you shouldn't be harrassed but sometimes it's easier to work the system than fight it. One thing you need to be careful of is the "legal residence" of the boats actual owners should be correct even if they live out of state. This might be what is triggerring the questions. Good luck!

06-22-2009, 10:43 AM	#9
Bear Islander Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Bear Island Posts: 1,764 Thanks: 32 Thanked 441 Times in 207 Posts	If you have a problem with a mooring permit application you should call and talk to the woman in charge. She is very helpful and can review the application and clue you in on what is needed. She does not approve the permits herself, but can can give you an idea about what will fly and what will not.