Ames Farm Being Sued

Mee-n-Mac · 06-25-2009, 09:42 PM

So now one has to wonder what will happen. I can see the ads now ... "Beautiful waterfront condo's, choose from 100 units, nice sandy beach and private access for boats."

Airwaves · 06-26-2009, 01:12 AM

Then poor writing and editing aside, it still bodes the question with a reduction in accessability at Glendale and the loss of Ames Farm, who wins?

trfour · 06-26-2009, 03:11 AM

Lets take the problem at hand out the equation. Political roads leave us at odds. Lets solve this problem. It is so easy to forget that there is a world out here, many people involved, that would like our guidance as well, a reminder again of the Global influence of Our times.
Lake Winnipesaukee Rocks, Please let us keep ahead of our times!!
Terry

VtSteve · 06-26-2009, 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Airwaves

Then poor writing and editing aside, it still bodes the question with a reduction in accessability at Glendale and the loss of Ames Farm, who wins?

Like everything else, it takes time, but generally speaking there are no winners when things like this are decided. You get a group that doesn't like bass boats and tournaments, then you lose the access. So if limited access was their goal, they win.

It used to be that many regulations were directly targeted at keeping the lake clean and safe. Most of the local and state attention the last decade has been targeted at making Winnipesaukee a more limited resource. None of this and none of that. I'm not sure who got the cat's ear that led to the "victory" over Ames launch status, but it would be interesting to see if they do anything on the lake at all.

There's a lot of very selfish people out there.

Woodsy · 06-26-2009, 07:58 AM

The Nuke....

I would love to see the Ames family sell out to some big name developer for millions, and have him put in 100-200 condos on both sides of the street... beach access & boat launch! and with that kind of waterfront you could probably get a few permanent docks in too!

Unintended consequences! Bass boat tournaments or a few hundred people 24-7 with jetski's & boats? You win a battle over bass boats but you lose the war! Your property value drops and you have to deal with LOTS of People, noise & traffic!

Retards!

Woodsy

gtagrip · 06-26-2009, 10:47 AM

Very well said Woodsy! I would love to see the samething happen! With regards to "Retards!" Couldn't have said it better my self!

Thanks,
GTAGRIP(NH vanity plate)

SIKSUKR · 06-26-2009, 11:05 AM

The way the statement was worded by Dunn was that the ramp was not available to the public this summer because they found that the public ramp was not grandfathered.That does not mean that Ames can't apply for permission to use it legally in the future.We'll see.

Kamper · 06-26-2009, 12:48 PM

Idly curious...

Does anyone know if this affects people renting the cabins too? Or is it just drive up users?

Wolfeboro_Baja · 06-26-2009, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Kamper

Idly curious...

Does anyone know if this affects people renting the cabins too? Or is it just drive up users?

As far as I've heard, it's just the out-of-towners driving up to launch that are affected; renters at Ames Farm can still use the ramps while they are renting there.

wifi · 06-26-2009, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Wolfeboro_Baja

As far as I've heard, it's just the out-of-towners driving up to launch that are affected; renters at Ames Farm can still use the ramps while they are renting there.

Why not dedicate a cabin or two, and have a boat launch special. $20 for a 15 minute stay, just long enough to launch or load your boat? You would just have to formally rent the room (& pay the 9%)

ApS · 06-26-2009, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by wifi

Why not dedicate a cabin for two, during daylight hours, and have a boat launch special. $20 for a 15 minute stay, just long enough to launch or load your boat? You would just have to formally rent the room (& pay the 9%)

FLL is already there.

He's the one on the nearest porch—in the rocking chair—behind the metal cash box!

EllyPoinster · 06-27-2009, 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Acres per Second

FLL is already there.

He's the one on the nearest porch—in the rocking chair—behind the metal cash box!

Singing "(boat) trailers for sale or rent. Rooms to let fifty cents . . ."

TiltonBB · 06-27-2009, 08:29 AM

There is usually a way around most rules.

Why not sell memberships to your "exclusive" boat launch club for, say, $20.00?

That way the ramp is not open to the public it is a private facility, limited to members only.

The ski clubs in North Conway have been doing a similar thing for years. They have large open bar parties for all of the members of local ski clubs and the state told them that they couldn't charge a cover because they were then in the nightclub business and selling alcohol without a permit. Each club started selling "invitations" to a private party and got around the regulations. That was true in the 70's and 80's, I'm not sure it is true now.

Then again, it is nicer here with fewer boats!

Wolfeboro_Baja · 06-26-2009, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Woodsy

The Nuke....

I would love to see the Ames family sell out to some big name developer for millions, and have him put in 100-200 condos on both sides of the street... beach access & boat launch! and with that kind of waterfront you could probably get a few permanent docks in too!

Unintended consequences! Bass boat tournaments or a few hundred people 24-7 with jetski's & boats? You win a battle over bass boats but you lose the war! Your property value drops and you have to deal with LOTS of People, noise & traffic!

Retards!

Woodsy

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Originally Posted by gtagrip

Very well said Woodsy! I would love to see the samething happen! With regards to "Retards!" Couldn't have said it better my self!

Thanks,
GTAGRIP(NH vanity plate)

While part of me agrees and would LOVE to see 100+ condos (complete with docks, boats and associated noise!) go in at the Ames Farm property as revenge to the neighbor that started all this, I'd really rather see it remain the way it is and get the usage of the public launch ramps restored. In my opinion, it was the best public launch facility, hands down. If that access goes away permanently, I'll be very disappointed.

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Originally Posted by SIKSUKR

The way the statement was worded by Dunn was that the ramp was not available to the public this summer because they found that the public ramp was not grandfathered. That does not mean that Ames can't apply for permission to use it legally in the future. We'll see.

This is what I'm hoping for! Get the other permit problems taken care of, apply for a permit (or whatever) to return the launch ramps to public use and everyone will be happy! Well, maybe not the nasty neighbor that started this mess but I'LL BE HAPPY (and anyone else that used to use the Ames Farm ramps on a regular basis)!

Come to think of it, the nasty neighbor's probably hoping for ee a developer come in after all; then he can sell his piece of property to said developer for a hefty sum!!

EZ-Pass · 06-26-2009, 05:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Mee-n-Mac

So now one has to wonder what will happen. I can see the ads now ... "Beautiful waterfront condo's, choose from 100 units, nice sandy beach and private access for boats."

Boy wouldn't the town LOVE that. I bet there wouldn't be any difficulties getting permits for that as the town will want the income from all the taxes.

06-25-2009, 09:42 PM	#1
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trfour Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Lakes, Central NH. and Dallas/Fort Worth TX. Posts: 3,694 Blog Entries: 3 Thanks: 3,069 Thanked 472 Times in 236 Posts	Well And Also Well.... Lets take the problem at hand out the equation. Political roads leave us at odds. Lets solve this problem. It is so easy to forget that there is a world out here, many people involved, that would like our guidance as well, a reminder again of the Global influence of Our times. Lake Winnipesaukee Rocks, Please let us keep ahead of our times!! Terry __________________ *trfour* Always Remember, The Best Safety Device In The Boat, or on a PWC Snowmobile etc., Is YOU! Safe sledding tips and much more; http://www.snowmobile.org/snowmobiling-safety.html

06-26-2009, 07:58 AM	#5
Woodsy Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Weirs Beach Posts: 1,968 Thanks: 80 Thanked 980 Times in 440 Posts	The Nuke.... I would love to see the Ames family sell out to some big name developer for millions, and have him put in 100-200 condos on both sides of the street... beach access & boat launch! and with that kind of waterfront you could probably get a few permanent docks in too! Unintended consequences! Bass boat tournaments or a few hundred people 24-7 with jetski's & boats? You win a battle over bass boats but you lose the war! Your property value drops and you have to deal with LOTS of People, noise & traffic! Retards! Woodsy __________________ The only way to eliminate ignorant behavior is through education. You can't fix stupid.

06-26-2009, 10:47 AM	#6
gtagrip Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 301 Thanks: 115 Thanked 75 Times in 52 Posts	Sometimes you get what you ask for. Very well said Woodsy! I would love to see the samething happen! With regards to "Retards!" Couldn't have said it better my self! Thanks, GTAGRIP(NH vanity plate)

06-26-2009, 11:05 AM	#7
SIKSUKR Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 5,075 Thanks: 215 Thanked 903 Times in 509 Posts	This may not be the end The way the statement was worded by Dunn was that the ramp was not available to the public this summer because they found that the public ramp was not grandfathered.That does not mean that Ames can't apply for permission to use it legally in the future.We'll see. __________________ SIKSUKR

06-26-2009, 01:12 AM	#2
Airwaves Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: I'm right here! Posts: 1,153 Thanks: 9 Thanked 102 Times in 37 Posts	Then poor writing and editing aside, it still bodes the question with a reduction in accessability at Glendale and the loss of Ames Farm, who wins?

06-26-2009, 12:48 PM	#8
Kamper Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Thornton's Ferry Posts: 1,309 Thanks: 67 Thanked 172 Times in 128 Posts	Idly curious... Does anyone know if this affects people renting the cabins too? Or is it just drive up users?

06-27-2009, 08:29 AM	#13
TiltonBB Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Gilford, NH and Florida Posts: 3,038 Thanks: 715 Thanked 2,213 Times in 944 Posts	There is usually a way around most rules. Why not sell memberships to your "exclusive" boat launch club for, say, $20.00? That way the ramp is not open to the public it is a private facility, limited to members only. The ski clubs in North Conway have been doing a similar thing for years. They have large open bar parties for all of the members of local ski clubs and the state told them that they couldn't charge a cover because they were then in the nightclub business and selling alcohol without a permit. Each club started selling "invitations" to a private party and got around the regulations. That was true in the 70's and 80's, I'm not sure it is true now. Then again, it is nicer here with fewer boats!