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I thought that this system was scheduled for installation last fall. But better late than never, I suppose.
http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache...nsponder&hl=en Just noticed that the Union Leader pulled the story so here's a summary: EZ Pass start slated for March Author: GARRY RAYNO State House Bureau Chief Publication: Union Leader, The (Manchester, NH) Page Number: A1 CONCORD -- Before the summer tourist season arrives, New Hampshire drivers should be able to pass through electronic toll booths without stopping once the EZ Pass system is up and running. Gov. Craig Benson and state officials yesterday said sections of the long-awaited system could be operational as early as March, but Department of Transportation Commissioner Carol Murray said the goal is to have the entire turnpike system up and running by Memorial Day. Last edited by BBS; 02-02-2005 at 08:20 AM. |
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I just hope they set it up better than they did here in Western MA. The exit I get off at on the way home has three exit lanes, one of which is a fast lane. However instead of putting that lane in the middle it's on the far right. Now if you want to go left after the exit you have to cross one lane and try to merge with the left one. If you are east bound on the pike and take the exit you have to wait for the fast lane folks sitting at a stop to enter the lane or move to the regular ticket lane. All cause the person up front can't get across the lanes to turn left when going through the "fast" lane.
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Thank god it’s finally here what a time saver! And convenient let me tell you. It’s the best idea the Mass & the Everett turnpike has had to date. And I think the Maine turnpike went into effect today also. 2 thumbs up
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Are they going to discontinue tokens? It is a nice savings if you through a lot of NH tolls. I don't thnk that the same discount is offered with Fast Lane.
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Can I hear an "Amen"??!
This makes the entire PA-to-Lake trek a cashless event!
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I read somewhere in the papers that they will have tokens available. Thet means those that use tokens cannot take the 'fast lanes'. I guess that is the price to pay to save some money.
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http://www.nh.gov/dot/turnpikes/pdf/EZPassUpdate.pdf
I beleive NH, Like Maine and MA, will be charging for the ezpass device about$27.50 ea. However you can order one from NY for $0.00 and it will work for the entire east coast. http://www.e-zpassny.com/static/signup/index.html Last edited by Puffin; 02-02-2005 at 02:15 PM. |
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I remember reading that the tokens would be phased out but discounts somehow would still be available,but at a reduced rate than the present.Something like 25% off instead of 50% off. SS
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Hey TOW - You wouldn't be talking about the Rte.30 Fast lane exit in Weston would you? Like like it.
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The DOT FAQ mentions a monthly maintenence fee. Does anyone know how much that might be? Do other states charge this fee?
I'm not a commuter and this will probably not be a good deal for me. We mostly go through the Hooksett and occasionally the Bedford tolls. Rarely have we had a significant wait. The cost of the transponder is as much as I spend on tolls for the year (after token discounts) and the monthy fee could easily make it a Loser. |
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Just to confirm I did get my EZ Pass from NY in yesterdays mail. Not a bad turnaround at all. Ordered Monday Night after 9 P.M. and it was in the mail on Thursday. No charge or deposit for the transponder as long as you pay and allow automatic charges to a CC. Only issue I have is that I thought I ordered 2 units but only received 1, I have to check my order confirmation to make sure. --Edit 2nd unit came in today. not bad turnaround.
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I have four transponders which I got thru NJ several years ago. No charge for the transponders, I must leave $15.00 on deposit from which they draw down the tolls. This automatically replenishes from my credit card. I do have to pay a $1.00 monthly fee for "maintenance". That fee is in total, not for each transponder. That fee is worth it to be able to get through the tolls quicker for my weekend travel back and forth since I hit both Hooksett and Bedford. I just hope there will still be some kind of discount. I will miss the 50% discount on the tokens.
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I hope the EZPASS is in the same lane at every toll plaza. The Rocket Surgeons that did the Garden State Parkway have no system for EZPASS. It would make sense to have them in the LEFT (FAST) Lane but no. The EZPASS lanes are not laid out in a consistant fashion. My normal ride on the GSP goes through 3 Toll Plazas and none are the same.
Caution: Watch out for the drivers that cannot/do not read signs they will drive up to an EZPASS Booth and then decide that it is not where they want to be and make a sudden turn. ![]() I do like the EZPASS especially in bad weather it keeps the rain, snow, slush, etc...outside the vehicle. |
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Ditto Grant! I'm in Jenkintown, PA and curse those New Hampshire tolls every time I have to dig for quarters. This is very good news indeed!
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The state will begin opening the first E-ZPass lanes Memorial Day.
State transportation officials want to eliminate tokens at turnpike tollbooths once the state installs the fast-lane E-ZPass program by Labor Day. New Hampshire moving to E-ZPass toll system - Fosters Online |
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According to this article it is possible that the discounts may apply to residents only. They expect to raise an additional 4 miilion.
http://www.theunionleader.com/articl...?article=50946
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Here is part of the article RG referenced from Foster's regarding NH Resident discounts only:
Rep. John Graham, R-Bedford, said that in addition to eliminating tokens, his bill would have given the E-ZPass discount only to New Hampshire residents but federal court decisions have rendered that preference unconstitutional and Graham asked that it be struck from his bill. Leave it to the press to get things messed up.
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Let's see, traveling from Boston to Lake Winnipesaukee on Route 93, you pass through just the one toll in Hooksett, NH. It costs 75 cents, however if you buy a roll of NH highway tokens for five dollars the 75 cent toll is discounted to 37 1/2 cents. For five bucks, you get a roll of 40 tokens, each one a legal and welcome alternative to a quarter so for five bucks you get the equivalent of ten dollars of quarters.
Each token has a silhouette of NH's granite icon, albeit now deceased, the famous "Olde Man of the Mountain', plus it says "Live Free or Die." About ten years ago, Governor Merrill had the 'New Jersey' barricade gates removed from the tolls and set out huge potted flowers between each toll station because NH is all about flowers and not security gates. Why would anyone want to replace or do away with the tokens? They are sort of a collector's item what with the Old Man, the State motto, and the low, 50% off, bargain basement price. |
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We just have to wait for the state to decide what its going to do and let us know - then the decisions will be easy.
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LG. Try the Hooksett toll on a Friday, late afternoon to early evening. It takes more than a few seconds. Those that come up Rte 3 and pass the Bedford toll at that time gets to wait even longer. Sometimes it is quicker to take 3A through Hooksett, Bow.
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As I said before, this is just a tax increase... from the live free or die state.
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[QUOTE=BroadHopper]The house voted down any discounts.
That's not true. The house voted to eliminate the discount for tokens (which cost $750,000 a year to handle). The fiscal note to the bill passed yesterday - http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/legi...05/HB0604.html - clearly assumes a 50% discount will apply to EZ-pass. But it is up to the governor and council not the legistlature to set toll discounts. See RSA 237:11 V - http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/rsa/...237/237-11.htm Not that the second change made in HB 604 only allows the discount for "in-state accounts" and not "out-of-state accounts". Of course the Senate needs to act before any of this is real. As far as when this might apply, HB 604 has an effective date of Jan 1 2006. |
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Does anyone know when they might start turning this on or selling passes? All the equipment seems to be in place at the tolls and given use in many other states, the systems and software should be ready. I'm guessing the only holdups now are political and bureaucratic.
I'll be making a long trip down the east coast in about a month. Ideally, I'd like to have a pass to use on this trip. I've been holding off buying a pass awaiting an announcement by NH on rates and availablilty. Has anyone heard anything official on this other than the recent House vote on the tokens? |
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Some PRIVACY CONCERNS worry potential E-Z Pass users.
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As suspected, delays look to be mostly political/bureaucratic...
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anybody know how will this system work for those pulling trailers? will you be required to use the regular lanes? after reading the article in the previous posts link. it seems as though there will probably be no discount for users. i think i'm starting to like the idea of keeping the 50% of with the tokens!
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The tolls are counted by the number of axles. When you sign up for EZ-Pass you indicate the toll class so you get charged the appropriate amount. The system can't adjust for when you add a trailer so you can't use the EZ-Pass lane when towing.
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Right now, I was able to use the tokens for my vehicle then pay for the tandem axles with govt coins. I don't think that was a bad deal. It looks like I will be paying the full amount if they eliminate the tokens.
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I've had E-ZPass for years. I was once towing a trailer through the I-87 tolls in Brooklyn, and I was charged for 3 axles instead of 2. Not sure how the system knew, but it did...
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The new EZ Pass system just activated on the Maine Turnpike allows for the towing of your boat or trailer. The system just counts the axles and charges your account accordingly. You will find that whatever state you purchase your EZ Pass in will offer discounts for that state only. I believe I get slight discounts for Maine but not Mass or NH.
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This info from masspike.com
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I know most of you guys will be using the NH system, but the Maine system is probably using the latest technology so it counts the axles and determines the class of vehicle you are driving. I'll have to see after the first time I do it!
Looks like it might be state specific. From www.maineturnpike.com: Q: Occasionally, I tow a camper, boat or other trailer. May I still use my E-ZPass when I do? A: Yes, you may use your Maine Turnpike E-ZPass tag to pay tolls on the Maine Turnpike when you tow a trailer. Maine's new E-ZPass system has the ability to identify the size and class of your vehicle as it travels through the toll plaza. The system then deducts the appropriate toll from your prepaid balance. However, before you use your Maine Turnpike E-ZPass when towing a trailer on other E-ZPass facilities, be sure to check with those other E-ZPass agencies. BT |
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I went through the Rt 3 toll booth this morning at about 8. They had a few northbound lanes closed, with trucks loaded with what looked like new signs parked nearby, and they were working on one of the booths.
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Hooksett as well has new signs posted and brand new camaras facing at your license plate should you decide to not pay. SS
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In today's www.unionleader.com Gov Lynch says the state should use the Easy Pass transponder system plus keep the Old Man of the Mountain tokens with their 50% discount, as well. He got my vote and he gets my vote for this plan. Way-to-go, Governor!
Keep the tokens, keep the tokens, keep the tokens, keep the tokens, keep the tokens, keep the tokens, keep the tokens, keep the tokens, keep the tokens, get the message! And add the transponder system, too. What we need are six traffic lanes that accept tokens and coins and one lane for the Easy-Pass. This works for me! |
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I'm with FLL on this. If you are an occasional user the Pass doesn’t make sense.
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A friend of mine just got several tickets by speeding through the EZ Pass lane in NJ. I guess the cameras also check speed.
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Hoping to have E-Z pass up an running by the July 4th weekend. No change in the rates, transponders purchased in NH will receive 30% discount on NH tolls. For a limited time up to 11/1/05 a transponder will cost $5 & no monthly account charges. No decision on the tokens yet.
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I think the no account charges is only if you choose not to get a monthly statement sent to you but instead check your account on line. Not a problem for forum users.
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Yes, you are correct about the account charges. If you want a prinout its $1 per month otherwise its $0. The $5 transponder price is good until 11/1/05 then they will be $15 according to the Union Leader on 5/13.
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I have been trying to find the source but it escapes me. I read of someone travelling up the east coast and at each toll booth the EZ Pass lanes were all backed up with long lines....but since he was paying with cash, and the lines were shorter there, he breezed right through. I figure I pay $12 per month in tolls (which is $6 with the tokens). If I can breeze through the tolls more quickly by paying cash (and $6 extra per month) it would be worth it to me not be sitting in line with the rest of the suckers. As it is now, the pay-as-you-go booths (any vehicle), rather than the exact change lanes, are most usually much shorter IMO. Time will tell!
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I'm with you McDude.I do find that when the tolls are crowded head to the right lanes for a much quicker line.Maybe it's best to wait and watch to see how the traffic moves when ez-pass comes on-line.Does anyone know how many,if more than one,lanes will be converted at the major tolls like 95 and 93? SS
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I always go to the cash only lines to the right when the others are lined up. I have never encountered a back up at the cash only lanes to the right when paying a toll.
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What is happening to the jobs being replaced by EZ Pass? What does the toll-collector's union have to say about the new system?
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The article isn't clear if the 30% discount will be given to people who purchase their transponders from NH or just NH registered drivers who purchase transponders. I guess I won't give up my NJ transponders until I hear more.
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"Under the plan, drivers who open New Hampshire accounts will get discounts on tolls." Doesn't say anything about being a resident.
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Seems silly to me that either plan would stop accepting tokens (1/2006 or 7/2007) as oppposed to just no longer selling them. After a while they'd run out (for most people, FLL perhaps excluded
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M&M, If the public does not want EZ - Pass why are they going ahead with it? Personally, I would rather have the 50% discount using tokens, I don't have a problem stopping to drop them or give them to a toll taker or stopping to buy new ones.
I think the issue with having both is that if they offer the 50% discount with tokens many will not use EZ-Pass & the costs to run EZ-Pass will be prohibitive on top of the discount of 30% with EZ-Pass & the 50% discount with tokens. I think it should be one or the other & just end it. I have not seen this much flip flopping since Kerry ran for president, just make a decision. |
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Too bad the EZ-Pass system won't be ready for Bike Week. Stopping to pay a toll is always a pain on a bike, tokens or no. EZ Pass would save lots of line time for the bikers and all those unfortunate enough to get stuck behind them.
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A writer to the Laconia Free paper indicated it is going to cost $6.5 milion for the easy Pass system and it only costs $750,000 for the current system. I dont know whether this is correct but that seems like a big hit to the taxpayers unless they can raise the toll to $1.00 as anticipated. A token with disc. will be $.52 v$.37 now, a 14% increase , if the toll goes to $1.00 (they are thinking about it) and the discount stays the same it will cost $.70 , a 19% increase. If they stay with the coins and current discount and raise the rate to a $1.00 it will only cost us $.50.
Also, those EZpass transponders from out of state should check to see if when they use the transponder at the New Hampshire toll whether they will get the New Hampshire discount when they pay the toll charge to the state. I asked New York that question and they indicated you will only get the discount in the state where the transponder is issued. |
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Here's an update that was posted on the NH DOT's web site yesterday:
================================================== == Project Update June 3, 2005 On June 2, 2005, a resolution to move forward with the implementation of E-ZPass was approved by Governor John Lynch and the Executive Council. The highlights of the approved resolution are as follows:
It is anticipated that on June 20, 2005, customers will be able to open E-ZPass accounts via the internet, phone, fax or local NH walk-in centers located in Hooksett, Nashua and Seabrook, NH. NH E-ZPass Customer Service Center Acceptable forms of payment will be credit cards (Visa, MasterCard, American Express and Discover), cash and check. Debit cards and ACH payments from checking/savings accounts will not be accepted. ![]() The NH Department of Transportation estimates that E-ZPass will begin to be deployed at NH toll facilities during mid July 2005. E-ZPass will be phased in over a 4-6 week time frame. The order of implementation is as follows:
Thank you for your interest in NH’s E-ZPass Program!
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That said having a different discount amount for tokens and EZ-pass can only hurt EZ-pass adoption if the EZ-pass demand is elastic. I have to agree that sometimes the non-exact change lanes are faster. But only sometimes. At those times the lines that move the fastest are the lines with buses or trucks in them because of their length. (I.e. they pay once but take up the same roadway as 3 cars). |
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Jeez ..... looks like I'll have to purchase another transponder. I've quite a collection of these things; each state only discounts their own issue. I guess the good news is that tokens will be good, with a 50% discount, for a few more years.
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When Fast Lane started in MA we sent a car to pick up several transponders. When they drove through the toll booth all six transponders in the box were read and charged the toll. |
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My buddy has more than one transponder as he is a salesman from Maine to Florida. He has these alluminum foil pouches that he puts his transponders in. That way he only has the transponder he needs outside of it's pouch and get charge on that transponder only. neat.
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Not 12 hours later... just tried. Received a "Site Under Construction" message.
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I wonder if the site became overloaded during the day, as I was able to complete and submit the online application this morning with no trouble. The charge to my credit card went through today as well, so hopefully my application hasn't become lost in a bowl of byte soup.
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I think it is unfair that those of us with Mass., NJ or NY EZ Pass transponders will not get the same discount as NH drivers. The Hampton Toll is on Rte. 95 an Interstate Highway (read federal) and we are all US residents. If a NH driver comes down thru NJ and uses the NJ Turnpike or the Garden State Parkway during the off hour discount periods, they will enjoy the same discount as any one else in the U.S. who has a transponder. Why is NH being so exclusive? I may just remove my transponder when I hit the NH state line and keep using the tokens as long as possible to get the 50% discount. I would think giving only NH residents a discount on a US highway is unconstitutional.
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I just tried to get on again and got the same message as you. But on Friday I was able to get on and got an account number, they charged my card, etc. Todays Boston Globe says the site will begin taking applications on Monday. PS when you get to the front page of the site, it will ask for your state of residence. No matter where you live enter New Hampshire or it will redirect you to your own states' site. |
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I did get on the site for a short time. I could not get and links that required PDF files. I have verison 6.01 of arobat reader.
If I read the terms correctly the cost for a casual user if $30 for the transponder (1 time) and $1.00 month for maintainence plus tolls. Is this what those that got through and opened an account paid?
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The transponder costs only $5.00 for now (it jumps to $30.00 sometime later this year), and the $1.00 monthly fee only applies if you want a monthly statement printed and mailed to you. An electronic monthly statement is free. (You tell them which you want when you sign up.) If you have two cars, you can order two transponders on your account @ $5.00 each. (It appears that you can order up to 4 transponders for each personal account.) Also, there is a $30.00 initial charge to fund your EZPass account. As you use up those funds by using the EZPass toll booths, your account balance will drop. At some minimum balance point (the exact point isn't clear at their web site), another $30.00 (minimum ... could be more based on your useage) will be charged to your credit card and transferred into your EZPass account to fund future toll charges. I was able to sign up on Friday morning before their site went down. My credit card was charged, and I was assigned an EZPass account number. When the site comes back online, I'm going to check to make sure my account is still there!
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I think there may be some confusion regarding discounts This is what I believe is happening. When you buy your EZpass, it is now discounted to $5, from $30, and that is for NH residents only.
When you travel the roads, there will be a toll discount of 30%. I believe the toll discount is for all cars, no matter where they are from. |
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I believe Nh is not any different than any other state in that a transponder from that state would only have a discount(if offered)in the state you purchased it from. SS
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At the first page enter nh as your residence state, but you can use your home address when you actually sign up for the account |
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Also, when you are presented with the agreement, it states that the transponder will be $30 and there will be a $1 monthly maintenance fee. But if you continue on to the check-out page, you will see the transponder is only $5 and there is no monthly fee if you get your statement via email.
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Does any one know if you can move the transponder between two vehicles? My wife an I usually use the car when going to the lake but there are times when we take the pickup instead. l'd hate to have to purchase two transponders when one would see limited use.
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this is an article from todays union leader. it appears now that the transponder price will be increasing to $24 dollars on july 16th, token sales will cease on september 1st, and will only be accepted for the remainder of this year. this system seems to be changing more than the weather
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I think the raising of the transponder price unexepectedly is a little unfair but I applaud the legislature for ending token use sooner rather than later. I guess people will have to take advantage of the discounted transponder price right away. It made no sense to have a 50% discount for tokens and only a 30% discount for EZ Pass because there was no incentive to buy an EZ Pass transponder. Now that tokens are going to be gone by Sept. 1 and no longer in use by Jan. 1, 2006 people should be more willing to make the switch saving time, money and helping the enivronment by not idling needlessly at the toll booth.
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You are correct Varney Point.I wasn't going to sign up for quite a while but when I saw the new cutoff dates for transponder discount and token acceptence,I signed up yesterday.Iwas confused though while signing up on-line when I was asked what type and how many "tags" I wanted.I searched around and couldn't find any info on what the heck a tag was except certain cars needed rooftop tags because of metal in the windshield.I assumed that this was the part that must communicate with the tollbooth reciever and figured I needed at least one.I guess I'll find out soon enough. SS
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BroadHopper,
You are probably more of the exception than the rule. Going through the tolls 20+ times a week is a lot, no argument there, so for you, you are right, it will be more money at the end of the day. However, the EZ Pass system will save time (which in my world is money) and fuel savings since you will not need to come to a complete stop or nearly complete stop, going through the toll. Also, the difference between the discounts is going to cost you $3 more per week based on your math. IMO not a bad deal considering you'll never have to roll down your window during a snow storm, heat wave or downpour. You won't have to fumble for tokens while driving 65 MPH in traffic thus making you a safer driver and the people around you safer drivers as you can concentrate completely on driving. You're still paying less than the full toll so I think it's a good deal. I am just glad that NH is finally moving forward with this technology. It's been a long time coming. -VP |
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Just hope you don't have to call cutomer service to get help. Man. When I read that they changed the dates on everything, I signed up today, for 2 tags. After I got the confirmation, I realized that I entered my first name in the last name field, and my last name in the first name field. Oops.
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I don't get it. Now, if you read this article, it looks like the change in fees and dates may not be final. But you may not know for 3 weeks...
http://www.unionleader.com/articles_...?article=56681 http://www.unionleader.com/articles_...?article=56683 It always kills me how gov't can run like this. If this were a business, they would be long bankrupt and closed down. It's ridiculous. Of course though, it sounds like the Union Leader jumped the gun on the story yesterday, as the budget bill doesn't appear final. Who knows. |
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