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Mr. V · 06-04-2020, 11:03 AM

I note that the admin and others try to minimize "political" discussions derailing discussions, e.g. in the covid-19 sub-forum.

My question: why not have a sub-forum devoted solely to "politics?"

webmaster · 06-05-2020, 06:30 AM

After 25 years I will close this site rather than allow it to become a political battleground. The site was created to be completely dedicated to Lakes Region activities and topics. What's wrong with that?

thinkxingu · 06-05-2020, 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by webmaster

After 25 years I will close this site rather than allow it to become a political battleground. The site was created to be completely dedicated to Lakes Region activities and topics. What's wrong with that?

Agreed. Absolutely no reason to have a political section on this site.

I appreciate your dedication to the mission.

Cheers!

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Skip · 06-05-2020, 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by webmaster

After 25 years I will close this site rather than allow it to become a political battleground. The site was created to be completely dedicated to Lakes Region activities and topics. What's wrong with that?

Copy that!

Paugus Bay Resident · 06-05-2020, 07:40 AM

There are more than enough other places to discuss politics if that's what one wishes.

jbolty · 06-05-2020, 08:07 AM

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WinnisquamZ · 06-05-2020, 08:48 AM

Morning, can understand your position. But, hopefully you consider political discussions on local lakes region issues. This is a great tool for those that don’t have a Facebook or Twitter account. This tool reaches many people. Gives a voice to those that have no other way to reach others with the same concerns. Yes, many take it too far. But, to start filtering on ones own options is wrong. Life is not just about floating unicorns and pink flamingos. Hopefully you reconsider.

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Bear Guy · 06-05-2020, 09:17 AM

When I joined this forum, I agreed to the site rules, which state, in part,
"...messages directly related to Lakes Region topics, issues or activities..."
I, for one, have and do appreciate the free resource for exchange of questions, answers, and information related to the Lake.

jbolty · 06-05-2020, 10:44 AM

There is certainly validity in topics related to local politics that may affect the lakes region and members and a separate area might be ok for that but we have gotten along so far without it. National issues are better left elsewhere, IMHO and hopefully even the covid forum can be buried someday soon

webmaster · 06-05-2020, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by jbolty

There is certainly validity in topics related to local politics that may affect the lakes region and members and a separate area might be ok for that but we have gotten along so far without it. National issues are better left elsewhere, IMHO and hopefully even the covid forum can be buried someday soon

There have been many threads about local politics and issues over the years and that seems appropriate for this forum. This thread about the Laconia Mayor's race is an example. It's when national politics come up that this forum veers away from its intended purpose.

Loub52 · 06-05-2020, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by webmaster

After 25 years I will close this site rather than allow it to become a political battleground. The site was created to be completely dedicated to Lakes Region activities and topics. What's wrong with that?

Even the Covid 19 forum has bled over into politics. Another vote for no politics on the forum

smith point boater · 06-06-2020, 08:07 AM

As always a big THANK YOU to the Webmaster for creating and hosting this site. His site his rules (and I for one appreciate them) and he is very generous with those that take them a little sideways

- PLEASE don't close the site

- PLEASE< PLEASE don't allow a political forum

upthesaukee · 06-06-2020, 08:31 AM

I joined this site way back when in order to to learn more about the lake and its surroundings. In my early years, I appreciated that a discussion could be had on perhaps a somewhat controversial topic, and while there may not be agreement between two (or more) involved in the discussion, in most cases the disagreement was respectful.

Unfortunately, that "agree to disagree" behavior has become far less frequent, with too much back and forth, usually in a not so respectful manner, becoming the norm rather than the exception. There are uncensored sites that allow, and perhaps encourage, that type of "lively" discussion.

My boat owner days may be over, but I love coming on this site to enjoy all the things that attracted me here in the first place.

Thank you Webmaster.

Dave

WJT2 · 06-06-2020, 01:03 PM

Thank You Webmaster. Plenty of non-sense on Facebook for politics.

FlyingScot · 06-06-2020, 08:05 PM

One interesting thing about this thread--if you look at the Thanks to Don--is that even many of those who regularly post political thoughts (myself included), don't want to be reading/posting political thoughts.

Winilyme · 06-06-2020, 09:03 PM

It’s nonsensical actually. Though I just joined this forum eight months ago, I’ve been reading it for five years. Even in that short period of time, I’ve noticed the deep polarization of opinion take root here. Of course, this is most prevalent when discussing national issues. It’s an unfortunate sign of the times. So much anger and disrespect.

I applaud all efforts to keep non-lakes region politics off limits here. The forum should be a refuge from all that.

06-04-2020, 11:03 AM	#1
Mr. V Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: the left coast (Portland)and West Alton Posts: 1,375 Thanks: 63 Thanked 248 Times in 169 Posts	possible new forum subject I note that the admin and others try to minimize "political" discussions derailing discussions, e.g. in the covid-19 sub-forum. My question: why not have a sub-forum devoted solely to "politics?" __________________ basking in the benign indifference of the universe

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06-05-2020, 08:48 AM	#7
WinnisquamZ Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2016 Posts: 2,002 Thanks: 207 Thanked 635 Times in 426 Posts	possible new forum subject Morning, can understand your position. But, hopefully you consider political discussions on local lakes region issues. This is a great tool for those that don’t have a Facebook or Twitter account. This tool reaches many people. Gives a voice to those that have no other way to reach others with the same concerns. Yes, many take it too far. But, to start filtering on ones own options is wrong. Life is not just about floating unicorns and pink flamingos. Hopefully you reconsider. Sent from my iPhone using Winnipesaukee Forum mobile app

06-06-2020, 08:07 AM	#12
smith point boater Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: West Alton,NH Posts: 206 Thanks: 333 Thanked 94 Times in 53 Posts	THE site As always a big THANK YOU to the Webmaster for creating and hosting this site. His site his rules (and I for one appreciate them) and he is very generous with those that take them a little sideways - PLEASE don't close the site - PLEASE< PLEASE don't allow a political forum

06-06-2020, 08:31 AM	#13
upthesaukee Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Alton Bay Posts: 5,593 Blog Entries: 2 Thanks: 2,444 Thanked 1,977 Times in 1,078 Posts	No need to open to vitriol I joined this site way back when in order to to learn more about the lake and its surroundings. In my early years, I appreciated that a discussion could be had on perhaps a somewhat controversial topic, and while there may not be agreement between two (or more) involved in the discussion, in most cases the disagreement was respectful. Unfortunately, that "agree to disagree" behavior has become far less frequent, with too much back and forth, usually in a not so respectful manner, becoming the norm rather than the exception. There are uncensored sites that allow, and perhaps encourage, that type of "lively" discussion. My boat owner days may be over, but I love coming on this site to enjoy all the things that attracted me here in the first place. Thank you Webmaster. Dave __________________ I Live Here... I am always UPTHESAUKEE !!!!

06-05-2020, 06:30 AM	#2
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06-05-2020, 07:40 AM	#5
Paugus Bay Resident Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Gilmanton, NH Posts: 754 Thanks: 136 Thanked 92 Times in 51 Posts	There are more than enough other places to discuss politics if that's what one wishes.

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06-05-2020, 09:17 AM	#8
Bear Guy Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: FL, Bear Is. Posts: 183 Thanks: 45 Thanked 69 Times in 40 Posts	When I joined this forum, I agreed to the site rules, which state, in part, "...messages directly related to Lakes Region topics, issues or activities..." I, for one, have and do appreciate the free resource for exchange of questions, answers, and information related to the Lake.

06-05-2020, 10:44 AM	#9
jbolty Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Posts: 660 Thanks: 318 Thanked 250 Times in 149 Posts	There is certainly validity in topics related to local politics that may affect the lakes region and members and a separate area might be ok for that but we have gotten along so far without it. National issues are better left elsewhere, IMHO and hopefully even the covid forum can be buried someday soon

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06-06-2020, 01:03 PM	#14
WJT2 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Foxborough MA Posts: 176 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 4 Thanked 50 Times in 31 Posts	Thank You Webmaster. Plenty of non-sense on Facebook for politics.

06-06-2020, 08:05 PM	#15
FlyingScot Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Tuftonboro and Sudbury, MA Posts: 2,338 Thanks: 1,245 Thanked 1,000 Times in 613 Posts	One interesting thing about this thread--if you look at the Thanks to Don--is that even many of those who regularly post political thoughts (myself included), don't want to be reading/posting political thoughts.

06-06-2020, 09:03 PM	#16
Winilyme Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2019 Location: Ice in = CT / Ice out = Winnipesaukee Posts: 471 Thanks: 129 Thanked 283 Times in 151 Posts	It’s nonsensical actually. Though I just joined this forum eight months ago, I’ve been reading it for five years. Even in that short period of time, I’ve noticed the deep polarization of opinion take root here. Of course, this is most prevalent when discussing national issues. It’s an unfortunate sign of the times. So much anger and disrespect. I applaud all efforts to keep non-lakes region politics off limits here. The forum should be a refuge from all that.