Crownline Boats

jazzman · 08-25-2023, 04:08 PM

Does anyone know who (if anyone), is picking up Crownline boats? Winisquam Marine now has Monterey.

ishoot308 · 08-25-2023, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by jazzman

Does anyone know who (if anyone), is picking up Crownline boats? Winisquam Marine now has Monterey.

Not sure who if anyone is picking up Crownline….Congrats to Winnisquam Marine for picking up Monterey though!…A real fine quality boat!!

Dan

codeman671 · 08-26-2023, 07:14 AM

Winnisquam also picked up Blackfin. That’s 2 lines from Irwin.

Do you know for sure that they are dropping/losing Crownline? We have a Finseeker and have been happy with it.

We have owned 3 Monterey’s in the past. Very much a fan of the brand, more so than Crownline.

jazzman · 08-26-2023, 05:19 PM

Yes, they're done with Crownline at the end of 2023. They will provide warranty service for the boats they've sold. I've been looking pretty seriously at a Finseeker 230 and hence my concern about where Crownline might be headed. I'd think they may have a hard time getting rid of their remaining Crownline inventory.

Loventhelake · 08-26-2023, 06:10 PM

Crownline is a fairly decent boat, Monterey on the other hand not so much. What do you expect for something assembled in Mexico.

Uncle Fun · 09-20-2023, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Loventhelake

Crownline is a fairly decent boat, Monterey on the other hand not so much. What do you expect for something assembled in Mexico.

@Loventhelake - Where did you come up with this fictitious info??
Monterey is built / assembled at their plant in Williston, Florida (USA).
They offer factory tours if you are ever down there and care to go.
They are a great boat and Winnisquam will do very well with them!

codeman671 · 09-20-2023, 12:40 PM

I didn't realize that Monterey actually builds Blackfin. I'd take a Monterey over a Crownline any day.

Descant · 09-20-2023, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by codeman671

I didn't realize that Monterey actually builds Blackfin. I'd take a Monterey over a Crownline any day.

Lots of overlap in the industry.
Brunswick owns major boating brands, including Sea Ray, Boston Whaler, Bayliner, Mercury Marine, Attwood, Lund, Crestliner, Mastervolt, MotorGuide, Harris Pontoons, Freedom Boat Club, Princecraft, Heyday, Lowe, Uttern, Quicksilver and CZone, among many others.

Uncle Fun · 09-20-2023, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by codeman671

I didn't realize that Monterey actually builds Blackfin. I'd take a Monterey over a Crownline any day.

Monterey and Blackfin are built on the same property in Florida, in buildings next to each other, and though they are different brands that cater to different types of boaters, they are owned by the same corporation.

When it comes to dealers, not every Monterey dealer is a Blackfin dealer, and not every Blackfin dealer is a Monterey dealer, however Winnisquam Marine / Winni Marine is both!

LIforrelaxin · 09-20-2023, 10:29 PM

Sounds like the Marina's are getting ready to do the brand shuffle again..... this happens from time to time.... Something rubs the marina, or the MFG the wrong way in the relationship, and there is a parting of the way..... Monterey was with Sheps before Irwin, and now is apparently off to Winni Marine.... Crownline Started at Trexler's and then I think went somewhere else before landing at Winni Marine... at this point I believe the longest pairings are likely Irwin with Sea-Ray, and Melvin Village with Four Winns......

With that said I would look for a bit more shuffling....

Cobaltdeadhead · 09-21-2023, 06:36 AM

I always found it interesting that there are two Cobalt dealers on the same lake. My understanding is that's pretty uncommon for the brand

thinkxingu · 09-21-2023, 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by LIforrelaxin

Sounds like the Marina's are getting ready to do the brand shuffle again..... this happens from time to time.... Something rubs the marina, or the MFG the wrong way in the relationship, and there is a parting of the way..... Monterey was with Sheps before Irwin, and now is apparently off to Winni Marine.... Crownline Started at Trexler's and then I think went somewhere else before landing at Winni Marine... at this point I believe the longest pairings are likely Irwin with Sea-Ray, and Melvin Village with Four Winns......

With that said I would look for a bit more shuffling....

One of the marinas we worked with when ordering our Harris a few years back mentioned that they were losing/walking away from a boat line because they were expected to order too many boats to maintain the relationship.

It sounded like those expectations had changed throughout their history together and that it was a bit of a bitter process.

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tis · 09-21-2023, 07:17 AM

I had a Crownline years ago as a runabout to go visit my parents. I loved it. I think I got it from Channel Marine. It is still going strong, just not here. We needed to have a few less boats.

8gv · 09-21-2023, 08:54 PM

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I had a Crownline years ago as a runabout to go visit my parents. I loved it. I think I got it from Channel Marine. It is still going strong, just not here. We needed to have a few less boats.

Blasphemy!

tis · 09-22-2023, 04:19 AM

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Originally Posted by 8gv

Blasphemy!

I know.....

LIforrelaxin · 09-22-2023, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by thinkxingu

One of the marinas we worked with when ordering our Harris a few years back mentioned that they were losing/walking away from a boat line because they were expected to order too many boats to maintain the relationship.

It sounded like those expectations had changed throughout their history together and that it was a bit of a bitter process.

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Yes that is generally what happens, to be an authorized dealer they generally have to purchase a package of boats.... And one of two things happen, the minimum package gets to costly, or contains to many boats that the marina doesn't believe they will be able to sell....

TiltonBB · 09-23-2023, 06:40 AM

That is similar to what happens in many businesses. Manufacturers, always looking to increase volume, force their products on retail outlets.

I know snowmobile, ATV, and watercraft manufacturers tell retailers for example: You took 120 of these this year so you need to take 140 next year. That happens even if that dealer still has 25 of last years model in stock at the end of the season. The manufacturing companies just keep pushing.

Sometimes that helps the consumer because the store needs to heavily discount items to move them and make room for incoming products.

08-25-2023, 04:08 PM	#1
jazzman Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Mont Vernon NH & Big Barndoor Island Posts: 321 Thanks: 4 Thanked 184 Times in 62 Posts	Crownline Boats Does anyone know who (if anyone), is picking up Crownline boats? Winisquam Marine now has Monterey.

08-26-2023, 06:10 PM	#5
Loventhelake Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2021 Posts: 58 Thanks: 3 Thanked 12 Times in 11 Posts	Crownline is a fairly decent boat, Monterey on the other hand not so much. What do you expect for something assembled in Mexico. Last edited by Loventhelake; 08-27-2023 at 08:40 PM. Reason: Spelling

09-20-2023, 10:29 PM	#10
LIforrelaxin Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Texas, Lake Ray Hubbard and NH, Long Island Winnipesaukee Posts: 2,855 Thanks: 1,033 Thanked 891 Times in 523 Posts	Sounds like the Marina's are getting ready to do the brand shuffle again..... this happens from time to time.... Something rubs the marina, or the MFG the wrong way in the relationship, and there is a parting of the way..... Monterey was with Sheps before Irwin, and now is apparently off to Winni Marine.... Crownline Started at Trexler's and then I think went somewhere else before landing at Winni Marine... at this point I believe the longest pairings are likely Irwin with Sea-Ray, and Melvin Village with Four Winns...... With that said I would look for a bit more shuffling.... __________________ Life is about how much time you can spend relaxing... I do it on an island that isn't really an island.....

08-26-2023, 07:14 AM	#3
codeman671 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,430 Thanks: 219 Thanked 793 Times in 473 Posts	Winnisquam also picked up Blackfin. That’s 2 lines from Irwin. Do you know for sure that they are dropping/losing Crownline? We have a Finseeker and have been happy with it. We have owned 3 Monterey’s in the past. Very much a fan of the brand, more so than Crownline.

08-26-2023, 05:19 PM	#4
jazzman Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Mont Vernon NH & Big Barndoor Island Posts: 321 Thanks: 4 Thanked 184 Times in 62 Posts	Yes, they're done with Crownline at the end of 2023. They will provide warranty service for the boats they've sold. I've been looking pretty seriously at a Finseeker 230 and hence my concern about where Crownline might be headed. I'd think they may have a hard time getting rid of their remaining Crownline inventory.

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09-20-2023, 12:40 PM	#7
codeman671 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,430 Thanks: 219 Thanked 793 Times in 473 Posts	I didn't realize that Monterey actually builds Blackfin. I'd take a Monterey over a Crownline any day.

09-21-2023, 06:36 AM	#11
Cobaltdeadhead Member Join Date: Sep 2021 Posts: 48 Thanks: 3 Thanked 38 Times in 17 Posts	I always found it interesting that there are two Cobalt dealers on the same lake. My understanding is that's pretty uncommon for the brand

09-21-2023, 07:17 AM	#13
tis Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 6,643 Thanks: 746 Thanked 1,439 Times in 1,000 Posts	I had a Crownline years ago as a runabout to go visit my parents. I loved it. I think I got it from Channel Marine. It is still going strong, just not here. We needed to have a few less boats.

09-23-2023, 06:40 AM	#17
TiltonBB Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Gilford, NH and Florida Posts: 2,965 Thanks: 679 Thanked 2,182 Times in 919 Posts	That is similar to what happens in many businesses. Manufacturers, always looking to increase volume, force their products on retail outlets. I know snowmobile, ATV, and watercraft manufacturers tell retailers for example: You took 120 of these this year so you need to take 140 next year. That happens even if that dealer still has 25 of last years model in stock at the end of the season. The manufacturing companies just keep pushing. Sometimes that helps the consumer because the store needs to heavily discount items to move them and make room for incoming products.