Sawyers

jnaughton · 03-07-2006, 12:27 AM

Any news on what is going to happen with Sawyers Property?

DRH · 03-07-2006, 07:50 AM

We haven't read anything in the local paper about Sawyers in several months. The last we read, the brothers who own it said they have a price in mind that they would sell for, but if they don't receive a suitable offer they will continue to run it into the foreseeable future.

CHSLTD · 03-07-2006, 10:04 AM

The for sale sign is still there, I had heard that there was interest from a gas station/convenience store.

Weirs guy · 03-07-2006, 11:55 AM

OMG, not another gas station, especially in place of Sawyers!

John A. Birdsall · 03-07-2006, 12:29 PM

good chance to bring in some foreigners to run it. Maybe they will eventually get a green card. Will be a shame to have gasoline instead of banana ice cream, their ought to be a law. Someone get the legislature on this instead of on boat speed. Now if sawyers were closer to the lake maybe that would be a cause to speed.

Rinkerfam · 03-07-2006, 11:56 PM

My understanding was that Irving was the interested party. I haven't been able to confrim that, but I hope it isn't true. What a negative change to the landscape/business-scape that would be!!

jrc · 03-08-2006, 08:56 AM

There was an article last year in one of the local papers. The owners said they only wanted to sell to people who would continue the business.

So based on my memory of that article, that's their desire. I'm not sure that they won't cave in, if the place doesn't sell or someone offers them a ton of money for the place. A seasonal restaurant is probably not the most profitable use for that site.

A gas station may face other hurdles if the fight over the Crossroads site is any indicator. Last year a gas station plan for that spot was quashed for environmental concerns.

Weirs guy · 03-08-2006, 12:46 PM

Well, the crossroads location may have been a little much. Theres what, MAYBE a few hundred of us there during the winter? So yeah, we need 2 gas stations. Across the street from each other no less. I know it would be busy during the summer, but still, its 5 minutes to the Gilford Mobile. Now if Sawyers is a gas station, thats another one 5 minutes up the road....

Man I hope they stay open as Sawyers. Or maybe Waldo Peppers II?

jrc · 03-08-2006, 02:05 PM

My point on Crossroads was simply that anytime you mix gasoline and water you have an environmental issue. Sawyer's is pretty close to the little stream that leads to Saunders Bay. Any oil company would have to consider the cost of a legal fight to place a gas station there. That makes the spot less valuable.

Very few places in this country "need" another gas station, but that alone doesn't mean it's not good business to build one.

Personally, I hope something happens. The current owners don't seem to have their heart in the place anymore. As someone who grew up in that business, unless you love it, it's can be exhausting miserable work.

codeman671 · 03-08-2006, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by DRH

We haven't read anything in the local paper about Sawyers in several months. The last we read, the brothers who own it said they have a price in mind that they would sell for, but if they don't receive a suitable offer they will continue to run it into the foreseeable future.

It is currently priced at $1.6mil and appears to have been on since last summer due to the "era" of the mls#.

CHSLTD · 03-08-2006, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Rinkerfam

My understanding was that Irving was the interested party. I haven't been able to confrim that, but I hope it isn't true. What a negative change to the landscape/business-scape that would be!!

Thats what I heard...Also heard that there may not be enough land for the type of station Irving wants to do.

Aquadeziac · 03-08-2006, 08:12 PM

I seem to remember a Citizen article around Sept saying a wetlands problem quashed the Irving deal. They (Sawyers) did make the comment of only wanting to sell to someone who would keep it much the same as it is. There was someone (name escapes me right now) who expressed intrested, plans remained for a seasonal operation but maybe open a few weeks longer. Sound familiar to anyone? Any help here?

Cookie · 03-09-2006, 12:58 AM

What a very foolish response about foreigners. I recall that was someone from Conn. I was raised here and you my dear also are known as a foreigner so untill you'r a resident you should probally just keep those comments to yourself.

SAMIAM · 03-09-2006, 06:34 AM

Sawyers would be a perfect spot for Peppers expansion......a ready made addition and they'd run it just as good as ever.Hmmmm

fatlazyless · 03-09-2006, 07:41 AM

Recently. Cumberland Farms has been running large poltical ads in the Laconia Daily Sun trying to educate Gilford voters as to why they should vote down a Gilford zoning change that will protect the Gilford underground water aquifer from possible gasoline leakage from underground gasoline storage tanks. I do not know all the specifics and ins & outs of this bill and there are plenty. Doesn't it go to a vote on next tuesday March 14 as a question for the Gilford voters? Cumberland Farms has purchased a property close to Kar Kraft, Gilford Well & Gilford Wal-Mart for use as a Cumby store & gasoline. This new Cumby property is directly across from the new and not yet built Hannaford's and Lowe's. Cumberland Farms owns Gulf Gasoline. Apparently, the proposed Gilford water aquifer protection zoning change would put a big STOP to their gasoline plans.

Having once tasted a mouthfull of gasoline while syphening gas out of a Honda 350 motorcycle, about 35 years ago, I well remember that gasoline tastes incredibly TERRIBLE. It is so bad and causes severe and very strong reactions and takes maybe one hour of gargling milk to eliminate the gasoline taste, as I recall.

Maybe, the Sawyer's location is also within the proposed Gilford water aquifer protection area?

Already, there are at least three large gas stations on that busy commercial street, NH Route 11C, the huge Mobil, a Sunoco, and a Getty. How many more gas stations does that area really need, anyway!

Pepper · 03-09-2006, 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SAMIAM

Sawyers would be a perfect spot for Peppers expansion......a ready made addition and they'd run it just as good as ever.Hmmmm

Anybody remember that tune from the Wizard of Oz?

There's a place that is just perfect,
A location quite divine,
If I only had the funds ...

Pepper · 03-09-2006, 10:47 AM

FLL - I think you may be precisely on target with your guess that the Sawyers location is also in very close proximity to that Aquifer. I recall (somewhat fuzzily) a bit of buzz over the winter which indicated that property could not be utilized for any fueling.

I also recall reading that the Sawyer family really did not wish to sell unless the buyer intended to continue with current use, and BRAVO to the Sawyers for that!

I would truly hate to see that property change in any way - Sawyers is an institution, and visiting there is a summer ritual for thousands. Besides - their ice cream is divine!

03-07-2006, 12:27 AM	#1
jnaughton Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Massachuesettes Posts: 10 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Sawyers Any news on what is going to happen with Sawyers Property? __________________ John J. Naughton IV

03-07-2006, 07:50 AM	#2
DRH Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Meredith, NH Posts: 1,686 Thanks: 1,199 Thanked 675 Times in 178 Posts	We haven't read anything in the local paper about Sawyers in several months. The last we read, the brothers who own it said they have a price in mind that they would sell for, but if they don't receive a suitable offer they will continue to run it into the foreseeable future. __________________ DRH

03-07-2006, 10:04 AM	#3
CHSLTD Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Gilford Posts: 93 Thanks: 23 Thanked 5 Times in 3 Posts	Gas Station? The for sale sign is still there, I had heard that there was interest from a gas station/convenience store.

03-07-2006, 11:55 AM	#4
Weirs guy Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Weirs Beach, NH Posts: 1,067 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	OMG, not another gas station, especially in place of Sawyers! __________________ Is it bikeweek yet? Now?

03-07-2006, 11:56 PM	#6
Rinkerfam Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 268 Thanks: 0 Thanked 14 Times in 8 Posts	My understanding was that Irving was the interested party. I haven't been able to confrim that, but I hope it isn't true. What a negative change to the landscape/business-scape that would be!! __________________ Education is hanging around 'til you've caught on - Frost

03-07-2006, 12:29 PM	#5
John A. Birdsall Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Norwich, CT Posts: 599 Thanks: 27 Thanked 51 Times in 35 Posts	good chance to bring in some foreigners to run it. Maybe they will eventually get a green card. Will be a shame to have gasoline instead of banana ice cream, their ought to be a law. Someone get the legislature on this instead of on boat speed. Now if sawyers were closer to the lake maybe that would be a cause to speed.

03-08-2006, 08:56 AM	#7
jrc Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: NH Posts: 2,689 Thanks: 33 Thanked 439 Times in 249 Posts	There was an article last year in one of the local papers. The owners said they only wanted to sell to people who would continue the business. So based on my memory of that article, that's their desire. I'm not sure that they won't cave in, if the place doesn't sell or someone offers them a ton of money for the place. A seasonal restaurant is probably not the most profitable use for that site. A gas station may face other hurdles if the fight over the Crossroads site is any indicator. Last year a gas station plan for that spot was quashed for environmental concerns.

03-08-2006, 12:46 PM	#8
Weirs guy Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Weirs Beach, NH Posts: 1,067 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Well, the crossroads location may have been a little much. Theres what, MAYBE a few hundred of us there during the winter? So yeah, we need 2 gas stations. Across the street from each other no less. I know it would be busy during the summer, but still, its 5 minutes to the Gilford Mobile. Now if Sawyers is a gas station, thats another one 5 minutes up the road.... Man I hope they stay open as Sawyers. Or maybe Waldo Peppers II? __________________ Is it bikeweek yet? Now?

03-08-2006, 02:05 PM	#9
jrc Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: NH Posts: 2,689 Thanks: 33 Thanked 439 Times in 249 Posts	My point on Crossroads was simply that anytime you mix gasoline and water you have an environmental issue. Sawyer's is pretty close to the little stream that leads to Saunders Bay. Any oil company would have to consider the cost of a legal fight to place a gas station there. That makes the spot less valuable. Very few places in this country "need" another gas station, but that alone doesn't mean it's not good business to build one. Personally, I hope something happens. The current owners don't seem to have their heart in the place anymore. As someone who grew up in that business, unless you love it, it's can be exhausting miserable work.

03-08-2006, 08:12 PM	#12
Aquadeziac Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Concord NH Posts: 239 Thanks: 19 Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts	I seem to remember a Citizen article around Sept saying a wetlands problem quashed the Irving deal. They (Sawyers) did make the comment of only wanting to sell to someone who would keep it much the same as it is. There was someone (name escapes me right now) who expressed intrested, plans remained for a seasonal operation but maybe open a few weeks longer. Sound familiar to anyone? Any help here? __________________ "He who dies with the most toys wins"

03-09-2006, 12:58 AM	#13
Cookie Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 17 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	What will be will be! What a very foolish response about foreigners. I recall that was someone from Conn. I was raised here and you my dear also are known as a foreigner so untill you'r a resident you should probally just keep those comments to yourself.

03-09-2006, 06:34 AM	#14
SAMIAM Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Moultonborough Posts: 2,891 Thanks: 334 Thanked 1,673 Times in 584 Posts	I've got it! Sawyers would be a perfect spot for Peppers expansion......a ready made addition and they'd run it just as good as ever.Hmmmm

03-09-2006, 07:41 AM	#15
fatlazyless Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 8,734 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 300 Thanked 1,005 Times in 733 Posts	...water aquifer issues! Recently. Cumberland Farms has been running large poltical ads in the Laconia Daily Sun trying to educate Gilford voters as to why they should vote down a Gilford zoning change that will protect the Gilford underground water aquifer from possible gasoline leakage from underground gasoline storage tanks. I do not know all the specifics and ins & outs of this bill and there are plenty. Doesn't it go to a vote on next tuesday March 14 as a question for the Gilford voters? Cumberland Farms has purchased a property close to Kar Kraft, Gilford Well & Gilford Wal-Mart for use as a Cumby store & gasoline. This new Cumby property is directly across from the new and not yet built Hannaford's and Lowe's. Cumberland Farms owns Gulf Gasoline. Apparently, the proposed Gilford water aquifer protection zoning change would put a big STOP to their gasoline plans. Having once tasted a mouthfull of gasoline while syphening gas out of a Honda 350 motorcycle, about 35 years ago, I well remember that gasoline tastes incredibly TERRIBLE. It is so bad and causes severe and very strong reactions and takes maybe one hour of gargling milk to eliminate the gasoline taste, as I recall. Maybe, the Sawyer's location is also within the proposed Gilford water aquifer protection area? Already, there are at least three large gas stations on that busy commercial street, NH Route 11C, the huge Mobil, a Sunoco, and a Getty. How many more gas stations does that area really need, anyway! Last edited by fatlazyless; 03-09-2006 at 08:52 AM. Reason: edit

03-09-2006, 10:47 AM	#17
Pepper Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Laconia, NH Posts: 1,284 Thanks: 409 Thanked 155 Times in 40 Posts	FLL - I think you may be precisely on target with your guess that the Sawyers location is also in very close proximity to that Aquifer. I recall (somewhat fuzzily) a bit of buzz over the winter which indicated that property could not be utilized for any fueling. I also recall reading that the Sawyer family really did not wish to sell unless the buyer intended to continue with current use, and BRAVO to the Sawyers for that! I would truly hate to see that property change in any way - Sawyers is an institution, and visiting there is a summer ritual for thousands. Besides - their ice cream is divine! __________________ Never waste time lamenting what was. Simply celebrate what is!