Great News From Patrick's

trfour · 03-12-2006, 09:38 PM

I found this important article on Patrick's website that I think everyone would be interested in reading.

http://www.patrickspub.com/smoke-freedetails.htm

upthesaukee · 03-12-2006, 10:28 PM

Patrick's certainly tried to make sure that both smokers and nonsmokers could co-exist in the restaurant, and it seemed to work pretty well. But I'm sure there were some staff who were being affected, and even when the equipment worked its best, there seemed to be a trace of cigarette smoke in the nonsmoking area of the "bar area". The only real excape was into the other room, and you still had to go through the bar area, a problem for some folks (not my wife or I).

I applaud Alan & Jeff for their previous efforts, and for this current one. I'm sure it was a difficult decision, and I hope all their customers understand.

Always has been one of our favorite places to eat in Gilford, and will continue to be.

Thanks, T, for sharing with us.

Mee-n-Mac · 03-12-2006, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by upthesaukee

{snip} I applaud Alan & Jeff for their previous efforts, and for this current one. I'm sure it was a difficult decision, and I hope all their customers understand.

Always has been one of our favorite places to eat in Gilford, and will continue to be.

Thanks, T, for sharing with us.

That is an interesting decision. I wonder if they couldn't have accomodated smokers on the "new" outside patio in lieu of being totally non-smoking. ? I do I give kudos for their effort ($$/not smoking). That's a twist I've not seen before.

fatlazyless · 03-13-2006, 10:47 AM

If what was in a cigarette were only tobacco, then maybe the first attempt could have been successfull. However, the tobacco in cigarettes gets treated with a small amount of ammonia so it will get into the porous spongy tissues inside the human lungs faster and then into the blood and brain. Everyone knows what ammonia smells like and how it is a strong and penetrating solvent. Very effective for a cleaning solution. One reason why the tobacco odor gets into fabric, rugs, unfinsished wood, clothes, hair, lungs is the ammonia, "so step up to a Salem for a spring time breath of freshness."

trfour · 03-13-2006, 04:57 PM

Hi Dave,

I think for all of us whom enjoy dining at Patrick's, it was the right decision. Allan and Jeff have always done a great job there, and the staff as well.

Mee-n-Mac,

Even in open air situations, how can I explain this,.... Have you ever been stuck behind a dump truck with hot tar in it and having to breath those obnoxious fumes, or being behind an older car with an emissions malfunction?.... Well, some folks are allergic to cigarette smoke and they simply can not talerate it. Most of the wait staff at Patrick's do not smoke, until they came to work, before this new policy.
Our own RG can add to this.

Thanks,
T.

sum-r breeze · 03-13-2006, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Mee-n-Mac

That is an interesting decision. I wonder if they couldn't have accomodated smokers on the "new" outside patio in lieu of being totally non-smoking. ? I do I give kudos for their effort ($$/not smoking). That's a twist I've not seen before.

Mac,

I think you can still smoke out on the patio. The Press Release said "inside the restaurant"

The Breeze

Woodsy · 03-14-2006, 08:38 AM

I don't smoke... and I really don't care for it! I prefer a smoke-free experience.

However, I don't think the state should ban smoking in restaurants or bars. It should be up to the individual owners of the restaurant to make that decision. Cigarettes are still legal to buy, and the state makes ALOT of tax $$$ off of selling them. If you don't want people smoking, then outlaw cigarettes! The next thing you know, beer will still be legal, but you can't drink beer in a bar!

Other smoke free restaurants in the area... Willow's, Crazy Gringo, and rumor has it Paradise Beach Club. Although all bets are off when it comes to Bike Week...

Less governement, more personal responsibility!

Woodsy

trfour · 03-14-2006, 02:35 PM

Hi Woodsy,

"Less government, more personal responsibility."

Allan and Jeff do care, and very clearly have steped up to the plate, in regard to the well being of nonsmokers, and smokers alike!!

Thank you.

03-12-2006, 09:38 PM	#1
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upthesaukee Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Alton Bay Posts: 5,593 Blog Entries: 2 Thanks: 2,445 Thanked 1,977 Times in 1,078 Posts	A tough decision I'm sure Patrick's certainly tried to make sure that both smokers and nonsmokers could co-exist in the restaurant, and it seemed to work pretty well. But I'm sure there were some staff who were being affected, and even when the equipment worked its best, there seemed to be a trace of cigarette smoke in the nonsmoking area of the "bar area". The only real excape was into the other room, and you still had to go through the bar area, a problem for some folks (not my wife or I). I applaud Alan & Jeff for their previous efforts, and for this current one. I'm sure it was a difficult decision, and I hope all their customers understand. Always has been one of our favorite places to eat in Gilford, and will continue to be. Thanks, T, for sharing with us. __________________ I Live Here... I am always UPTHESAUKEE !!!!

03-13-2006, 10:47 AM	#4
fatlazyless Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 8,706 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 300 Thanked 993 Times in 724 Posts	....ammonia & cigarettes If what was in a cigarette were only tobacco, then maybe the first attempt could have been successfull. However, the tobacco in cigarettes gets treated with a small amount of ammonia so it will get into the porous spongy tissues inside the human lungs faster and then into the blood and brain. Everyone knows what ammonia smells like and how it is a strong and penetrating solvent. Very effective for a cleaning solution. One reason why the tobacco odor gets into fabric, rugs, unfinsished wood, clothes, hair, lungs is the ammonia, "so step up to a Salem for a spring time breath of freshness."

03-13-2006, 04:57 PM	#5
trfour Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Lakes, Central NH. and Dallas/Fort Worth TX. Posts: 3,694 Blog Entries: 3 Thanks: 3,069 Thanked 472 Times in 236 Posts	Hi Dave, I think for all of us whom enjoy dining at Patrick's, it was the right decision. Allan and Jeff have always done a great job there, and the staff as well. Mee-n-Mac, Even in open air situations, how can I explain this,.... Have you ever been stuck behind a dump truck with hot tar in it and having to breath those obnoxious fumes, or being behind an older car with an emissions malfunction?.... Well, some folks are allergic to cigarette smoke and they simply can not talerate it. Most of the wait staff at Patrick's do not smoke, until they came to work, before this new policy. Our own RG can add to this. Thanks, T. __________________ *trfour* Always Remember, The Best Safety Device In The Boat, or on a PWC Snowmobile etc., Is YOU! Safe sledding tips and much more; http://www.snowmobile.org/snowmobiling-safety.html

03-14-2006, 08:38 AM	#7
Woodsy Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Weirs Beach Posts: 1,961 Thanks: 80 Thanked 976 Times in 437 Posts	I don't smoke... and I really don't care for it! I prefer a smoke-free experience. However, I don't think the state should ban smoking in restaurants or bars. It should be up to the individual owners of the restaurant to make that decision. Cigarettes are still legal to buy, and the state makes ALOT of tax $$$ off of selling them. If you don't want people smoking, then outlaw cigarettes! The next thing you know, beer will still be legal, but you can't drink beer in a bar! Other smoke free restaurants in the area... Willow's, Crazy Gringo, and rumor has it Paradise Beach Club. Although all bets are off when it comes to Bike Week... Less governement, more personal responsibility! Woodsy __________________ The only way to eliminate ignorant behavior is through education. You can't fix stupid.

03-14-2006, 02:35 PM	#8
trfour Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Lakes, Central NH. and Dallas/Fort Worth TX. Posts: 3,694 Blog Entries: 3 Thanks: 3,069 Thanked 472 Times in 236 Posts	This thread is all about... Hi Woodsy, "Less government, more personal responsibility." Allan and Jeff do care, and very clearly have steped up to the plate, in regard to the well being of nonsmokers, and smokers alike!! Thank you. __________________ *trfour* Always Remember, The Best Safety Device In The Boat, or on a PWC Snowmobile etc., Is YOU! Safe sledding tips and much more; http://www.snowmobile.org/snowmobiling-safety.html Last edited by trfour; 03-14-2006 at 11:25 PM.