How many lake front homes?

Lakegeezer · 11-15-2006, 07:14 AM

One of our guests this summer asked how many lake front homes are built on Winnipesaukee. It was fun to discuss the number over a glass of wine, and we estimated that it must be about two thousand, but its like guessing jelly beans in a jar. Our guess could be way off. Are there any official statistics or ways of calculating a somewhat more accurate guess.

TomC · 11-15-2006, 07:47 AM

figure out length of shore front (don't forget islands - that'll add a lot). Then estimate average lake lot frontage (i'd go with 125' or so). Keep the overall frontage (OF) and lot frontage (LF) consistent unit-wise (miles, feet, whatver) and divide OF/LF for number estimate of lots, and hence homes...

Rocky · 11-15-2006, 08:14 AM

What is there 182 mi. of shore line?

codeman671 · 11-15-2006, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Lakegeezer

One of our guests this summer asked how many lake front homes are built on Winnipesaukee. It was fun to discuss the number over a glass of wine, and we estimated that it must be about two thousand, but its like guessing jelly beans in a jar. Our guess could be way off. Are there any official statistics or ways of calculating a somewhat more accurate guess.

Just considering island properties alone I would say there must be upwards of two thousand without touching the mainland. Just look at Rattlesnake and bear alone, there are probably a few hundred on these two islands alone. I would think that Rocky's formula would be a closer figure than two thousand, it may even be on the light side..

Paugus Bay Resident · 11-15-2006, 09:29 AM

Don't forget about all the condos.

Bear Islander · 11-15-2006, 09:45 AM

The lake has 282 miles of shoreline. If you estimate one home every 300' that is almost 5,000 homes.

If the average value is $300,000 that comes to 1.5 Billion dollars.

Estimates are my own.

codeman671 · 11-15-2006, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Bear Islander

The lake has 282 miles of shoreline. If you estimate one home every 300' that is almost 5,000 homes.

If the average value is $300,000 that comes to 1.5 Billion dollars.

Estimates are my own.

I would think that on average 300' of frontage may be a bit much and $300k per place (what on the mainland is waterfront at $300k these days other than some condos?) may be a bit low but I think that we all agree it is a lot of $$$$ !

LibertySnake · 11-15-2006, 04:28 PM

From the Bizer's records there are 178 miles of shoreline on the mainland and roughly 100 1/2 miles on the islands. If you figure one house, dwelling, or structure every 125' of shoreline there would be 7,518 houses on the mainland and 4,245 houses on the islands. That seems to be a bit higher then some wine induced guesstimates. There are obvious flaws in this equation, but driving around the lake it does not seem to far fetched.

As for property values using our flawed equation...
Figure $300K for an island house = $1.2 Billion
and
$600K for a mainland house = $4.5 Billion

As my Italian friend says, "that is some serious fazool"

TomC · 11-15-2006, 04:38 PM

That seems reasonable. I suspected 2000 was way too low - if lakefront homes were such a rarity prices would be even higher..

gtxrider · 11-16-2006, 01:22 PM

There are two many! There must be a bazillion houses around the lake.

Big ones, little ones, old ones , new ones, green ones, blue ones...... Dr. Seuss?

The Big Kahuna · 11-16-2006, 04:04 PM

There are 10,847 lake front homes on the lake, this includes condos.

Hermit Cover · 11-16-2006, 11:08 PM

gtxrider, you are so close. According to the experts a bazillion equals 10,850 so according to Kahuna's numbers..... you were sooooo close. Good guess!!

Weirs guy · 11-17-2006, 05:34 AM

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Originally Posted by gtxrider

There are two many! There must be a bazillion houses around the lake.

Big ones, little ones, old ones , new ones, green ones, blue ones...... Dr. Seuss?

You cannot live there with a goat, you can live here on a boat....

10,000? Sounds reasonable.

kunamola · 11-17-2006, 09:30 PM

You can live there with a mouse...
and even live there with a louse...

11-15-2006, 07:14 AM	#1
Lakegeezer Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Moultonboro, NH Posts: 1,677 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 353 Thanked 639 Times in 290 Posts	How many lake front homes? One of our guests this summer asked how many lake front homes are built on Winnipesaukee. It was fun to discuss the number over a glass of wine, and we estimated that it must be about two thousand, but its like guessing jelly beans in a jar. Our guess could be way off. Are there any official statistics or ways of calculating a somewhat more accurate guess. __________________ -lg

11-15-2006, 07:47 AM	#2
TomC Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Lakes Region Posts: 657 Thanks: 19 Thanked 81 Times in 53 Posts	i'd figure it like this: figure out length of shore front (don't forget islands - that'll add a lot). Then estimate average lake lot frontage (i'd go with 125' or so). Keep the overall frontage (OF) and lot frontage (LF) consistent unit-wise (miles, feet, whatver) and divide OF/LF for number estimate of lots, and hence homes...

11-15-2006, 04:28 PM	#8
LibertySnake Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: PA Physically, NH Mentally Posts: 9 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	According to the BIZER From the Bizer's records there are 178 miles of shoreline on the mainland and roughly 100 1/2 miles on the islands. If you figure one house, dwelling, or structure every 125' of shoreline there would be 7,518 houses on the mainland and 4,245 houses on the islands. That seems to be a bit higher then some wine induced guesstimates. There are obvious flaws in this equation, but driving around the lake it does not seem to far fetched. As for property values using our flawed equation... Figure $300K for an island house = $1.2 Billion and $600K for a mainland house = $4.5 Billion As my Italian friend says, "that is some serious fazool"

11-15-2006, 04:38 PM	#9
TomC Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Lakes Region Posts: 657 Thanks: 19 Thanked 81 Times in 53 Posts	so the answer is roughly +/-10K... That seems reasonable. I suspected 2000 was way too low - if lakefront homes were such a rarity prices would be even higher..

11-16-2006, 01:22 PM	#10
gtxrider Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Piscataway, NJ Posts: 1,030 Thanks: 2 Thanked 46 Times in 24 Posts	zillions! There are two many! There must be a bazillion houses around the lake. Big ones, little ones, old ones , new ones, green ones, blue ones...... Dr. Seuss? Last edited by gtxrider; 11-16-2006 at 01:23 PM. Reason: typo

11-15-2006, 08:14 AM	#3
Rocky Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 31 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	What is there 182 mi. of shore line?

11-15-2006, 09:29 AM	#5
Paugus Bay Resident Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Gilmanton, NH Posts: 754 Thanks: 136 Thanked 93 Times in 51 Posts	Don't forget about all the condos.

11-15-2006, 09:45 AM	#6
Bear Islander Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Bear Island Posts: 1,762 Thanks: 32 Thanked 441 Times in 207 Posts	The lake has 282 miles of shoreline. If you estimate one home every 300' that is almost 5,000 homes. If the average value is $300,000 that comes to 1.5 Billion dollars. Estimates are my own.

11-16-2006, 04:04 PM	#11
The Big Kahuna Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Gilford Posts: 148 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Number of houses There are 10,847 lake front homes on the lake, this includes condos.

11-16-2006, 11:08 PM	#12
Hermit Cover Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Hermit Cove Posts: 354 Thanks: 20 Thanked 68 Times in 40 Posts	One Bazillion equals..... gtxrider, you are so close. According to the experts a bazillion equals 10,850 so according to Kahuna's numbers..... you were sooooo close. Good guess!!

11-17-2006, 09:30 PM	#14
kunamola Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Northern Virginia and Melvin Village, NH Posts: 44 Thanks: 3 Thanked 4 Times in 3 Posts	Dr. S. You can live there with a mouse... and even live there with a louse...