Early Daylight Saving's Time

Finder · 03-07-2007, 09:55 PM

Think the extra hour of sunlight will hasten the ice melt?

GusMan · 03-07-2007, 10:09 PM

Bahahaha! Good one...

Yes, I absolutely believe the lake will notice the time difference and will be iced out in no time!

I'm going to get my boat ready this weekend!

Cheers...

Gusman

ITD · 03-08-2007, 03:36 PM

No, but it sure will confuse the chipmunks and squirrels.

Island Life · 03-08-2007, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ITD

No, but it sure will confuse the chipmunks and squirrels.

And the computers, apparently. If you haven't looked into this, you might want to before Saturday night.

webmaster · 03-08-2007, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Island Life

And the computers, apparently. If you haven't looked into this, you might want to before Saturday night.

If you are running Windows XP or Vista, Automatic Updates will patch the problem. If Automatic Updates are off manually run Windows Update from IE's Tools menu.

If you are using a Mac see this page: http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=305056

Jonas Pilot · 03-08-2007, 05:59 PM

Thanks Webmaster!

CanisLupusArctos · 03-08-2007, 11:27 PM

As far as I know, mankind has never been able to add any more daylight to the day. All DST does is shift the daylight hours from morning to evening and I don't think nature has ever cared what our clocks say. However, it'll be great for people who like to see sunrises but don't like to get up early. Starting Sunday morning we're going to have sunrises just after 7:00 a.m.... getting going in the morning will have that "December" feeling all over again.

JTA · 03-09-2007, 08:31 AM

The extra hour is moved from the morning and placed into the afternoon. Thus, the warmer afternoon sun-hour will hasten ice-out. Wait and see!

Aquadeziac · 03-09-2007, 01:56 PM

If you are not running XP or Vista go to this address:

ftp://ftp.microsoft.com/services/tec...FIG/TZEDIT.EXE

Download the EXE file (direct from Microsoft) when you open it you will be able to manually set your DST parameters. It is supposed to work on all Windows platforms back to 95. I downloaded it for my Win 98Se. I reset my parameters and will see Sunday morning.

RI Swamp Yankee · 03-09-2007, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by CanisLupusArctos

....... getting going in the morning will have that "December" feeling all over again.

Ah yes, I am looking forward to that extra hour of morning darkness as I get ready to go to work.

LadyJane · 03-10-2007, 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Finder

Think the extra hour of sunlight will hasten the ice melt?

Hey, that's a good thought!! my spring visit to the lake last year was April 19- 22. The ice was gone and the "change of season" spirit was high. Boats were out and folks were in shorts and t-shirts. Ice Out was early. Don't think I'll see that this year, but....thinkin of heading up the last week in March anyhow. Any day at the lake is good.

RLW · 03-11-2007, 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Aquadeziac

If you are not running XP or Vista go to this address:

ftp://ftp.microsoft.com/services/tec...FIG/TZEDIT.EXE

Download the EXE file (direct from Microsoft) when you open it you will be able to manually set your DST parameters. It is supposed to work on all Windows platforms back to 95. I downloaded it for my Win 98Se. I reset my parameters and will see Sunday morning.

My XP just did it's usual thing and kept on ticking with the correct time without doing a ding-dong thing to it. What was all the fuzz about for the past year to a month all about.

Island Life · 03-11-2007, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by RLW

My XP just did it's usual thing and kept on ticking with the correct time without doing a ding-dong thing to it. What was all the fuzz about for the past year to a month all about.

I've been told that you won't notice much at first but the problems will escalate as time goes on.

RLW · 03-11-2007, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Island Life

I've been told that you won't notice much at first but the problems will escalate as time goes on.

I guess if that happens, one just goes and makes the change maunaully. Guess that is no big deal as all it does for me is put time on the e-mail stuff. I and most homeowners really do not have time sensitive programs. Question: why should it get worse once it has been set?

Island Life · 03-11-2007, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by RLW

I guess if that happens, one just goes and makes the change maunaully. Guess that is no big deal as all it does for me is put time on the e-mail stuff. I and most homeowners really do not have time sensitive programs. Question: why should it get worse once it has been set?

Some kind of snowballing effect. I don't really know; I'm not a computer person. And I don't know what you mean by "once it has been set." All I know is what someone told me: if you don't download a "patch," the timing will be off and it will get worse and worse over time. Just passing along what I heard.

GWC... · 03-11-2007, 12:57 PM

Hope your bunny is up to the task...

http://isc.sans.org/diary.html?storyid=2424

Aquadeziac · 03-11-2007, 02:04 PM

I am happy to say that the TZEDIT.EXE file from Microsoft worked like a charm on my Win98. When I got on this morning there was a notice telling me that Windows had automatically adjusted for Daylight Savings Time. I understand that Vista and recent XP systems are made to adjust automatically, while early XP and prior need a "patch". A "patch" being nothing more than a term for this TZEDIT.EXE (which you notice comes direct from Microsoft) or any other Time Zone EDITing program. All this program does is let you set your own parameters as to when you want the time changes made instead of locking you to 1st Sat in April and last Sat in Oct. Amazing how so much hoo-haa is given to such a simple issue. My Computer Geek is still rolling on the floor laughing about the "snowball effect" thing.

SIKSUKR · 03-12-2007, 10:23 AM

Ok,I tried to load a patch for Windows ME last week and was unsuccessfull.Does anyone have the link for that?

Island Girl · 03-12-2007, 11:46 AM

Since we are knee deep in this stuff at work:

Servers:
Outlook with Exchange servers in the background did not update appointments created prior to our people applying the DST update to Exchange.. no fix yet.

Windows 2000 servers have an issue, here is the fix:
We have found an issue with Windows 2000 Servers that did not take the daylight savings time. All of them had the registry hack that was required but the time never changed. We tried manually moving the time but it would always revert back. After some investigation on Microsoft’s site we have found the fix and applied it to all these servers. They all appear to be keeping there time correctly. For those who have inquisitive minds the fix was as follows:fficeffice" />>>
If the machine had the registry hack, simply double click on the time in the lower right hand corner. Select the Time Zone tab at the top and change the time zone to something other then what is listed, to something like Greenland, ffice:smarttags" />lace w:st="on">Azoreslace>, etc.. Hit apply. Change the Time Zone back to the original setting and hit Apply again. It should now display the correct time. If you select the Date & Time tab at the top you will now notice your Current time zone says Eastern Daylight Time as opposed to Eastern Standard Time.

Windows XP desktops:

Microsoft has an update on their site to apply... a few of our machines did not work with this... update is being manually applied.

IG

03-07-2007, 09:55 PM	#1
Finder Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 27 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts	Early Daylight Saving's Time Think the extra hour of sunlight will hasten the ice melt?

03-08-2007, 11:27 PM	#7
CanisLupusArctos Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Center Harbor Posts: 1,049 Thanks: 15 Thanked 472 Times in 107 Posts	What extra hour? As far as I know, mankind has never been able to add any more daylight to the day. All DST does is shift the daylight hours from morning to evening and I don't think nature has ever cared what our clocks say. However, it'll be great for people who like to see sunrises but don't like to get up early. Starting Sunday morning we're going to have sunrises just after 7:00 a.m.... getting going in the morning will have that "December" feeling all over again.

03-09-2007, 08:31 AM	#8
JTA Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Fort Pierce, Florida Posts: 233 Thanks: 34 Thanked 25 Times in 21 Posts	Yes, but.... The extra hour is moved from the morning and placed into the afternoon. Thus, the warmer afternoon sun-hour will hasten ice-out. Wait and see!

03-09-2007, 01:56 PM	#9
Aquadeziac Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Concord NH Posts: 239 Thanks: 19 Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts	Those NOT running XP or Vista If you are not running XP or Vista go to this address: ftp://ftp.microsoft.com/services/tec...FIG/TZEDIT.EXE Download the EXE file (direct from Microsoft) when you open it you will be able to manually set your DST parameters. It is supposed to work on all Windows platforms back to 95. I downloaded it for my Win 98Se. I reset my parameters and will see Sunday morning. __________________ "He who dies with the most toys wins"

03-11-2007, 12:57 PM	#16
GWC... Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 1,325 Thanks: 5 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Reminder... Hope your bunny is up to the task... http://isc.sans.org/diary.html?storyid=2424 __________________ [Assume funny, clever sig is here. Laugh and reflect... ]

03-07-2007, 10:09 PM	#2
GusMan Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 133 Thanks: 1 Thanked 45 Times in 26 Posts	Bahahaha! Good one... Yes, I absolutely believe the lake will notice the time difference and will be iced out in no time! I'm going to get my boat ready this weekend! Cheers... Gusman

03-08-2007, 03:36 PM	#3
ITD Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Moultonboro, NH Posts: 2,929 Thanks: 477 Thanked 691 Times in 387 Posts	No, but it sure will confuse the chipmunks and squirrels.

03-08-2007, 05:59 PM	#6
Jonas Pilot Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Wolfeboro, New Hampshire is my home, 24-7-365 Posts: 1,686 Thanks: 1,047 Thanked 336 Times in 189 Posts	Thanks Webmaster!

03-11-2007, 02:04 PM	#17
Aquadeziac Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Concord NH Posts: 239 Thanks: 19 Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts	I am happy to say that the TZEDIT.EXE file from Microsoft worked like a charm on my Win98. When I got on this morning there was a notice telling me that Windows had automatically adjusted for Daylight Savings Time. I understand that Vista and recent XP systems are made to adjust automatically, while early XP and prior need a "patch". A "patch" being nothing more than a term for this TZEDIT.EXE (which you notice comes direct from Microsoft) or any other Time Zone EDITing program. All this program does is let you set your own parameters as to when you want the time changes made instead of locking you to 1st Sat in April and last Sat in Oct. Amazing how so much hoo-haa is given to such a simple issue. My Computer Geek is still rolling on the floor laughing about the "snowball effect" thing. __________________ "He who dies with the most toys wins"

03-12-2007, 10:23 AM	#18
SIKSUKR Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 5,075 Thanks: 215 Thanked 903 Times in 509 Posts	Ok,I tried to load a patch for Windows ME last week and was unsuccessfull.Does anyone have the link for that? __________________ SIKSUKR

03-12-2007, 11:46 AM	#19
Island Girl Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Central MA Posts: 2,352 Thanks: 18 Thanked 535 Times in 179 Posts	FYI - other issues with Daylight Savings on computers Since we are knee deep in this stuff at work: Servers: Outlook with Exchange servers in the background did not update appointments created prior to our people applying the DST update to Exchange.. no fix yet. Windows 2000 servers have an issue, here is the fix: We have found an issue with Windows 2000 Servers that did not take the daylight savings time. All of them had the registry hack that was required but the time never changed. We tried manually moving the time but it would always revert back. After some investigation on Microsoft’s site we have found the fix and applied it to all these servers. They all appear to be keeping there time correctly. For those who have inquisitive minds the fix was as follows:fficeffice" />>> If the machine had the registry hack, simply double click on the time in the lower right hand corner. Select the Time Zone tab at the top and change the time zone to something other then what is listed, to something like Greenland, ffice:smarttags" />lace w:st="on">Azoreslace>, etc.. Hit apply. Change the Time Zone back to the original setting and hit Apply again. It should now display the correct time. If you select the Date & Time tab at the top you will now notice your Current time zone says Eastern Daylight Time as opposed to Eastern Standard Time. Windows XP desktops: Microsoft has an update on their site to apply... a few of our machines did not work with this... update is being manually applied. IG __________________ Island Girl ....... Make Lemonade