Cyanobacteria as an ALS Trigger?

Grant · 11-17-2009, 10:19 AM

This is a pretty disturbing piece about the possible link between a cyanobacteria toxin and dramatic increases in the incidence of ALS (Lou Gehrig's Disease) among lakefront residents in New Hampshire. It's not Winnipesaukee, but close enough...and we have ample blue-green algae in the Lake.

steadyon · 11-17-2009, 09:29 PM

true and scary

secondcurve · 11-17-2009, 09:37 PM

This stuff is in Mirror Lake. Sales of lake front property have come to a screeching halt in the last couple of years. Why take the chance.

Airwaves · 11-21-2009, 05:24 PM

Is there an up-to-date list of lakes and waterways that have this issue in New Hampshire or all of New England for that matter?

I am looking for another waterfront cabin and the last thing we need is to confront an issue like this!!!

What is the law in NH regarding disclosure of something like this in a Real Estate transaction? Anyone?

secondcurve · 11-21-2009, 07:06 PM

Airwaves

What Lake are you looking at? One thing to consider when purchasing is that it is better to purchase on a deep cold water lake than a shallow warm water lake.

Airwaves · 11-22-2009, 01:45 AM

Until now the lakes we have been looking at have been a secondary issue, we are looking for a specific type of cottage and property, Open concept with little or no slope to the water and without a sandy beach.

Something we can easily convert to handicapped/wheelchair friendly.

So what lake it was located on hasn't been of concern until now.

ApS · 11-22-2009, 05:09 AM

A quick search came up with some other NH lakes:

Quote:

"...Winnisquam Lake in Belknap County and Willand Pond in Somersworth...the north shore of Mascoma Lake..."

but

Quote:

"...Statistically, if you live near some lakes, there appears to be a higher risk of ALS," said Dartmouth-Hitchcock neurologist Dr. Elijah Stommel..."

"...Around lakes and ponds with cyanobacteria blooms in New England, that rate increases to 4.5 people per 100,000. At Mascoma Lake, the rate is 50 people per 100,000..."

and

Quote:

"...Dumping of sewage and other pollutants, including yard waste such as grass clippings, is believed to trigger cyanobacteria blooms. Nitrogen and phosphorous, which come from runoff created by development, also are recognized as contributors..."

http://davidgillett.blogspot.com/200...ed-to-als.html

Gee...where have we heard that before?

The article asserts that an ALS "predisposition" is a factor, but does that mean one's having ALS in the family is a factor, or having a genetic marker for the disease?

For Lake Winnipesaukee, there may be localized areas of concern, such as "Tuftonboro Bay"—and particularly "The Basin". (Those places downstream from Mirror Lake—already known for cyanobacteria blooms).

After more than 53 seasons on the lake—and three generations—my only medical complaint is a minor case of non-diabetic peripheral neuropathy.

I'll run the cyanobacteria-possibility by my MD at the next visit. After 53 years on Winnipesaukee, I'm quite certain my doctor will see there's nothing wrong with me nothing wrong with me.

scubajay1153 · 11-22-2009, 12:35 PM

Very interesting and eye opening piece!

11-17-2009, 10:19 AM	#1
Grant Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Pennsyltuckey, Tuftonboro, Moultonborough Posts: 1,505 Thanks: 384 Thanked 232 Times in 126 Posts	Cyanobacteria as an ALS Trigger? This is a pretty disturbing piece about the possible link between a cyanobacteria toxin and dramatic increases in the incidence of ALS (Lou Gehrig's Disease) among lakefront residents in New Hampshire. It's not Winnipesaukee, but close enough...and we have ample blue-green algae in the Lake. __________________ "When I die, please don't let my wife sell my dive gear for what I told her I paid for it."

11-21-2009, 05:24 PM	#4
Airwaves Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: I'm right here! Posts: 1,153 Thanks: 9 Thanked 102 Times in 37 Posts	What lakes are affected? Is there an up-to-date list of lakes and waterways that have this issue in New Hampshire or all of New England for that matter? I am looking for another waterfront cabin and the last thing we need is to confront an issue like this!!! What is the law in NH regarding disclosure of something like this in a Real Estate transaction? Anyone?

11-22-2009, 12:35 PM	#8
scubajay1153 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Gilford Posts: 93 Thanks: 2 Thanked 8 Times in 7 Posts	Thank you! Very interesting and eye opening piece!

11-17-2009, 09:29 PM	#2
steadyon Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Meredith Posts: 102 Thanks: 0 Thanked 7 Times in 6 Posts	true and scary

11-17-2009, 09:37 PM	#3
secondcurve Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 2,128 Thanks: 1,343 Thanked 564 Times in 291 Posts	This stuff is in Mirror Lake. Sales of lake front property have come to a screeching halt in the last couple of years. Why take the chance.

11-21-2009, 07:06 PM	#5
secondcurve Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 2,128 Thanks: 1,343 Thanked 564 Times in 291 Posts	Airwaves What Lake are you looking at? One thing to consider when purchasing is that it is better to purchase on a deep cold water lake than a shallow warm water lake.

11-22-2009, 01:45 AM	#6
Airwaves Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: I'm right here! Posts: 1,153 Thanks: 9 Thanked 102 Times in 37 Posts	Until now the lakes we have been looking at have been a secondary issue, we are looking for a specific type of cottage and property, Open concept with little or no slope to the water and without a sandy beach. Something we can easily convert to handicapped/wheelchair friendly. So what lake it was located on hasn't been of concern until now.