a SIGN of things to come.... Braun Bay

Phantom · 08-21-2009, 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by caloway

I was there last weekend. Apart from the just plain rudeness from people who think they don't need to come off plane until their anchor is in the water, there were: People taking their dog up to shore to take a dump. People smoking up (Their DD must have been underneath taking a nap). Some dude spraying his whole boat with a cleaner and cleaning it in the water (seriously!?!?). A few loud pipes, music, etc.

To RinkerFam's point earlier -- it looks as though these Refugee's of Braun are now setting up shop at Patrician Shores. And it's a tragedy.

My last two week-end experiances have led me to unfortunately keep the family away from this area where we have gone religiously and loved for nearly 15 years. It has always been a great FAMILY spot to meet good friends, have fun, and yet maintain a certain level of "boaters etiquette". Never (since leaving Braun Bay nearly 20 years ago) have I ever seen so many inconsiderate boaters in place as I have over the past couple of week-ends. The volleyball nets have arrived, the idea of three or more racks / lines of anchored boats --- There is nothing worse than being at the a sand bar only to find 4-5 "cruisers" decide to set up shop rafting right in front of you!! Hello -- there's plenty of waterfront!! BTW don't even think about setting anchor on/over/or near my front anchor line!!.

We had one pontoon boat actually "walk" his boat in and proceeded to "drop anchor" four (4) feet from our swim platform (when he dropped the mushroom anchor he actually splshed the family sitting on the rear sundeck). To top it off, someone on this potoon boat of roughly 10 people had a dog (retriever I think) which over the course of the next hour barked incessantly at my two Grandgirls as they sat on our swimplatform. Add to that the "spud gun" loud music, etc etc --

If your a long time fan of the area and been there recently you know exactly what I'm referring to ....... unfortunately people bring MP action upon themselves by their behavior...... I suspect within the next season or two this will become the Lakes next No Rafting Zone ----- It truely is a travesty!

and I'm sure I'll take a lot of bashing for this post

Woodsy · 08-21-2009, 07:16 AM

Phantom...

I am certainly not going to bash you....

Patrician is definitely getting a bit more crowded. Its the unintended consequences of "No Rafting Zones" on the lake. This year the NHMP have decided to target the NRZ as the regulation to enforce.... 2 guys on jetskis and one patrol boat swoop into Braun Bay (and West Alton) and start writing tickets! Kind of a waste of resources, but the wealthy land owners across the bay have obviously decided to force the issue!

I personally dont care if there is 1 row or 3 rows of boats as long as nobody is bumping... the lake belongs to everyone! I dont get too twisted if someone parks over my anchor line, its easy enough to politely ask them to move when I go to leave. I find it to be ALOT less stressful if you greet people with a nice hello and offer to lend a hand positioning thier boat.... that way you can kind of "help" put the anchor someplace a little further away. Its everyones lake, and a little courtesy and a lot less me me me go along way to making the lake even more enjoyable!

Woodsy

Phantom · 08-21-2009, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Woodsy

if you greet people with a nice hello and offer to lend a hand positioning thier boat.... that way you can kind of "help" put the anchor someplace a little further away. Its everyones lake, and a little courtesy and a lot less me me me go along way to making the lake even more enjoyable!

Woodsy -- I do not disagree with much of what you've said ....... I am typicaly (much to my wife's chagrin-- who claims I'd talk to a dead cat on the side of the road of it would listen) the first one off the sundeck to help another fellow boater get situated. What I'm referring to is packing boats in like sardines. And I'm sorry -- when a group of 30+ footers set their front anchors and back in over a line of bow anchor lines and set up their rafting line -- I find that just plain RUDE!

and I fully appreciate the fact that it is a result of stepped up enforcement in othr areas ............... until now Patrician has NEVER caught the eye of MP (and with good cause).... Now I feel it is their most likely next spot!!

Spud guns, jet ski's ripping around ...... it's bound to happen...... and like I said it will be a travesty.

BroadHopper · 08-21-2009, 08:53 AM

I was over at lake Winnisquam Tuesday. The public launch ramp is fantastic! The sand bar next to the bridge was not crowded and my grandkids had a great time. Not one MPO visit. In fact I didn't see one MPO all day! Everyone is very friendly. Reminds me of Braun Bay ten years ago. Everyone was talking about all the s**t that is happening on Winnipesaukee. Speed limits, Ames Farm being close, rafting limitations etc. People say Winni folks are doing it to themselves and I'm afraid they are partly right. They are glad they have their own little world and they tend to keep it that way. I get the same sentiments from Newfound folks and Sunapee folks.

It's sad.

knowit · 08-21-2009, 02:06 PM

What is a spud gun?

4Fun · 08-21-2009, 02:20 PM

Potato gun. The center of a redneck BBQ. PVC Pipe, lighter fluid, and potatoes. Properly set up you can shoot them a good 300-500'

Mee-n-Mac · 08-21-2009, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by knowit

What is a spud gun?

http://www.spudtech.com/

From the above ....

" So you want to know just what the heck is a spudgun....

Well you have come to the right place. Spudguns, first of all, are also known by many other names; perhaps you have heard of some of them:

Spudgun (duh!)
Potato Gun (almost duh)
Potato Cannon
Spudzooka
Spudchucker
Potato Launcher
Potato Entertainment Device
Novelty Potato Instrument
Starch Resource Deployment Facilitator (has engineering comic root)

So with all these names, how is one to decide how to go about addressing this subject now. I used to shy away from the 'gun' connotation, as these days that can carry stigma. So potato launcher or such was 'safe.' Now you could probably find the word spudgun in a modern dictionary (added it to your Word Spellchecker yet?)

A SPUDGUN is a simple device made usually from plastic water pipe, designed to launch/shoot/lob a potato or similar object a long way, farther than you could probably throw it, to distances exceeding 300 yards. This maximum range is highly debatable, but in this context (and the entire site, unless otherwise noted) the projectile will be a run-o-the-mill POTATO, non frozen, no chemical modification, and no densification via foreign objects. To shoot such potato any greater distance would require a 'super potato' given that a potato is inherently a LOUSY projectile, as its density is rather low. High muzzle velocities are easily obtained but they sure slow down in a hurry!

The Spudgun Technology Center is now in its eleventh year on the Internet. Starting out as a small single page University-Server served informational article, it has evolved into the premier spudgun site on the internet! Lots of great information and new stuff arriving all the time. I am working on some very interesting projects....check back often!

For more information about spudguns be sure you check out the rest of this informative site and let me know of any questions that may arise. "

knowit · 08-21-2009, 03:09 PM

Why on earth would anyone have one of these on boat?

Mee-n-Mac · 08-21-2009, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by knowit

Why on earth would anyone have one of these on boat?

To soften up the inhabitants of Cow I prior to the amphibious assault, of course.

Ropetow · 08-22-2009, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Mee-n-Mac

To soften up the inhabitants of Cow I prior to the amphibious assault, of course.

Or, to feed the inhabitants. Let's see...we can bombard them with hot dogs as the main course, potatos as the side, water (via balloons) as the drink. Of course, with some creativity we could also launch some veggies, other beverages (to lower their resistance) and even ice cream (very well-frozen) for dessert. Hopefully, nobody will request watermelon....

hazelnut · 08-23-2009, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Mee-n-Mac

To soften up the inhabitants of Cow I prior to the amphibious assault, of course.

NEVER!!!!! HA HA HA. I'm actually considering mounting a sign in the channel near my house warning people of hot dog shrapnel.

travaler18 · 08-23-2009, 07:05 PM

We were on lake mead in nv. for a beautful week of houseboating .All of the lake is surrounded by national park so absolutly no shorefront property.You find a spot you like and claim it for as long as you like,as many boats as you like .It was awesome !!!!-------------MABE WE SHOULD DROP THE WATER LEVEL 4 FT AND CLAIM ALL THE NEW EXPOSED LAND AS NATIONAL PARKLAND FOR ALL TO USE!!!!!! NO MORE PRIVATE LAKEFRONT PROPERTY

BroadHopper · 08-23-2009, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by travaler18

We were on lake mead in nv. for a beautful week of houseboating .All of the lake is surrounded by national park so absolutly no shorefront property.You find a spot you like and claim it for as long as you like,as many boats as you like .It was awesome !!!!-------------MABE WE SHOULD DROP THE WATER LEVEL 4 FT AND CLAIM ALL THE NEW EXPOSED LAND AS NATIONAL PARKLAND FOR ALL TO USE!!!!!! NO MORE PRIVATE LAKEFRONT PROPERTY

Get rid of the dam and let nature run her course!

winnidiver · 08-24-2009, 09:07 AM

I read this thread with a lot of interest. First off after seeing the sign I want to head over there and anchor, because it IS public water.
That being said I can't understand why anyone would want to go to Braun Bay on a weekend in the first place. When I go out with my family or by myself, I try to find a nice quiet spot to anchor swim, and sun. Maybe picnic. I have no desire to park myself in the middle of a crowd of people. I always look forward to sept. when I get the lake without the crowds.
It's a big lake so why crowd yourselves into one little spot? I guess I don't understand the tourist mentality.
Why don't you guys go and explore the lake find all those great places that only a few people go to. You might find a whole new side to the lake experience.
Of course if you do this the Ice Cream barge may not find you.

4Fun · 08-24-2009, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by winnidiver

I read this thread with a lot of interest. First off after seeing the sign I want to head over there and anchor, because it IS public water.
That being said I can't understand why anyone would want to go to Braun Bay on a weekend in the first place. When I go out with my family or by myself, I try to find a nice quiet spot to anchor swim, and sun. Maybe picnic. I have no desire to park myself in the middle of a crowd of people. I always look forward to sept. when I get the lake without the crowds.
It's a big lake so why crowd yourselves into one little spot? I guess I don't understand the tourist mentality.
Why don't you guys go and explore the lake find all those great places that only a few people go to. You might find a whole new side to the lake experience.
Of course if you do this the Ice Cream barge may not find you.

I suspect the people that crowd in to Braun like the congestion. Many are looking for the party atmosphere. Not out of control party, just a group getting together for fun. I admit I enjoyed it 10 years ago.

Personally, now I do not like crowds so I head to an area that is quiet. I do wish there were more sandy bottom places for my kids to enjoy though.

winnidiver · 08-24-2009, 11:42 AM

Out in front of Blueberry is nice and sandy. Also the beach at Long Island is accessible by boat,lots of sand.

Dave R · 08-24-2009, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by 4Fun

I suspect the people that crowd in to Braun like the congestion. Many are looking for the party atmosphere. Not out of control party, just a group getting together for fun. I admit I enjoyed it 10 years ago.

Personally, now I do not like crowds so I head to an area that is quiet. I do wish there were more sandy bottom places for my kids to enjoy though.

We tend to go there when there won't be big crowds, and leave when it gets crowded. My kids and my guest's kids love the soft sand, shallow water, and lack of wakes there. We anchor at the far end and are often the northernmost boat on the sandbar. We often meet up with friends in other boats, and could be considered part of the "problem" when it comes to crowds there, a couple of times per year. We don't hang out with a party crowd, drink much, play drinking games, or listen to loud music, but the kids can get a little loud with their horseplay sometimes.

If you've never snorkeled in the weed bed at the very end of the bay, in late August, you should give it a try. The whole area is packed with schools consisting of thousands of smaller fish (mostly young yellow perch and blue gills) in the gaps between the weed thickets, and the weed thickets are swarming with larger predatory fish (bass and chain pickerel) looking for a stray smaller fish to make a meal of. It's like visiting an aquarium only a lot wetter.

BroadHopper · 08-21-2009, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by knowit

Why on earth would anyone have one of these on boat?

To deal with Captain Boneheads when the MP's are not around........

tis · 08-21-2009, 04:18 PM

Oh no, not again you guys!

Winnicandle · 08-21-2009, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by knowit

Why on earth would anyone have one of these on boat?

Because one can.

knowit · 08-21-2009, 04:42 PM

Ok, sorry for taking this off topic ( and to Arkansas)

I am putting my Rebel flag away and hoisting my MP flag with the red circle with a line through it. (Visualize it)

One of the things about Braun Bay that has always bothered me a bit is what do people without Marine Heads or porta potties do while they are camped in the bay all day? I really don't want to think about it, but I suppose we must. I wonder if any water quality tests have ever been done there after a busy weekend. Just food for thought.

PS I think that sign would would look nice rimmed with some pyrotechnic devices. Of course the legal kind you can buy in Tilton at exit 20.

Rattlesnake Guy · 08-21-2009, 05:38 PM

Is it just me or is their a way to combine the two topics?

knowit · 08-21-2009, 08:28 PM

Nice!

But I believe your two center shots are less than 25 inches apart. I think MP may make you move them to comply.

ApS · 09-08-2009, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Woodsy

"...2 guys on jetskis and one patrol boat swoop into Braun Bay...and start writing tickets...Kind of a waste of resources, but the wealthy land owners across the bay have obviously decided to force the issue...!"

Not the nearest landowner.

His place is up for sale...and who would buy it?

Well, someone in the "chemicals" trade, maybe?

HUH · 09-09-2009, 06:06 PM

After reading this thread im realy dissapointed in the way things are going. When does this type of nonsense end.. Roping off and signing every decent spot on the water that we the taxpayers own? Enough is enough!

BroadHopper · 09-09-2009, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Acres per Second

Well, someone in the "chemicals" trade, maybe?

I think the owner of Jack Daniels distillery may be interested!

GTO · 08-28-2009, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Phantom

To RinkerFam's point earlier -- it looks as though these Refugee's of Braun are now setting up shop at Patrician Shores. And it's a tragedy.

My last two week-end experiences have led me to unfortunately keep the family away from this area where we have gone religiously and loved for nearly 15 years. It has always been a great FAMILY spot to meet good friends, have fun, and yet maintain a certain level of "boaters etiquette". Never (since leaving Braun Bay nearly 20 years ago) have I ever seen so many inconsiderate boaters in place as I have over the past couple of week-ends. The volleyball nets have arrived, the idea of three or more racks / lines of anchored boats --- There is nothing worse than being at the a sand bar only to find 4-5 "cruisers" decide to set up shop rafting right in front of you!! Hello -- there's plenty of waterfront!! BTW don't even think about setting anchor on/over/or near my front anchor line!!.

We had one pontoon boat actually "walk" his boat in and proceeded to "drop anchor" four (4) feet from our swim platform (when he dropped the mushroom anchor he actually splashed the family sitting on the rear sundeck). To top it off, someone on this pontoon boat of roughly 10 people had a dog (retriever I think) which over the course of the next hour barked incessantly at my two Grandgirls as they sat on our swim platform. Add to that the "spud gun" loud music, etc etc --

If your a long time fan of the area and been there recently you know exactly what I'm referring to ....... unfortunately people bring MP action upon themselves by their behavior...... I suspect within the next season or two this will become the Lakes next No Rafting Zone ----- It truly is a travesty!

and I'm sure I'll take a lot of bashing for this post

I counted 43 boats there a couple of Saturdays ago. A total zoo! Oh and where do the people that don't have porta potties on their boats go to the bathroom? Go a few feet into the woods there and you'll find out. Its always nice to be taking a walk and see the pile of toilet paper behind the tree. Of course, I'm sure when parents are taking their young ones on a nature hike, it should be easy enough to explain to them what that tampon is inside the sandwich bag. Yes, its there! And someone mentioned the music coming from boat(s). I heard one of the boats from the other side of the bay..Don't get me wrong, I was a DJ for 6 years and love music but I don't need to listen to yours. This isn't the Naswa! Not only that...but your choice of disco music really sucks. Ok, now go for a snorkel in the nice warm waters of the cove. Go on a scavenger hunt for a few beer bottles, plenty of red plastic cups...and my favorite....the pile of chicken bones on the bottom. Oh but wait, I do want to thank the person that must of accidentally dropped their $200 pair of Maui Jim sun glasses overboard. I look great in them now. I believe that whole lot of land there is owned by the Danes. I'm sure they would love to see what their land was being used for. Idiots like this are why there are no rafting zones.

VtSteve · 08-29-2009, 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by GTO

Idiots like this are why there are no rafting zones.

Summed it up pretty well GTO. It's really sad..

SIKSUKR · 08-31-2009, 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by GTO

Go a few feet into the woods there and you'll find out. Its always nice to be taking a walk and see the pile of toilet paper behind the tree. Of course, I'm sure when parents are taking their young ones on a nature hike, it should be easy enough to explain to them what that tampon is inside the sandwich bag. Yes, its there! .

I agree with the spirit of your post but for you to see what was onshore,you clearly violated the no-rafting zone rules in Braun.You are not in any way supposed to set foot on that property.As you stated,this is why property owners fight for no rafting zones.Glass houses...

BroadHopper · 08-31-2009, 07:43 AM

The shore along the Winnisquam sand bar is populated. So it will be hard to 'do your duty' on the shore. Maybe that is why Winnisquam is 'free from harrassment'.

Maybe they should change the rulings from no rafting to 'No duty zones'!

Gatto Nero · 08-31-2009, 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by SIKSUKR

I agree with the spirit of your post but for you to see what was onshore,you clearly violated the no-rafting zone rules in Braun.You are not in any way supposed to set foot on that property.As you stated,this is why property owners fight for no rafting zones.Glass houses...

As you can see by the post that was quoted, GTO's post was not referring to Braun Bay, it was referring to Patrician Shores. That area has a walking path from the association next door. So, my guess is that GTO was not rafting at all, but taking a nature walk. I've taken that same walk myself and seen many of the same things. I missed the Maui Jim's though

GTO · 08-31-2009, 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by SIKSUKR

I agree with the spirit of your post but for you to see what was onshore,you clearly violated the no-rafting zone rules in Braun.You are not in any way supposed to set foot on that property.As you stated,this is why property owners fight for no rafting zones.Glass houses...

But no where in my post did I say I was rafting or I even arrived by boat. As a matter of fact, I am a nearby resident that takes daily walks through the woods every day.

jrc · 08-31-2009, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by SIKSUKR

I agree with the spirit of your post but for you to see what was onshore,you clearly violated the no-rafting zone rules in Braun.You are not in any way supposed to set foot on that property.As you stated,this is why property owners fight for no rafting zones.Glass houses...

Are there no tresspassing signs on the land behind the sandbar in Braun Bay? I don't remember seeing any but I never really looked.

No rafting zones don't stop you from going on shore. Obviously littering, especially human waste on shore is illegal and just plain gross, but just setting foot on shore is not covered by any boating rules.

gravy boat · 08-31-2009, 11:59 AM

Hubby and I were sans girlies this weekend so we checked out Braun Bay yeserday (Sunday). Was much more mellow that in recent weekends -- a sure sign of the approaching Fall.

There were several boats with dogs -- most were small in size (Terrier, Pugs, etc.). I saw at least two owners walk their dogs to shore to let them do their business.

I guess it beats letting them go on your boat or in the water, but why wouldn't you leave the dogs home? We leave our dogs home and either stop home mid-day or pay for someone to walk them mid-day.

SIKSUKR · 09-01-2009, 11:52 AM

My apologies GTO.Did not see that you were refering to Patrician Shores.I don't know why I believe this but I'm pretty sure you are not allowed to be on the shore in Braun Bay.

changeofplans · 09-01-2009, 01:23 PM

GTO,

I sent a PM to you, not sure if you got it. I was at Patrician a couple Saturdays ago with family and friends (4 boats total) the kids playing having a great time snorkling etc.. until one of the kids lost a snorkel and I handed my Maui's to someone on the boat so I could look for the snorkel in the chest deep water. Long story short my Maui's didn't make it into the boat and the bottom was too stirred up at the time to see them. The model is Kahuna 162-02 they are gun metal gray with light and dark gray kind of Camo frame. If these are the ones you found I love to swap some $$$ for them.

Thanks

jrc · 09-01-2009, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by SIKSUKR

...I don't know why I believe this but I'm pretty sure you are not allowed to be on the shore in Braun Bay.

You may be right, there may be a tresspassing issue with the shore in Braun Bay. My point was just that a No Rafting Zone has nothing to do with walking on shore.

I'm sure one intent of some NRZs is to limit the number of boats, which has the effect of limiting the number of people. Which of course limits the number of meatheads that cause trouble and pollute.

Misty Blue · 09-03-2009, 09:58 PM

The shore at the "rafting area" in Braun Bay is the Kona wildlife management area. It is state property and extends from the skimobile path on the north side of the bay to the first house on the western side of the bay over Goodhue hill almost to the neck road.

I have hunted there for most of my life and have been supprised by how little impact the boaters have had on the area. Very little human waste. I did have to pick up some cans last week from the water. F....Jerks!

There are enough critters there doing their buisness that I don't think Scruffy the pooch will cause a serious inpact on the ecology of Moultonborough.

Live and let live, let nature be your teacher.

Misty Blue

Airwaves · 09-03-2009, 10:16 PM

Originally posted by jrc

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Are there no tresspassing signs on the land behind the sandbar in Braun Bay? I don't remember seeing any but I never really looked.

As a land owner in NH (beyond the waterfront on Lake Winnipesauee) I can tell you that unless there are No Tresspassing signs every 50 feet (and the locals tend to rip them down) then the property is open to the public and authorities will do nothing.

We have tried on a number of occasions to post our property but the signs are ripped off and trash accumulates! Wanna bet the sheriff's relatives are involved? Hardwood trees have also disappeared!

jrc · 09-04-2009, 06:57 AM

AW has it right, I own some land along a river. I have more than a few issues with teenage party trash. I put up signs and they tear them down. The police always say, "no sign, no crime"

Technically, criminal tresspassing in NH is knowingly being somewhere you should not be. It's the "knowingly" part that's hard. I've heard stories of people videotaping themselves telling tresspassers to leave, then they can't later say that they didn't know. Too much work for me.

So seeing no signs in Braun Bay, I can go on shore until someone (a LEO or a landowner) tells me to leave. Then I can never return, because then I "know".

RTTOOL · 09-01-2009, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by gto

i counted 43 boats there a couple of saturdays ago. A total zoo! Oh and where do the people that don't have porta potties on their boats go to the bathroom? Go a few feet into the woods there and you'll find out. Its always nice to be taking a walk and see the pile of toilet paper behind the tree. Of course, i'm sure when parents are taking their young ones on a nature hike, it should be easy enough to explain to them what that tampon is inside the sandwich bag. Yes, its there! And someone mentioned the music coming from boat(s). I heard one of the boats from the other side of the bay..don't get me wrong, i was a dj for 6 years and love music but i don't need to listen to yours. This isn't the naswa! Not only that...but your choice of disco music really sucks. Ok, now go for a snorkel in the nice warm waters of the cove. Go on a scavenger hunt for a few beer bottles, plenty of red plastic cups...and my favorite....the pile of chicken bones on the bottom. Oh but wait, i do want to thank the person that must of accidentally dropped their $200 pair of maui jim sun glasses overboard. I look great in them now. I believe that whole lot of land there is owned by the danes. I'm sure they would love to see what their land was being used for. Idiots like this are why there are no rafting zones.

hey gto thanks for finding my jims where can i meet you so i can get them back...

GTO · 09-04-2009, 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by RTTOOL

hey gto thanks for finding my jims where can i meet you so i can get them back...

Come on RT, I know you don't wear your Jims when you ride your jet ski.....anyway, if they are yours....look on EBAY

08-21-2009, 07:16 AM	#2
Woodsy Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Weirs Beach Posts: 1,966 Thanks: 80 Thanked 980 Times in 440 Posts	Phantom... I am certainly not going to bash you.... Patrician is definitely getting a bit more crowded. Its the unintended consequences of "No Rafting Zones" on the lake. This year the NHMP have decided to target the NRZ as the regulation to enforce.... 2 guys on jetskis and one patrol boat swoop into Braun Bay (and West Alton) and start writing tickets! Kind of a waste of resources, but the wealthy land owners across the bay have obviously decided to force the issue! I personally dont care if there is 1 row or 3 rows of boats as long as nobody is bumping... the lake belongs to everyone! I dont get too twisted if someone parks over my anchor line, its easy enough to politely ask them to move when I go to leave. I find it to be ALOT less stressful if you greet people with a nice hello and offer to lend a hand positioning thier boat.... that way you can kind of "help" put the anchor someplace a little further away. Its everyones lake, and a little courtesy and a lot less me me me go along way to making the lake even more enjoyable! Woodsy __________________ The only way to eliminate ignorant behavior is through education. You can't fix stupid.

08-21-2009, 08:53 AM	#4
BroadHopper Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Laconia NH Posts: 5,574 Thanks: 3,210 Thanked 1,103 Times in 794 Posts	Winnisquam sandbar I was over at lake Winnisquam Tuesday. The public launch ramp is fantastic! The sand bar next to the bridge was not crowded and my grandkids had a great time. Not one MPO visit. In fact I didn't see one MPO all day! Everyone is very friendly. Reminds me of Braun Bay ten years ago. Everyone was talking about all the s**t that is happening on Winnipesaukee. Speed limits, Ames Farm being close, rafting limitations etc. People say Winni folks are doing it to themselves and I'm afraid they are partly right. They are glad they have their own little world and they tend to keep it that way. I get the same sentiments from Newfound folks and Sunapee folks. It's sad. __________________ Someday may never be an actual day.

08-23-2009, 07:05 PM	#12
travaler18 Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 31 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	park anywhere We were on lake mead in nv. for a beautful week of houseboating .All of the lake is surrounded by national park so absolutly no shorefront property.You find a spot you like and claim it for as long as you like,as many boats as you like .It was awesome !!!!-------------MABE WE SHOULD DROP THE WATER LEVEL 4 FT AND CLAIM ALL THE NEW EXPOSED LAND AS NATIONAL PARKLAND FOR ALL TO USE!!!!!! NO MORE PRIVATE LAKEFRONT PROPERTY

08-24-2009, 09:07 AM	#14
winnidiver Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Moultonborough Posts: 54 Blog Entries: 2 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Far from the madding crowd. I read this thread with a lot of interest. First off after seeing the sign I want to head over there and anchor, because it IS public water. That being said I can't understand why anyone would want to go to Braun Bay on a weekend in the first place. When I go out with my family or by myself, I try to find a nice quiet spot to anchor swim, and sun. Maybe picnic. I have no desire to park myself in the middle of a crowd of people. I always look forward to sept. when I get the lake without the crowds. It's a big lake so why crowd yourselves into one little spot? I guess I don't understand the tourist mentality. Why don't you guys go and explore the lake find all those great places that only a few people go to. You might find a whole new side to the lake experience. Of course if you do this the Ice Cream barge may not find you.

08-24-2009, 11:42 AM	#16
winnidiver Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Moultonborough Posts: 54 Blog Entries: 2 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Sandy Bottom Out in front of Blueberry is nice and sandy. Also the beach at Long Island is accessible by boat,lots of sand.

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08-21-2009, 02:06 PM	#5
knowit Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Mirror Lake NH Posts: 100 Thanks: 2 Thanked 27 Times in 20 Posts	What is a spud gun?

08-21-2009, 02:20 PM	#6
4Fun Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 283 Thanks: 1 Thanked 66 Times in 38 Posts	Potato gun. The center of a redneck BBQ. PVC Pipe, lighter fluid, and potatoes. Properly set up you can shoot them a good 300-500'

08-21-2009, 03:09 PM	#8
knowit Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Mirror Lake NH Posts: 100 Thanks: 2 Thanked 27 Times in 20 Posts	Why on earth would anyone have one of these on boat?

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08-21-2009, 04:18 PM	#19
tis Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 6,725 Thanks: 752 Thanked 1,457 Times in 1,014 Posts	Oh no, not again you guys!

08-21-2009, 04:42 PM	#21
knowit Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Mirror Lake NH Posts: 100 Thanks: 2 Thanked 27 Times in 20 Posts	Ok, sorry for taking this off topic ( and to Arkansas) I am putting my Rebel flag away and hoisting my MP flag with the red circle with a line through it. (Visualize it) One of the things about Braun Bay that has always bothered me a bit is what do people without Marine Heads or porta potties do while they are camped in the bay all day? I really don't want to think about it, but I suppose we must. I wonder if any water quality tests have ever been done there after a busy weekend. Just food for thought. PS I think that sign would would look nice rimmed with some pyrotechnic devices. Of course the legal kind you can buy in Tilton at exit 20.

08-21-2009, 05:38 PM	#22
Rattlesnake Guy Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 1,254 Thanks: 423 Thanked 366 Times in 175 Posts	Is it just me or is their a way to combine the two topics? Attached Images

08-21-2009, 08:28 PM	#23
knowit Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Mirror Lake NH Posts: 100 Thanks: 2 Thanked 27 Times in 20 Posts	Nice! But I believe your two center shots are less than 25 inches apart. I think MP may make you move them to comply.

09-09-2009, 06:06 PM	#25
HUH Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 230 Thanks: 21 Thanked 14 Times in 8 Posts	Truly sad After reading this thread im realy dissapointed in the way things are going. When does this type of nonsense end.. Roping off and signing every decent spot on the water that we the taxpayers own? Enough is enough!

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08-31-2009, 07:43 AM	#30
BroadHopper Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Laconia NH Posts: 5,574 Thanks: 3,210 Thanked 1,103 Times in 794 Posts	I see a difference. The shore along the Winnisquam sand bar is populated. So it will be hard to 'do your duty' on the shore. Maybe that is why Winnisquam is 'free from harrassment'. Maybe they should change the rulings from no rafting to 'No duty zones'! __________________ Someday may never be an actual day.

08-31-2009, 11:59 AM	#34
gravy boat Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Gilford year round, West Alton summers Posts: 589 Thanks: 596 Thanked 200 Times in 100 Posts	Braun Bay Hubby and I were sans girlies this weekend so we checked out Braun Bay yeserday (Sunday). Was much more mellow that in recent weekends -- a sure sign of the approaching Fall. There were several boats with dogs -- most were small in size (Terrier, Pugs, etc.). I saw at least two owners walk their dogs to shore to let them do their business. I guess it beats letting them go on your boat or in the water, but why wouldn't you leave the dogs home? We leave our dogs home and either stop home mid-day or pay for someone to walk them mid-day.

09-01-2009, 11:52 AM	#35
SIKSUKR Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 5,075 Thanks: 215 Thanked 903 Times in 509 Posts	Sorry GTO My apologies GTO.Did not see that you were refering to Patrician Shores.I don't know why I believe this but I'm pretty sure you are not allowed to be on the shore in Braun Bay. __________________ SIKSUKR

09-01-2009, 01:23 PM	#36
changeofplans Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 1 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Maui's GTO, I sent a PM to you, not sure if you got it. I was at Patrician a couple Saturdays ago with family and friends (4 boats total) the kids playing having a great time snorkling etc.. until one of the kids lost a snorkel and I handed my Maui's to someone on the boat so I could look for the snorkel in the chest deep water. Long story short my Maui's didn't make it into the boat and the bottom was too stirred up at the time to see them. The model is Kahuna 162-02 they are gun metal gray with light and dark gray kind of Camo frame. If these are the ones you found I love to swap some $$$ for them. Thanks

09-03-2009, 09:58 PM	#38
Misty Blue Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 658 Thanks: 121 Thanked 283 Times in 98 Posts	All ashore that's going ashore! The shore at the "rafting area" in Braun Bay is the Kona wildlife management area. It is state property and extends from the skimobile path on the north side of the bay to the first house on the western side of the bay over Goodhue hill almost to the neck road. I have hunted there for most of my life and have been supprised by how little impact the boaters have had on the area. Very little human waste. I did have to pick up some cans last week from the water. F....Jerks! There are enough critters there doing their buisness that I don't think Scruffy the pooch will cause a serious inpact on the ecology of Moultonborough. Live and let live, let nature be your teacher. Misty Blue

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09-04-2009, 06:57 AM	#40
jrc Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: NH Posts: 2,689 Thanks: 33 Thanked 439 Times in 249 Posts	AW has it right, I own some land along a river. I have more than a few issues with teenage party trash. I put up signs and they tear them down. The police always say, "no sign, no crime" Technically, criminal tresspassing in NH is knowingly being somewhere you should not be. It's the "knowingly" part that's hard. I've heard stories of people videotaping themselves telling tresspassers to leave, then they can't later say that they didn't know. Too much work for me. So seeing no signs in Braun Bay, I can go on shore until someone (a LEO or a landowner) tells me to leave. Then I can never return, because then I "know".