Warm Weather

[fatlazyless]

Just look at all that white stuff. The mountains have some new snow cover up about 3000' and the ski area is tring to make snow. It looks more like gray spray water than white powdered ice that's sprizt'n out the snow guns, up at 3500". Estimated temp up top...maybe 32.

By the color of the green grass,the ground hasn't frozen yet.

Will it be open on Friday.....stay tuned?

What a warm November, it has been! Seeing three tennis playing Meredith women, all about sixty years age, dressed in shorts and tee shirts back on November 11, Veteran's Day, was a little unusual for a November 11 day! November is a cold month.....not in 2009....no way!

[phoenix]

water temp now about 5-6 degrees higher than last year. Unless we get a very deep freeze could be January before lake fully freezes over

[SIKSUKR]

Originally Posted by fatlazyless

Just look at all that white stuff. The mountains have some new snow cover up about 3000' and the ski area is tring to make snow.

At least 2000 ft. I hiked and skied Cannon on Sunday. We had 12 inches at the base which is at 2000 ft elevation.

[fatlazyless]

At Waterville the snow was showing white at about 3000'. No idea of the depth.....probably a slushy inch or two, Probably, the Franconia-Bethlehem area is colder than Waterville, North of the notch gets some different weather moves sometimes.

Waterville is out of their mind if they think they are worth $67.00. After New Years, Mondays and Fridays are twofer days.....maybe before New Years depending on the ski biz this year.

Gunstock has something like a $330 season pass. Any Gunstock deals for Belknap County taxpayers who pay all the highfalluton county salaries, perks and pensions for every retired sheriff & others for the last 40 years?

[fatlazyless]

Last night's rain had to be the biggest rainfall since probably August or July. It rained a whole lot, heavy, and all night long. The temp is 48. Cannot see the High Country snow-making area, up on top, due to heavy clouds, plus the rain continues to fall but not so heavy now.

Will Watervlle Valley skiing open tomorrow, Dec 4, as announced, or will it get moved back again? As always, only time will tell?

The ground up at 3000' to 4000' elevation may not be frozen, or this rain could have thawed it out. Probably, the ground has to be frozen first for skiable snow to be groomed and skied.

The WV snow phone 603-236-4144 still says that opening day will be November 21 so draw your own conclusion?

[Bear Island South]

I put the boat away too early, 69 degrees and sunny today in Southboro, MA

[Rattlesnake Guy]

Originally Posted by fatlazyless

Any Gunstock deals for Belknap County taxpayers who pay all the highfalluton county salaries, perks and pensions for every retired sheriff & others for the last 40 years?

It might be better for you to pay for the ski pass "you use" to help keep taxes down for all of us. I know how much you dislike taxes. Us too.

[Lucky1]

Originally Posted by fatlazyless

Just look at all that white stuff. The mountains have some new snow cover up about 3000' and the ski area is tring to make snow. It looks more like gray spray water than white powdered ice that's sprizt'n out the snow guns, up at 3500". Estimated temp up top...maybe 32.

By the color of the green grass,the ground hasn't frozen yet.

Will it be open on Friday.....stay tuned?

What a warm November, it has been! Seeing three tennis playing Meredith women, all about sixty years age, dressed in shorts and tee shirts back on November 11, Veteran's Day, was a little unusual for a November 11 day! November is a cold month.....not in 2009....no way!

Very wet spring and into summer 2009.

[trfour]

Today, folks in Houston TX woke up to the earliest snow ever!

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34274883/ns/weather/

[Shedwannabe]

Nonewithstanding the recent (very late) cooler change in temperature...

This last decade is the warmest in historical times
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8400905.stm

and the CO2 level is higher than its been in 600,000+ years.

Perhaps that's why the EPA recently (finally) recognized greenhouse gases as a hazard needing regulation:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/08/sc...gy-environment

methinks ITD was right when he said "No good can come of this....." about the start of this thread..... Reality has a way of dampening the attempted humor of people who deny global warming

[ITD]

Originally Posted by Shedwannabe

Nonewithstanding the recent (very late) cooler change in temperature...

This last decade is the warmest in historical times
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8400905.stm

and the CO2 level is higher than its been in 600,000+ years.

Perhaps that's why the EPA recently (finally) recognized greenhouse gases as a hazard needing regulation:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/08/sc...gy-environment

methinks ITD was right when he said "No good can come of this....." about the start of this thread..... Reality has a way of dampening the attempted humor of people who deny global warming

They cooked the data Shed, they lied, then threw out the original data, kept only the cooked data. They colluded, ignored contradicting data, schemed to destroy "deniers". They need to be put in jail for this hoax.

[Shedwannabe]

Originally Posted by ITD

They cooked the data Shed, they lied, then threw out the original data, kept only the cooked data. They colluded, ignored contradicting data, schemed to destroy "deniers". They need to be put in jail for this hoax.

Come on, you know that is so wrong. That is a lie being manufactured by the conservative right wing that wants to destroy the earth in its greed, that is not what happened with the stolen emails. Read the real news!

[ITD]

Originally Posted by Shedwannabe

Come on, you know that is so wrong. That is a lie being manufactured by the conservative right wing that wants to destroy the earth in its greed, that is not what happened with the stolen emails. Read the real news!

You are trolling Shed, not the place for this discussion. I would be happy if Don decided to remove both my and your comments on this matter.

I'll leave you with my version of a post in another venue:

Evolution - A theory
Quantum Physics - A theory
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anthropogenic global warming - "the science is settled"

[SIKSUKR]

Here comes the great Right Wing Conspiracy theory.

[Lucky1]

Where is the helpful chat in this? Reasonable people can disagree but why these insults from either camp? I need calm in my life.

Have learned some intersting things from this site though.

[Merrymeeting]

Keeping this post focused on Lakes Region temps and impact...

Based on the 7-10 day forecast, we should see quickly declining water temps over the next few weeks. Small ponds here in N-central MA have stated keeping their ice skim well into the day, and I expect to start seeing ice on the edges of the larger ones any day now.

With temps well below freezing at night, and barely above freezing (if at all) during the day, the water gives up heat quickly. I'd say we're on track for a normal ice in early January (+/- a few weeks)

(For those who would like to continue to debate the larger global warming/cooling subject, please do so in another forum more appropriate to the topic)

[Shedwannabe]

Originally Posted by Merrymeeting

(For those who would like to continue to debate the larger global warming/cooling subject, please do so in another forum more appropriate to the topic)

Perhaps you have forgotten this thread was originally (provocatively) titled "Global Warming", and somehow (still don't know how) it got changed. That is why the first few posts up top ("flak jackets", "no good can come of this", etc.) are the way they are. So originally, this thread was about global warming in the Lakes Region.

Plus, I have received PM's saying things like "get out of town". I still find it hard to believe anyone thinks there is any controversy in Global Warming. Its even more amazing that IF there was disagreement about whether it exists, we wouldn't collectively say "let's not exacerbate the problem until we are sure human activity doesn't cause global warming". Instead, the sentiment seems to be "don't even raise questions if we are causing our own extinction because I don't want to have to change my lifestyle". That seems to me to be the crux of the denial of global warming.

I will agree with ITD to exit the thread. As to the suggestion I am trolling - you should see my first comment on this thread ("...A whole bunch of trolls") which acknowledges this thread was originally started as a put-down of global warming (coming off the windmills thread)- the first few posts (after the first) are by people who saw where it was going...

perhaps we can do what was finally imposed on the Speed Limit thread and everyone could make one final statement and then no more. The above is my final statement on this thread. Hopefully no trolls will bring this to another thread.....

[Merrymeeting]

Originally Posted by Shedwannabe

Perhaps you have forgotten this thread was originally (provocatively) titled "Global Warming", and somehow (still don't know how) it got changed.

No, I did not forget, and I suggest that the topic was changed because many of us would like to have this forum remain focused on topics and exchanges SPECIFIC to the Lakes Region. That is it's stated goal and something that the webmaster (appropriately) monitors closely.

I realize that global warming debates might be argued to apply as the Lakes Region IS part of the globe. But there are many, many other sites where this topic can be debated as much as anyone would like. It's not appropriate here. So we should either have this be a discussion of Lakes Region, local weather, or it should be deleted.

[trfour]

Books. Dallas TX got it's first measurable snow 'Ever' last night, with 3" at DFW Airport! A wonderful white Christmas here!
Terry

[Janet]

Originally Posted by trfour

Books. Dallas TX got it's first measurable snow 'Ever' last night, with 3" at DFW Airport! A wonderful white Christmas here!
Terry

and very slippery roads. Yikes. No sand or salt on these road down here.

[trfour]

Originally Posted by Janet

and very slippery roads. Yikes. No sand or salt on these road down here.

Janet,
here in the Metroplex I was amazed at the great job that TX-DOT and the towns did in sanding the trouble areas, bridges, overpasses, and sections of highways on Christmas Eve. The wind was absolutely howling!
I took my sister Doña and brother in law to DFW airport today for a flight to England to visit with family there for New Years.
Although they don't use rock salt here, as the temperature usually rebounds quite rapidly after an event such as this moves through, it was very evident that all of the roads, to & from were well sanded and pretty much back up to speed.

A Very Happy New Year to Y'All,
Terry

[Janet]

Glad you got to DFW ok. The roads here in Plano were not as good. Early Christmas morning couldn't go over 20 miles an hour. I wanted to wait until the sun came up to melt the roads but had 2 little ones waiting for me to arrive so they could see what Santa had brought them. Looks like more precip coming tomorrow.

Happy New Year to you also!

[trfour]

I am 100% for reducing air pollutants, however of all the studies done over time, ice core and earths crust drilling's, long time studies have shown that when the earth has warmed, it was also followed by an ice age. "I did not make this up".

Now, some of today's scientists, are trying their best to override Mother Nature.

Do Trust in Her!!!!

Experts?; Despite cold Snap, earth still warming.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34735022/ns/weather/

I think that they are looking for a way to blame the next ice age on earth's warming.

Terry
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Even when the experts all agree, they may well be mistaken. - Bertrand Russell ( 1872-1970)

[SIKSUKR]

Good post TR. To add to the argument, Cuba had a low of 29, the lowest temp it's EVER recorded.