Registration Increase?? What the He double hockey sticks!

Wolfeboro_Baja · 12-14-2009, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by wifi

The exact reason no one in their right mind wants a sales or income tax in NH. Just control spending instead.

I'm curious, if no one wants a sales tax or income tax because they are broad-based taxes, what exactly is a property tax? Because it doesn't get any broader than a property tax!! We all live somewhere and we either pay it directly (as a landowner) or indirectly (as a tenant renting from a landowner).

I would rather pay a tax that's based on my ability to pay (sales or income) than on somebody else's guess at what my property is worth!! And yes, spending does need to be controlled better (unfortunately, that's easier said than done).

tis · 12-14-2009, 01:34 PM

If they got a sales or income tax, they would just spend more. And even if they SAID one of these other taxes would replace property taxes, they could always reinstate them later. And I firmly believe they would. I have never, ever seen a government that has enough money.

Pineedles · 12-14-2009, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by tis

If they got a sales or income tax, they would just spend more. And even if they SAID one of these other taxes would replace property taxes, they could always reinstate them later. And I firmly believe they would. I have never, ever seen a government that has enough money.

You said it! We still have an income tax here in CT after it was adopted nearly 20 years ago as a temporary adjustment to a rough year. BS! Despite adding Slot-machine revenue we're still being taxed higher and higher and neaded for a billion dollar shortfall. If they institute an income tax in NH, it's still not going to satisfy them. They'll always want more.

Airwaves · 12-14-2009, 02:51 PM

Without opening the can of worms that is Sales and Income tax debates, getting back to the issue at hand.

1. The Marine Patrol is funded through boat registations, not the general fund (Taxes).

2. Boat registrations in NH have been on the decline over the past several years. Meaning the budget for the Marine Patrol has been affected.

3. Boat registration fees have not increased while the costs of operating, maintaining the fleet of Marine Patrol boats, and manpower costs has. So couple that with a drop in the funding from the number of boats registered in NH and you get a negative impact on the Marine Patrol budget.

4. If you pay your boat registration bill via the town in which you live or own property, the town takes a cut of the payment, an agent fee if you will, further reducing the amont of money getting to the Marine Patrol

5. Laws approved by the legislature that "don't cost anything" really do!

So with boat registrations dropping and the Marine Patrol not getting funding from taxpayer sources there are two alternatives. Raise the fees or cut the Marine Patrol.

Which do you want to do?

wifi · 12-14-2009, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Wolfeboro_Baja

I would rather pay a tax that's based on my ability to pay (sales or income) than on somebody else's guess at what my property is worth!!......

Lets take a hypothetical example: Suppose you spent most of your money buying a waterfront home on Meredith Neck, and the rest of your money buying a condo in Waterville Valley. Now you have no money left and hence no 'ability to pay' (where have I heard this before?) taxes. Should it be my responsibility to carry the freight on the value of property you now own?

YES, I agree assessments ummm.. lets say have a long way go to before being 'fair'.

Wolfeboro_Baja · 12-14-2009, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by wifi

Lets take a hypothetical example: Suppose you spent most of your money buying a waterfront home on Meredith Neck, and the rest of your money buying a condo in Waterville Valley. Now you have no money left and hence no 'ability to pay' (where have I heard this before?) taxes. Should it be my responsibility to carry the freight on the value of property you now own?

Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but if I don't pay my property taxes in your example, at some point, the town will seize the property for non-payment and eventually auction it off for the taxes due. So no, it's not your responsibility. If I have to pay a tax, I still prefer a tax based on one's ability to pay.

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Originally Posted by wifi

YES, I agree assessments ummm.. lets say have a long way go to before being 'fair'.

They will never be fair.

12-14-2009, 02:51 PM	#4
Airwaves Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: I'm right here! Posts: 1,153 Thanks: 9 Thanked 102 Times in 37 Posts	Why is anyone suprised, it's simple math! Without opening the can of worms that is Sales and Income tax debates, getting back to the issue at hand. 1. The Marine Patrol is funded through boat registations, not the general fund (Taxes). 2. Boat registrations in NH have been on the decline over the past several years. Meaning the budget for the Marine Patrol has been affected. 3. Boat registration fees have not increased while the costs of operating, maintaining the fleet of Marine Patrol boats, and manpower costs has. So couple that with a drop in the funding from the number of boats registered in NH and you get a negative impact on the Marine Patrol budget. 4. If you pay your boat registration bill via the town in which you live or own property, the town takes a cut of the payment, an agent fee if you will, further reducing the amont of money getting to the Marine Patrol 5. Laws approved by the legislature that "don't cost anything" really do! So with boat registrations dropping and the Marine Patrol not getting funding from taxpayer sources there are two alternatives. Raise the fees or cut the Marine Patrol. Which do you want to do?

12-14-2009, 01:34 PM	#2
tis Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 6,782 Thanks: 755 Thanked 1,467 Times in 1,023 Posts	If they got a sales or income tax, they would just spend more. And even if they SAID one of these other taxes would replace property taxes, they could always reinstate them later. And I firmly believe they would. I have never, ever seen a government that has enough money.

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