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The below quote was written before ClimateGate.

"Steve M" is Steve McIntyre, a climate scientist who found the hidden data (archived in Russia) and challenged Mann, saying data was tossed that didn't fit the theory—endangering future government grants.

"This explains why they have been loathe to release their raw data and the methods they use on those data. They have been caught cheating. And once they have one lie out there, other lies must be fabricated to support it. And so we have the wholesale deletion of global rural surface temperature recording stations leaving an urban-biased network that reflects UHI in order to back up their earlier conclusions...(snip)...Most importantly, Steve M’s work shows NO 20th century temperature anomaly. And so again, people who in their hearts believe they want to do something good for their neighbors and future generations have been taken to the cleaners hook, line, and sinker and have been parted from considerable portion of their hard earned income.

"I sincerely feel that someone should go to prison for this. This wasn’t an accident. This was not a mistaken conclusion. This shows that the conclusion was “cooked” from the start. Billions and possibly trillions of dollars have been wasted on this nonsense globally.

"It’s pitchfork and torch time."

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/09/2...stick-is-dead/

The many comments above came out in September of 2009.

Meanwhile, hackers exposed Climatologists' contemptuous 61Mb of e-mails—immediately termed "ClimateGate". In October, the BBC was presented with all of the hacked data for disclosure to the public; however, BBC merely sat on the information. (As has most of the US media).

Just weeks before the Copenhagen Conference, "ClimateGate" was disclosed world-wide on the Internet, assuring the failed conference there.

Originally Posted by Shedwannabe

I don't really know how to introduce this...I'm embarrassed for all who jumped on the "skeptic bandwagon" because you wanted climate researchers to be wrong, without any evidence that there was anything wrong...

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/04/sc...imate.html?hpw

One paragraph from that article:

"The e-mail messages also contained suggestions that Dr. Mann had hidden or destroyed e-mail messages and other information relating to a United Nations climate change report to prevent other scientists from reviewing them. Dr. Mann produced the material in question, and the Pennsylvania State board cleared him of the charge".

Can someone explain how Mann was cleared of the charge of hiding data?

Originally Posted by Shedwannabe

"...EVERY peer-reviewed study supports and continues to support the evidence that climate change is caused by human activity and is making things worse..."

A Brit ex-pat (at the same source as above) has stated my own view:

"What chance have schoolchildren got of forming their own considered opinions when they have this tosh forced down their throats without recourse to the alternative point of view and related science?"

BTW: "ClimateGate" released this e-mailed tidbit early-on, which intended to hide a seven-year decline (!) in world temperatures. (Something that eerily conforms to the much-damper and cooler temps around Lake Winnipesaukee's post-2002 seasons).

"I’ve just completed Mike’s Nature trick of adding in the real temps
to each series for the last 20 years (ie from 1981 onwards) amd (sic) from
1961 for Keith’s to hide the decline."

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/11/1...iles-released/

Sound like a Climate Scientist to you?