Lake Host documenting personal info?

[LIforrelaxin]

This is the problem with the lake host system. I knew at some point this would happen. In this day and age it is to easy for people to become paranoid. And feel as though big brother is watching them. While I agree with educating people about milfoil and other invasive non native plant species, I don't agree with recording any information what so ever for any purpose.

I understand exactly what they are trying to do with that information, because they are tracking the same information at lakes and ramps where milfoil exist. Now what do people think is going to happen when your bow number show up at a ramp where milfoil all of a sudden shows up and also show up with in a reasonable prior period of time at a ramp will milfoil is known to be a problem?

No I am not paranoid.... it is simply the truth... the liberalistic society that creates these programs is looking for ways to blame and target people to pay for the problem.

I was originally thinking of participating in the Lake Host program myself, until I heard that they wanted to track and take information. That is just the wrong way to approach these problem.... education is how it needs to be done, not through tactics that can lead to blame.

[This'nThat]

Originally Posted by LIforrelaxin

No I am not paranoid.... it is simply the truth... the liberalistic society that creates these programs is looking for ways to blame and target people to pay for the problem.

I was originally thinking of participating in the Lake Host program myself, until I heard that they wanted to track and take information. That is just the wrong way to approach these problem.... education is how it needs to be done, not through tactics that can lead to blame.

There's an information security concept called PII (Personally Identifiable Information). It's any personal information that can be used to identify people. When organizations collect PII data, they are obligated to get your permission first, and then tell you exactly what it's going to be used for. They also are obligated to not collect PII data on you if you don't want them to.

What is PII data? It's a number of things. See here. You'll notice that Vehicle Identification information is one of them. In fact, why do newspapers and TV always obscure the license plate when they show someone on TV? Because that info is PII, that's why.

The Lake Host program needs to revise its policies. They are not allowed to record PII data without permission. A good lawyer can make some hay on this.

[Shedwannabe]

Originally Posted by This'nThat

When organizations collect PII data, they are obligated to get your permission first, and then tell you exactly what it's going to be used for. They also are obligated to not collect PII data on you if you don't want them to.

Interesting link, but where does it say what you allege? There is nothing in that article that has anything to do with your claim. The closest is: "The U.S. Senate has recently proposed the Privacy Act of 2005, which attempts to strictly limit the display, purchase, or sale of PII without the person's consent." Now that may have passed, and result it what you claimed, but the link you gave does not reveal that, if in fact it happened.

So, you may be correct, but have provided no proof or in fact any evidence suggesting you might be correct.

[This'nThat]

Originally Posted by Shedwannabe

Interesting link, but where does it say what you allege? There is nothing in that article that has anything to do with your claim. The closest is: "The U.S. Senate has recently proposed the Privacy Act of 2005, which attempts to strictly limit the display, purchase, or sale of PII without the person's consent." Now that may have passed, and result it what you claimed, but the link you gave does not reveal that, if in fact it happened.

So, you may be correct, but have provided no proof or in fact any evidence suggesting you might be correct.

The link was to provide a list of examples of PII data, which includes vehicle identification information.

[garysanfran]

Originally Posted by This'nThat

There's an information security concept called PII (Personally Identifiable Information). It's any personal information that can be used to identify people. When organizations collect PII data, they are obligated to get your permission first, and then tell you exactly what it's going to be used for. They also are obligated to not collect PII data on you if you don't want them to.

What is PII data? It's a number of things. See here. You'll notice that Vehicle Identification information is one of them. In fact, why do newspapers and TV always obscure the license plate when they show someone on TV? Because that info is PII, that's why.

The Lake Host program needs to revise its policies. They are not allowed to record PII data without permission. A good lawyer can make some hay on this.

OMG!!! you want to get a lawyer involved with this?

[This'nThat]

Originally Posted by garysanfran

OMG!!! you want to get a lawyer involved with this?

Did I say that? Nope. BUT -- if anybody misuses personal data, that is serious. I think the people who instinctively resist requests for this data are correct -- and ANYBODY who doesn't respect rights to privacy are opening a can of worms that, unfortunately, will ultimately involve lawyers. It would be better for the lake hosts to know that linking vehicle license numbers with names and/or addresses is skating on thin legal ice.