Weirs Bridge Toll

GunzandRoses · 08-24-2010, 08:46 PM

On the docket for the Octobers State Senate meeting will be a question regarding the installation of a “pilot” toll at the Weirs Beach Channel set to open during the Summer or 2011. This toll will affect all traffic coming and going underneath the Weirs Bridge. If all goes well and the pilot is successful, additional tolls will be placed in other high traffic areas including Wolfeboro Bay, Alton Bay, Center Harbor, and Meredith Bay in an effort to recoup some of the $600 million dollar deficit currently facing the state of NH. Toll fares will be determined by the size of the vessel and will range anywhere from $1-$4 dollars.

I agree that the current deficit is scary to think about but come on, these people cannot be serious. Please write to you State Senators and ask them not to pass the bill! What happened to the good old NH spirit of Live Free or Die? Haven’t they already done enough damage to the lake by imposing the speed limit? I’d like to see what the income generated from those tickets looks like!

GTO · 08-24-2010, 08:54 PM

Looking at this post and your previous 3.....I am now starting to realize that the 60's were very good to you

Blue Pig · 08-24-2010, 09:06 PM

"Vote no to the toll in the weirs beach hole"

RI Swamp Yankee · 08-24-2010, 09:24 PM

Will they have a high speed E-Z Pass lane?

codeman671 · 08-24-2010, 09:43 PM

First Bear-Sharks, then this? What is this lake turning into?

VitaBene · 08-24-2010, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by RI Swamp Yankee

Will they have a high speed E-Z Pass lane?

A long as it is less than 45/25 RI

trfour · 08-24-2010, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by RI Swamp Yankee

Will they have a high speed E-Z Pass lane?

If this so called "Pilot Toll " ever should get installed, they would just find another way to misappropriate the moneys and continue on to raise them until there ain't no fish left in the Lake either!

Elected are looking and thinking about ' pulling the wool '. Remember that WE pay their retirement plans, and they take from our's.

They supposedly 'borrowed' moneys from our social security funds, and have put these in jeopardy as well!

Once a 'pilot' toll gets put in place, It is there for life!
WE pay every day, in more ways than one!

So PLEASE VOTE NO for a toll on our Lake, as if we haven't payed enough ALREADY!

Terry
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Greene's Basin Girl · 08-25-2010, 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by VitaBene

A long as it is less than 45/25 RI

Are they not going to let us through if we don't have any money with us? A toll on the lake. How ridiculous! Next the towns will begin to charge us when we park at their town docks.

ApS · 08-25-2010, 02:42 AM

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Originally Posted by GunzandRoses

"...On the docket for the Octobers State Senate meeting will be a question regarding the installation of a “pilot” toll at the Weirs Beach Channel set to open during the Summer or 2011. This toll will affect all traffic coming and going underneath the Weirs Bridge..."

Never has the phrase "Tax that man behind the tree" ever been so right!

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Originally Posted by codeman671

First Bear-Sharks, then this? What is this lake turning into?

You've put your finger on it.

VitaBene · 08-25-2010, 05:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Green's Basin Girl

Are they not going to let us through if we don't have any money with us? A toll on the lake. How ridiculous! Next the towns will begin to charge us when we park at their town docks.

On a serious note don't some towns charge if you are not a resident?

TOAD · 08-25-2010, 05:39 AM

Is there any precident for this type of toll anywhere else outside of NH?

I have never heard of one but it doesn't mean that they don'e exist. Launch fees, lock fees, and the like are already in place but a toll for passing under a bridge? Ridiculous! This one should get dead-headed before it blooms. IMHO.

OCDACTIVE · 08-25-2010, 06:58 AM

Can you imagine the back up at the bridge? On busy weekdays with a current it is hard enough keeping position... Can you just think what some unexperienced boaters will do to said toll? This will never go through.

MJM · 08-25-2010, 07:09 AM

It's a joke, people.....relaaaaaaaxxxxx.......

Happy Gourmand · 08-25-2010, 07:16 AM

And I'm thinking that Governor's Island and Long Island bridges will be next!!

AC2717 · 08-25-2010, 07:17 AM

IT is way to early in the morning for me

Please tell me that this is just a joke seriously

Argie's Wife · 08-25-2010, 07:32 AM

Oh good grief...

The sad thing is that with all the recent tax/fee hikes we've seen, this wouldn't be that hard to believe...

Lakegeezer · 08-25-2010, 07:40 AM

I know it is getting chilly, but is it really April 1'st already?

TiltonBB · 08-25-2010, 07:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GunzandRoses

On the docket for the Octobers State Senate meeting will be a question regarding the installation of a “pilot” toll at the Weirs Beach Channel set to open during the Summer or 2011. This toll will affect all traffic coming and going underneath the Weirs Bridge. If all goes well and the pilot is successful, additional tolls will be placed in other high traffic areas including Wolfeboro Bay, Alton Bay, Center Harbor, and Meredith Bay in an effort to recoup some of the $600 million dollar deficit currently facing the state of NH. Toll fares will be determined by the size of the vessel and will range anywhere from $1-$4 dollars.

This post has to be a joke. As foolish as our legislators are they would not consider this. If they wanted more revenue from boaters they would just raise registration fees. (Not that I would agree with that either).

Onshore · 08-25-2010, 07:45 AM

The Senate doesn't even have their calender for October posted yet. We have elctions this year. LSR's, which are requests to create bills, don't get filed until after the elections. I have heard NOTHIN about this idea beyond seeing this thread. I would certainly like to know where this information is coming from.

GTO · 08-25-2010, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Acres per Second

Never has the phrase "Tax that man behind the tree" ever been so right!

You've put your finger on it.

"Weirs beach Troll". Isn't it a coincidence that Gunzandroses has posted 4 times since joining and his buddy Bluepig has been quick to respond or thank him each time

JayDV · 08-25-2010, 08:47 AM

If the toll gets installed it would be a perfect place for RFID tags attached to a required state issued registration tags and bridge mounted cameras to monitor and bill watercraft as it passes through the "toll" point. And it could very well be cost effective to do so.

The next step would be GPS RFID chips with receiver/transmitter stations through out the lake, islands and mainland, to monitor general lake traffic/watercraft speeds. Yup, I said it before, the technology is here, and it looks like someone may be finding a way to utilize it.

GunzandRoses · 08-25-2010, 08:51 AM

Heard another man talking about this this monring while standing in lineover at Dunkin Donuts this morning. There is no way that they can really follow through with this is there? You guys are right ... what's next? Docking fees? Gas surcharges?

Pontoon Goon · 08-25-2010, 09:21 AM

Timing could not be better for Thurstons. They just gave up Cobolts in order to take on a submarine line. Submerge at the beach and surface at the Nas. Perfect.

Lake Fan · 08-25-2010, 09:29 AM

Pilot toll? More like a pilot troll....

tmm366 · 08-25-2010, 09:51 AM

Paugus bay marinas, restaurants and hotels are gonna love this. Just pass a sales tax and or income tax and get it over with.

brk-lnt · 08-25-2010, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by GunzandRoses

Heard another man talking about this this monring while standing in lineover at Dunkin Donuts this morning. There is no way that they can really follow through with this is there? You guys are right ... what's next? Docking fees? Gas surcharges?

Sorry dude, but you need to work on your material some more. At the very least, if you're going to try to bait people, build up an account for a while posting normal stuff, then try to float one of your flame-bait topics.

You're trying to lob grenades ( http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/war...tm/grenade.htm ) but they're duds.

Kracken · 08-25-2010, 10:57 AM

I think this could work. Think about it…

What are the two biggest problems on the lake?

Not enough MP and Bear Shark.

We could give Bear Shark the job as toll collector. A job would keep him out of trouble and the money he collected could help fund the Marine patrol.

Now if we could just figure out what to do with the UFO.

brk-lnt · 08-25-2010, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Kracken

Now if we could just figure out what to do with the UFO.

Aerial enforcement of 100MPH boats and rafting infractions? As I'm sure you know, any UFO above an entry-level model will be equipped with fricken laser beams. Seems like a perfect job for them (when they're not conducting flyover tours).

Begonezvous · 08-25-2010, 11:04 AM

You obviously have way too much time on your hands and you're just not that funny.

Sorry, I call it like I see it.

webmaster · 08-25-2010, 11:33 AM

Sorry folks, GunzandRoses just tried to post a profanity filled reply and you won't be seeing him here any more.

Since no one has posted any other articles or evidence that this somewhat wacky idea is actually being considered I'll assume at this point that he was just trolling.

GTO · 08-25-2010, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by webmaster

Sorry folks, GunzandRoses just tried to post a profanity filled reply and you won't be seeing him here any more.

Since no one has posted any other articles or evidence that this somewhat wacky idea is actually being considered I'll assume at this point that he was just trolling.

I miss him already

sa meredith · 08-25-2010, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by webmaster

Sorry folks, GunzandRoses just tried to post a profanity filled reply and you won't be seeing him here any more.

Since no one has posted any other articles or evidence that this somewhat wacky idea is actually being considered I'll assume at this point that he was just trolling.

Ah come on...Just a quick peak?

RailroadJoe · 08-25-2010, 12:40 PM

How about having the nice legislative people pay for their parking in Concord. Say about $10.00 per day.

Seeker · 08-25-2010, 01:49 PM

I, I mean the state, will have the official toll basket hanging from the bridge this weekend. As a test I, I mean they, will only charge $1 per boat. Please support my sport.

VitaBene · 08-25-2010, 02:21 PM

Seeker, How many boats on average pass through the Weirs Channel on a nice summer weekend day- you will be rich!

webmaster · 08-25-2010, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by GTO

"Weirs beach Troll". Isn't it a coincidence that Gunzandroses has posted 4 times since joining and his buddy Bluepig has been quick to respond or thank him each time

Thanks for pointing that out. A quick check shows that they both have the same IP number!

AC2717 · 08-25-2010, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by webmaster

Thanks for pointing that out. A quick check shows that they both have the same IP number!

Off with his head as well!!

jeffatsquam · 08-25-2010, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by webmaster

Thanks for pointing that out. A quick check shows that they both have the same IP number!

Nice job GTO moderation with out moderators

NHskier · 08-25-2010, 07:28 PM

I rent a slip at Thurston's so think I should have first shot at toll collection.

XCR-700 · 08-25-2010, 08:50 PM

Now thats funny,,,

Thats almost as good a the toll gate in Blazing Saddles,,, I can almost hear some guy stuck at the toll gate screaming at his wife or kids to go back to the boardwalk and get a load of dimes,,,,

So whats next, on the docket for outrageous things to propose restricting on Winnipesaukee???

How about restricting the color palette you can choose from because as we all know boats with certain colors are BAD boats!!! Nope, we don’t want any BAD boats on the lake,,,

Or maybe children,,, How about a ban on children that can yell over a certain decibel because its bad for everyone when kids make too much noise having fun,,,

Or maybe kids that can swim too fast because they could pose a safety risk,,,

And while they at it, might as well set a buffer limit as to how close they can swim to each other or to the shore,,,

And I certainly hope they will be enforcing a NWZ and No Rafting Zones on kids,,, those little buggers are just wreaking havoc on the shorelines and peoples enjoyment of that nice secluded and serene Winnipesaukee habitat,,,

Yup, I’ll bet we can come up with a bunch of ways to turn Winnipesaukee into someones idea of a Ansel Adams picture,,,

Just remember what happens when you ask Government to step in and regulate everything you might ever think of,,,, they will do it!!!

And guess what, you get to pay for it FOREVER!!!

Yup lets just watch those taxes going up and up and up,,,

So bring on the toll and the regulations and the taxes and those of us who only visit Winnipesaukee a few times a year will still come up, we might not enjoy it as much as in days past, but we will probably still come, and you folks who live on the lake can ENJOY paying the increased taxes FOREVER, Forever, forever!!!

tis · 08-26-2010, 06:54 AM

Don't give them any idea!! They can come up with crazy ones all by themselves!

Rattlesnake Guy · 08-26-2010, 09:41 PM

i would expect them to put the toll booth in the middle of the broads to maximize the number of tolls collected.

BroadHopper · 08-27-2010, 07:52 AM

with a gang plank to walk the trolls on is badly needed.

The Weirs Beach Toll will pay for the vessel and plank!

Winnipesaukee · 08-29-2010, 08:15 AM

no-engine · 08-31-2010, 07:28 PM

Travel the intra-coastal waterways with many bridges to be lifted and canals & locks to pass through, and I have never heard of such a
"HAZARD TO NAVIGATION"!

Absolutely unbelievable; someone is pulling legs! Remove the entire thread!

John A. Birdsall · 09-02-2010, 02:18 PM

Wal-mart might get upset if Fat and Lazy less takes the toll collectors job. He won't have time to visit his favorite place.

08-24-2010, 08:46 PM	#1
GunzandRoses Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Coming by way of the dirty waters in MA, I currently reside in the Lakes Region w/my 12 ponies. Posts: 5 Thanks: 1 Thanked 12 Times in 3 Posts	Weirs Bridge Toll On the docket for the Octobers State Senate meeting will be a question regarding the installation of a “pilot” toll at the Weirs Beach Channel set to open during the Summer or 2011. This toll will affect all traffic coming and going underneath the Weirs Bridge. If all goes well and the pilot is successful, additional tolls will be placed in other high traffic areas including Wolfeboro Bay, Alton Bay, Center Harbor, and Meredith Bay in an effort to recoup some of the $600 million dollar deficit currently facing the state of NH. Toll fares will be determined by the size of the vessel and will range anywhere from $1-$4 dollars. I agree that the current deficit is scary to think about but come on, these people cannot be serious. Please write to you State Senators and ask them not to pass the bill! What happened to the good old NH spirit of Live Free or Die? Haven’t they already done enough damage to the lake by imposing the speed limit? I’d like to see what the income generated from those tickets looks like!

08-24-2010, 08:54 PM	#2
GTO Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 1,081 Thanks: 338 Thanked 349 Times in 161 Posts	what the..... Looking at this post and your previous 3.....I am now starting to realize that the 60's were very good to you __________________ GTO

08-24-2010, 09:24 PM	#4
RI Swamp Yankee Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: North Kingstown RI Posts: 688 Thanks: 143 Thanked 83 Times in 55 Posts	Will they have a high speed E-Z Pass lane? __________________ Gene ~ aka "another RI Swamp Yankee"

08-25-2010, 05:39 AM	#11
TOAD Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Soon to be Moultonboro Posts: 258 Thanks: 1 Thanked 81 Times in 34 Posts	Is there any precident for this type of toll anywhere else outside of NH? I have never heard of one but it doesn't mean that they don'e exist. Launch fees, lock fees, and the like are already in place but a toll for passing under a bridge? Ridiculous! This one should get dead-headed before it blooms. IMHO. __________________ "Government is not reason, it is not eloquence, it is force; like fire, a troublesome servant and a fearful master. Never for a moment should it be left to irresponsible action.....Unknown....but attributed to George Washington

08-25-2010, 06:58 AM	#12
OCDACTIVE Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Fort Myers FL / Moultonboro Posts: 1,045 Thanks: 444 Thanked 574 Times in 178 Posts	Can you imagine the back up at the bridge? On busy weekdays with a current it is hard enough keeping position... Can you just think what some unexperienced boaters will do to said toll? This will never go through. __________________ Have you had your Vessel Inspected Yet?

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08-24-2010, 09:06 PM	#3
Blue Pig Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 14 Thanks: 5 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	"Vote no to the toll in the weirs beach hole"

08-24-2010, 09:43 PM	#5
codeman671 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,454 Thanks: 220 Thanked 802 Times in 480 Posts	First Bear-Sharks, then this? What is this lake turning into?

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08-25-2010, 07:09 AM	#13
MJM Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 262 Thanks: 0 Thanked 23 Times in 11 Posts	It's a joke, people.....relaaaaaaaxxxxx.......

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08-25-2010, 07:16 AM	#14
Happy Gourmand Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Ruskin FL Posts: 1,027 Thanks: 188 Thanked 322 Times in 179 Posts	Weirs Bridge toll... And I'm thinking that Governor's Island and Long Island bridges will be next!!

08-25-2010, 07:17 AM	#15
AC2717 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Maynard, MA & Paugus Bay Posts: 2,564 Thanks: 753 Thanked 353 Times in 265 Posts	IT is way to early in the morning for me Please tell me that this is just a joke seriously __________________ Capt. of the "No Worries"

08-25-2010, 07:32 AM	#16
Argie's Wife Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Alton Posts: 1,908 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 533 Thanked 579 Times in 260 Posts	Oh good grief... The sad thing is that with all the recent tax/fee hikes we've seen, this wouldn't be that hard to believe... Last edited by Argie's Wife; 08-25-2010 at 12:36 PM.

08-25-2010, 07:40 AM	#17
Lakegeezer Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Moultonboro, NH Posts: 1,676 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 353 Thanked 637 Times in 289 Posts	Don't feed the toll I know it is getting chilly, but is it really April 1'st already? Attached Images __________________ -lg

08-25-2010, 07:45 AM	#19
Onshore Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 502 Thanks: 12 Thanked 423 Times in 145 Posts	The Senate doesn't even have their calender for October posted yet. We have elctions this year. LSR's, which are requests to create bills, don't get filed until after the elections. I have heard NOTHIN about this idea beyond seeing this thread. I would certainly like to know where this information is coming from.

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08-25-2010, 08:47 AM	#21
JayDV Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Fairfield, CT & island vacation Posts: 97 Thanks: 8 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Don't laugh about EZ Pass If the toll gets installed it would be a perfect place for RFID tags attached to a required state issued registration tags and bridge mounted cameras to monitor and bill watercraft as it passes through the "toll" point. And it could very well be cost effective to do so. The next step would be GPS RFID chips with receiver/transmitter stations through out the lake, islands and mainland, to monitor general lake traffic/watercraft speeds. Yup, I said it before, the technology is here, and it looks like someone may be finding a way to utilize it.

08-25-2010, 08:51 AM	#22
GunzandRoses Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Coming by way of the dirty waters in MA, I currently reside in the Lakes Region w/my 12 ponies. Posts: 5 Thanks: 1 Thanked 12 Times in 3 Posts	Heard another man talking about this this monring while standing in lineover at Dunkin Donuts this morning. There is no way that they can really follow through with this is there? You guys are right ... what's next? Docking fees? Gas surcharges?

08-25-2010, 09:21 AM	#23
Pontoon Goon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Stoneham Ma./ Meredith Posts: 141 Thanks: 339 Thanked 67 Times in 27 Posts	Opportunity knocks Timing could not be better for Thurstons. They just gave up Cobolts in order to take on a submarine line. Submerge at the beach and surface at the Nas. Perfect.

08-25-2010, 09:29 AM	#24
Lake Fan Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Whortleberry Island Posts: 123 Thanks: 16 Thanked 52 Times in 30 Posts	Pilot toll? More like a pilot troll....

08-25-2010, 09:51 AM	#25
tmm366 Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Laconia, nh Posts: 31 Thanks: 1 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Paugus bay marinas, restaurants and hotels are gonna love this. Just pass a sales tax and or income tax and get it over with.

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08-25-2010, 10:57 AM	#27
Kracken Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Alton Posts: 223 Thanks: 46 Thanked 130 Times in 50 Posts	I think this could work. Think about it… What are the two biggest problems on the lake? Not enough MP and Bear Shark. We could give Bear Shark the job as toll collector. A job would keep him out of trouble and the money he collected could help fund the Marine patrol. Now if we could just figure out what to do with the UFO.

08-25-2010, 11:04 AM	#29
Begonezvous Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Tuftonboro Posts: 50 Thanks: 7 Thanked 17 Times in 13 Posts	Comment on Gunzandroses You obviously have way too much time on your hands and you're just not that funny. Sorry, I call it like I see it.

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08-25-2010, 12:40 PM	#33
RailroadJoe Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 620 Thanks: 259 Thanked 158 Times in 100 Posts	How about having the nice legislative people pay for their parking in Concord. Say about $10.00 per day.

08-25-2010, 01:49 PM	#34
Seeker Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Effingham Posts: 408 Thanks: 37 Thanked 19 Times in 15 Posts	I, I mean the state, will have the official toll basket hanging from the bridge this weekend. As a test I, I mean they, will only charge $1 per boat. Please support my sport.

08-25-2010, 02:21 PM	#35
VitaBene Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Moultonborough Posts: 3,571 Thanks: 1,600 Thanked 1,629 Times in 837 Posts	Seeker, How many boats on average pass through the Weirs Channel on a nice summer weekend day- you will be rich!

08-25-2010, 07:28 PM	#39
NHskier Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 291 Thanks: 43 Thanked 36 Times in 33 Posts	I rent a slip at Thurston's so think I should have first shot at toll collection. __________________ NHskier