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Old 05-28-2011, 06:44 PM   #1
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Some nice sunny summer weekends bring out a lot of boats to the lake no doubt about it. Is it crowded because of speed? I doubt it. Campers are not the only ones who may decide not to boat on those certain busy weekends. If I want to boat on one of those nice summer weekends I know when to do it to avoid the crowds. I go out before 10 AM and after 5 PM. Even on the busiest of weekend days there are not many out in the morning and around dinner time. In fact the lake often flattens out after 5 PM and it is better for water skiing.

Fast or slow there are busy times and places on the weekends. Bear Islander, ask the camp directors why they are not using the lake on the busy weekends now. Speed limits are not the answer.

If camp directors have a problem with boaters breaking the law they should call the Marine Patrol. All the laws prior to the Speed Limit law would take care of any problems. The speed limit restricts a very small percentage of boaters.

The lake can get too crowded on a nice weekend. IF you believe that more boats will come to the lake now that there are permanent speed limits then the weeekends will be even more crowded with boats. What will the camp directors use for an excuse then?

Speed limits will not reduce the number of boats on the lake on a sunny summer weekend it will probably lead to an even more crowded lake.
It's funny how so many people think they know more than the experts. You see it all the time, people that have never been in law enforcement but they know more about it than the police do. People that have never taught a class but know more about it than teachers do.

People that have never directed a camp but they know more about running a camp than camp directors do.

The 191 Children's Camp Directors that comprise the New Hampshire Camp Directors Association voted UNANIMOUSLY to support speed limits. But hey, what do they know.
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Old 05-28-2011, 07:10 PM   #2
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It's funny how so many people think they know more than the experts.

The 191 Children's Camp Directors that comprise the New Hampshire Camp Directors Association voted UNANIMOUSLY to support speed limits. But hey, what do they know.
Good question. Tell me, what do camp directors know? What sort of qualifications does one need to become camp director? How do those qualifications apply to the science of judging safe boat operating speeds? Why should camp director opinions about boating speed limits carry more weight than the opinion of the director of NH Marine Patrol? Why should anyone care what camp directors think about anything but directing camps? What do camp directors do for the 10 months that camps are closed?

I agree, it's funny how so many (at least 191) people think they know more than the experts.
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Old 05-28-2011, 07:15 PM   #3
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What do camp directors do for the 10 months that camps are closed? .

They are school teachers. They TEACH your children. NB
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It's funny how so many people think they know more than the experts. You see it all the time, people that have never been in law enforcement but they know more about it than the police do. People that have never taught a class but know more about it than teachers do.

People that have never directed a camp but they know more about running a camp than camp directors do.

The 191 Children's Camp Directors that comprise the New Hampshire Camp Directors Association voted UNANIMOUSLY to support speed limits. But hey, what do they know.
EXPERTS: ??? How dare anyone challenge the experts. Maybe Common Sence works better than Advanced Degrees....from the "Halls Of Ivy". Would you be more impressed if I had (PHD) after my name,?? NB
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Old 05-29-2011, 08:13 AM   #5
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It's funny how so many people think they know more than the experts. You see it all the time, people that have never been in law enforcement but they know more about it than the police do. People that have never taught a class but know more about it than teachers do.

People that have never directed a camp but they know more about running a camp than camp directors do.

The 191 Children's Camp Directors that comprise the New Hampshire Camp Directors Association voted UNANIMOUSLY to support speed limits. But hey, what do they know.
These same camp directors lobbied the legislature to remove a provision in a recent bill that would have required a whistle or horn in a "human powered" vessel. Sure, they care about kids and safety!! Let's hear it BI - "oh, they only care about one issue - speed limits. They don't care about safety, global warming, the devaluation of the dollar, the price of gas, whale hunting or Darfur." When will people see through all this rubbish anyway? Answer: Never.
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...Hey GRneck..awesome first-hand account of your encounter with badly behaved, disrespectful, and ignorant children...under SUPERVISION of a "camp counselor"...typical, and makes you wonder what their PARENTS are like.?....I go deaf and see red when people make the "It's to save the children..." argument...in my mind, camps = glorified baby-sitters these days...I stand by the "..use your common sense, or SOMEBODY is going to regulate the regulations..." for you...and DON'T be pee'in on my leg and tell me it's raining......COWBOY, as defined by the people who use the term with disdain, is usually used to describe someone having way too much fun, than the person using the term "COWBOY"....just sayin...
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Nhbuoy absolutly right the cars around that camp on drop off and pickup days are high end, BMW, mercedes, cadilacs, Lincolns, etc with Mass and NY plates.
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...check out the front page of the "Boating & Recreation Guide/2011" that Weirs Times produces with NHBM...it just made me chuckle......
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