Recommendation for Vinyl Siding Installer

CateP · 08-28-2013, 11:53 AM

Hi there.
Searched this forum before posting thinking there MUST be posts about this topic, but last one was 2005.

Anyway, I am helping out a friend who does not live here year-round, but wants to have her garage vinyl sided to match her house. Can anyone recommend vinyl siding installers in the area?

Hoping to get three quotes.

Thanks in advance.

BroadHopper · 08-28-2013, 12:45 PM

Who still use them? I do know they cause rot underneath the siding and that they look so cheap.

Sorry, they use to be so many vinyl siding contractors that we use to compare them to used car salesmen.

ITD · 08-28-2013, 02:48 PM

Hi Cate,

I have two houses, one with cedar claps and the other with vinyl. If I had my choice, I would not buy another house that needs to be painted. We have been in the vinyl sided house since it was new, 15 years now, and the vinyl still looks like new. I've had it pressure washed once, about 2 years ago. The house with the clapboards, looks great for about 2 or 3 years then needs attention. Just make sure you use quality siding, my house has the high grade certainteed. Don't know any contractors up here, but don't let the naysayers dissuade you, I have vinyl and love it and it looks great.

WinniQueen · 08-28-2013, 03:40 PM

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SIKSUKR · 08-28-2013, 04:24 PM

[QUOTE=BroadHopper;211122]Who still use them? I do know they cause rot underneath the siding and that they look so cheap.
[QUOTE]

I beg to differ.I chose a vinyl shake and love how it looks....and doesn't want paint!Not sure where you came up with the rot theory.If anything vinyl has much more air movement through it than wood clapboards.All Azek trim.Zero painting.

tis · 08-28-2013, 05:23 PM

The new vinyl shingles look a LOT better than they used to. I love no maintenance now too.

Slickcraft · 08-28-2013, 06:16 PM

BH, you are a bit out of date on this. Vinyl is used on a good share of new homes and top quality material is available.

Our prior home in Danville had quality vinyl. 15 years ago we moved up here to a very nice house except for the cedar siding. I am now in the process of my 3rd application of stain. We have been looking for a smaller house off the hillside and immediately reject any without vinyl siding. I have had quite enough siding maintenance.

fpartri497 · 08-28-2013, 06:50 PM

I have owned my home for 24 yrs. now and every five years I have to power wash and stain the cedar clareboards . I will never buy a house like this again with this siding

chasedawg · 08-28-2013, 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BroadHopper

Who still use them? I do know they cause rot underneath the siding and that they look so cheap.

Sorry, they use to be so many vinyl siding contractors that we use to compare them to used car salesmen.

Broadhopper where did you come up with your rot discovery? You are so wrong. Please don't just come on the forum and spread inaccurate information. Your added statement about used car salesmen is so inappropriate. Please add some value when you decide to make statements to a public forum.

sky's · 08-29-2013, 06:18 AM

BH is somewhat correct it is nearly impossible to waterproof your house with vinyl siding. until you're in the business of repairing houses and building them you would not understand this. getting 3 quotes great but understand each of them , understand their process for going around your windows and doors because that is where most leaks occur with vinyl siding. good luck dont take the lowest estimate go with the person who spends the most time with you explaining their techniques and the materials they use. good luck.

wow what a summer

tis · 08-29-2013, 06:54 AM

You could also try the "cement" sidings. They are pretty maintenance free too. We have that on our house now (clapboards) as well as the new vinyl shingles which look an awful lot like wood now.

sluggo · 08-29-2013, 08:04 AM

I had Paul Baldwin , building & design side my house a couple of years ago. He did a fantastic job and his pricing was right on the money. Give him a call 603-264-4582

ishoot308 · 08-29-2013, 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sky's

BH is somewhat correct it is nearly impossible to waterproof your house with vinyl siding. until you're in the business of repairing houses and building them you would not understand this. getting 3 quotes great but understand each of them , understand their process for going around your windows and doors because that is where most leaks occur with vinyl siding. good luck dont take the lowest estimate go with the person who spends the most time with you explaining their techniques and the materials they use. good luck.

wow what a summer

I'm sure you know this but vinyl siding or any siding for that matter is not supposed to be waterproof. All siding works off the rain screen principle. Vinyl siding allows for air circulation and proper drainage. What and how the substrate is applied will determine how waterproof the exterior of the house is.

Dan

Orion · 08-29-2013, 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BroadHopper

Who still use them? I do know they cause rot underneath the siding and that they look so cheap.

Sorry, they use to be so many vinyl siding contractors that we use to compare them to used car salesmen.

Clearly a misinformed post. I had my winter home vinyl sided 30 years ago and it still looks as good as the day it was installed. How many times would I have had to repaint in that period if it was wood (an organic material that absorbs water when the paint seal deteriorates...and was used 1,000 years ago.) also, there are high-quality vinyl "shingles" that are pretty tough to distinguish from their inferior wood counterparts.

My summer lake house (of 12yrs) is also maintenance-free vinyl and I would never go any other way.

DickR · 08-29-2013, 02:49 PM

To add to Dan's comment in post #13, here is an excellent paper on the subject of having a rainscreen gap behind the siding, an important detail for any new home or residing job. It's from a noted building science expert:
http://www.buildingscience.com/docum...ind-the-gap-eh

BroadHopper · 08-29-2013, 03:10 PM

My dad had the cheap thin vinyl sidings that use to cost an arm and a leg back in the 60's. Bird drippings practically melted the sidings and the south side faded pretty fast. After a decade of BS from the mfg. we replace the vinyl sidings with fibrecrete. When we took off the vinyl sidings the old clapboards were rotted and the water channeled onto the sills and rotted them out too. My father was a carpenter and he saw his share of rot under vinyl sidings. The fibrecrete is much more durable and still in use.

I notice the vinyl shingles aka certainteed are a lot thicker and more durable than the old vinyl siding. I'm sure there must be better vinyl sidings today, however I was looking at a brand new stick built home that had the flimsy vinyl siding of old. They still make them. It was buckling all over the house and the seams shows. Maybe half a$$ installation? I don't know.

sky's · 08-29-2013, 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ishoot308

I'm sure you know this but vinyl siding or any siding for that matter is not supposed to be waterproof. All siding works off the rain screen principle. Vinyl siding allows for air circulation and proper drainage. What and how the substrate is applied will determine how waterproof the exterior of the house is.

Dan

figure of speech on waterproofing, poorly installed vinyl like improper use of j channel can cause alot of damage to homes . was not to trying to reinvent the wheel. hope everybody had a great summer. best wishes to all.

Fargo · 09-01-2013, 06:43 AM

Jim French Home Improvements 524-8888 vinyl sided a friends house 5 years ago, attention to details made it look fantastic. For other folks, if your paint is failing in a few short years it may be caused by interior house moisture trying to escape. An energy audit might determine why you need to paint a house every few years. ( I don't paint, do energy audits or vinyl siding )

DickR · 09-01-2013, 01:06 PM

On the subject of paint failing within a few years, here is a link to an article titled: "Rain-Screen Walls: a Better Way to Install Siding," from Fine Homebuilding 137 , pp. 86-91 March 1, 2001.

http://www.finehomebuilding.com/pdf/021137086.pdf

Yes, paint failure often relates to moisture accumulation behind the siding. Sometimes it's due to excessive moisture leaking outward from within the house, and sometimes it's just due to the inability of siding to dry out quickly after wind-driven rain gets behind the siding, something that can and does happen to almost any kind of siding.

ITD · 09-01-2013, 02:54 PM

I have stain, pretty much fades away after a few years then starts to mildew. Newer house, 6 inch fully insulated walls. The vinyl sided house, no repaint, no fade, needed to be powerwashed after 14 years, looks good as new. No competition in my mind, but I understand you wood aficionados out there.... Have at it!!

XJLPS · 09-02-2013, 08:18 AM

I believe Cate P was looking for a contractor not a bunch of opinions on what's good and bad about vinyl she's just looking for a couple of quote's ... Nothing like making a mountain out of a mole hill ...

eric richard · 09-02-2013, 04:22 PM

Hi Cate,
My name is Eric owner of Eric's & Phil's Home Improvement LLC. I have been installing vinyl siding for 6 years and I would be more then happy to give you a quote on siding the garage. I am fully insured and have good reference.I work all over the lake region.You can contact me at (603)923-3801 or you can email me at Y691234@aol.com. Hope to hear from you soon .
Thank you
Eric Richard
Owner
(603)923-3801 cell
(603)509-3880 office

sky's · 09-02-2013, 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XJLPS

I believe Cate P was looking for a contractor not a bunch of opinions on what's good and bad about vinyl she's just looking for a couple of quote's ... Nothing like making a mountain out of a mole hill ...

i'll second that.

ITD · 09-02-2013, 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XJLPS

I believe Cate P was looking for a contractor not a bunch of opinions on what's good and bad about vinyl she's just looking for a couple of quote's ... Nothing like making a mountain out of a mole hill ...

Hmmmm, you apparently are not too experienced with this internet thingie...

SIKSUKR · 09-03-2013, 07:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BroadHopper

I notice the vinyl shingles aka certainteed are a lot thicker and more durable than the old vinyl siding. I'm sure there must be better vinyl sidings today, however I was looking at a brand new stick built home that had the flimsy vinyl siding of old. They still make them. It was buckling all over the house and the seams shows. Maybe half a$$ installation? I don't know.

Definately a half a$$ instaliation. Vinyl siding buckles if the nails are set tight. The vinyl expands a lot and needs to be able to move.

CateP · 09-03-2013, 08:07 AM

Thanks all for the recommendations for installers. Very much appreciated.

08-28-2013, 12:45 PM	#2
BroadHopper Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Laconia NH Posts: 5,570 Thanks: 3,204 Thanked 1,101 Times in 793 Posts	Vinyl Sidings. Who still use them? I do know they cause rot underneath the siding and that they look so cheap. Sorry, they use to be so many vinyl siding contractors that we use to compare them to used car salesmen. __________________ Someday may never be an actual day.

08-28-2013, 04:24 PM	#5
SIKSUKR Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 5,075 Thanks: 215 Thanked 903 Times in 509 Posts	[QUOTE=BroadHopper;211122]Who still use them? I do know they cause rot underneath the siding and that they look so cheap. [QUOTE] I beg to differ.I chose a vinyl shake and love how it looks....and doesn't want paint!Not sure where you came up with the rot theory.If anything vinyl has much more air movement through it than wood clapboards.All Azek trim.Zero painting. __________________ SIKSUKR Last edited by SIKSUKR; 09-03-2013 at 07:22 AM.

08-28-2013, 06:16 PM	#7
Slickcraft Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Welch Island and The Taylor Community Posts: 3,296 Thanks: 1,222 Thanked 2,080 Times in 952 Posts	Vinyl is final! BH, you are a bit out of date on this. Vinyl is used on a good share of new homes and top quality material is available. Our prior home in Danville had quality vinyl. 15 years ago we moved up here to a very nice house except for the cedar siding. I am now in the process of my 3rd application of stain. We have been looking for a smaller house off the hillside and immediately reject any without vinyl siding. I have had quite enough siding maintenance. Last edited by Slickcraft; 08-29-2013 at 04:44 AM. Reason: typo

08-28-2013, 06:50 PM	#8
fpartri497 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Concord NH Posts: 681 Thanks: 97 Thanked 48 Times in 39 Posts	ceader siding I have owned my home for 24 yrs. now and every five years I have to power wash and stain the cedar clareboards . I will never buy a house like this again with this siding __________________ dont worry be happy

08-29-2013, 03:10 PM	#16
BroadHopper Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Laconia NH Posts: 5,570 Thanks: 3,204 Thanked 1,101 Times in 793 Posts	Vinyl Sidings. My dad had the cheap thin vinyl sidings that use to cost an arm and a leg back in the 60's. Bird drippings practically melted the sidings and the south side faded pretty fast. After a decade of BS from the mfg. we replace the vinyl sidings with fibrecrete. When we took off the vinyl sidings the old clapboards were rotted and the water channeled onto the sills and rotted them out too. My father was a carpenter and he saw his share of rot under vinyl sidings. The fibrecrete is much more durable and still in use. I notice the vinyl shingles aka certainteed are a lot thicker and more durable than the old vinyl siding. I'm sure there must be better vinyl sidings today, however I was looking at a brand new stick built home that had the flimsy vinyl siding of old. They still make them. It was buckling all over the house and the seams shows. Maybe half a$$ installation? I don't know. __________________ Someday may never be an actual day.

08-28-2013, 11:53 AM	#1
CateP Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Wolfeboro Posts: 868 Thanks: 584 Thanked 540 Times in 210 Posts	Recommendation for Vinyl Siding Installer Hi there. Searched this forum before posting thinking there MUST be posts about this topic, but last one was 2005. Anyway, I am helping out a friend who does not live here year-round, but wants to have her garage vinyl sided to match her house. Can anyone recommend vinyl siding installers in the area? Hoping to get three quotes. Thanks in advance.

08-28-2013, 02:48 PM	#3
ITD Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Moultonboro, NH Posts: 2,924 Thanks: 476 Thanked 691 Times in 387 Posts	Hi Cate, I have two houses, one with cedar claps and the other with vinyl. If I had my choice, I would not buy another house that needs to be painted. We have been in the vinyl sided house since it was new, 15 years now, and the vinyl still looks like new. I've had it pressure washed once, about 2 years ago. The house with the clapboards, looks great for about 2 or 3 years then needs attention. Just make sure you use quality siding, my house has the high grade certainteed. Don't know any contractors up here, but don't let the naysayers dissuade you, I have vinyl and love it and it looks great.

08-28-2013, 03:40 PM	#4
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08-28-2013, 05:23 PM	#6
tis Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 6,697 Thanks: 751 Thanked 1,452 Times in 1,009 Posts	The new vinyl shingles look a LOT better than they used to. I love no maintenance now too.

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08-29-2013, 06:18 AM	#10
sky's Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 273 Thanks: 68 Thanked 76 Times in 52 Posts	BH is somewhat correct it is nearly impossible to waterproof your house with vinyl siding. until you're in the business of repairing houses and building them you would not understand this. getting 3 quotes great but understand each of them , understand their process for going around your windows and doors because that is where most leaks occur with vinyl siding. good luck dont take the lowest estimate go with the person who spends the most time with you explaining their techniques and the materials they use. good luck. wow what a summer

08-29-2013, 06:54 AM	#11
tis Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 6,697 Thanks: 751 Thanked 1,452 Times in 1,009 Posts	You could also try the "cement" sidings. They are pretty maintenance free too. We have that on our house now (clapboards) as well as the new vinyl shingles which look an awful lot like wood now.

08-29-2013, 08:04 AM	#12
sluggo Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 169 Thanks: 13 Thanked 70 Times in 43 Posts	I had Paul Baldwin , building & design side my house a couple of years ago. He did a fantastic job and his pricing was right on the money. Give him a call 603-264-4582

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DickR Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Moultonborough Posts: 749 Thanks: 4 Thanked 259 Times in 171 Posts	To add to Dan's comment in post #13, here is an excellent paper on the subject of having a rainscreen gap behind the siding, an important detail for any new home or residing job. It's from a noted building science expert: http://www.buildingscience.com/docum...ind-the-gap-eh

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09-01-2013, 06:43 AM	#18
Fargo Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Lake Winni Posts: 215 Thanks: 36 Thanked 130 Times in 38 Posts	Installer Jim French Home Improvements 524-8888 vinyl sided a friends house 5 years ago, attention to details made it look fantastic. For other folks, if your paint is failing in a few short years it may be caused by interior house moisture trying to escape. An energy audit might determine why you need to paint a house every few years. ( I don't paint, do energy audits or vinyl siding )

09-01-2013, 01:06 PM	#19
DickR Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Moultonborough Posts: 749 Thanks: 4 Thanked 259 Times in 171 Posts	On the subject of paint failing within a few years, here is a link to an article titled: "Rain-Screen Walls: a Better Way to Install Siding," from Fine Homebuilding 137 , pp. 86-91 March 1, 2001. http://www.finehomebuilding.com/pdf/021137086.pdf Yes, paint failure often relates to moisture accumulation behind the siding. Sometimes it's due to excessive moisture leaking outward from within the house, and sometimes it's just due to the inability of siding to dry out quickly after wind-driven rain gets behind the siding, something that can and does happen to almost any kind of siding.

09-01-2013, 02:54 PM	#20
ITD Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Moultonboro, NH Posts: 2,924 Thanks: 476 Thanked 691 Times in 387 Posts	I have stain, pretty much fades away after a few years then starts to mildew. Newer house, 6 inch fully insulated walls. The vinyl sided house, no repaint, no fade, needed to be powerwashed after 14 years, looks good as new. No competition in my mind, but I understand you wood aficionados out there.... Have at it!!

09-02-2013, 08:18 AM	#21
XJLPS Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 23 Thanks: 0 Thanked 8 Times in 4 Posts	Vinyl siding I believe Cate P was looking for a contractor not a bunch of opinions on what's good and bad about vinyl she's just looking for a couple of quote's ... Nothing like making a mountain out of a mole hill ...

09-02-2013, 04:22 PM	#22
eric richard Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: center barnstead Posts: 42 Thanks: 0 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts	vinyl siding Hi Cate, My name is Eric owner of Eric's & Phil's Home Improvement LLC. I have been installing vinyl siding for 6 years and I would be more then happy to give you a quote on siding the garage. I am fully insured and have good reference.I work all over the lake region.You can contact me at (603)923-3801 or you can email me at Y691234@aol.com. Hope to hear from you soon . Thank you Eric Richard Owner (603)923-3801 cell (603)509-3880 office

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CateP Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Wolfeboro Posts: 868 Thanks: 584 Thanked 540 Times in 210 Posts	Thanks all for the recommendations for installers. Very much appreciated.