Something New From Marine Patrol

kawishiwi · 06-22-2017, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Seaplane Pilot

...No Marine Patrol attack boats swooping in on families, minding their own business on a nice evening cruise.

Hyperbole much?

Descant · 06-22-2017, 10:09 PM

I'll trade NH safety statistics for Florida's.

noreast · 06-23-2017, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Descant

I'll trade NH safety statistics for Florida's.

A nation that sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither. Or something along those lines...

tis · 06-23-2017, 03:36 PM

I understand about freedoms and rules and regulations and all, but still, I cannot see manufacturer's coming up with seats like those. They are just asking for trouble if used while underway IMHO. Could they be really intended for rafting and nothing else?

noreast · 06-23-2017, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by tis

I understand about freedoms and rules and regulations and all, but still, I cannot see manufacturer's coming up with seats like those. They are just asking for trouble if used while underway IMHO. Could they be really intended for rafting and nothing else?

Mostly for water sports, sit and gear up. Great for fishing while not underway as well. Some of the high end pontoons have open sterns, Great for lazing around, but, without a rail, you can't use them while underway so you lose some valuable seating.

tis · 06-23-2017, 06:25 PM

Agree, noreast. But of course the same people that need labels that coffee is hot, would not use these seats properly.

Skip · 06-25-2017, 02:48 PM

Lt. McLain from the NHMP responded to my inquiry regarding this thread. Thanks so much for taking the time to respond LT...I know how busy you officers are, especially on summer weekends like this!

The email is stamped confidential, so I will paraphrase her response:

There is no new law or regulation regarding the issue under discussion. If the rear facing seat(s) are enclosed by railings, gunwales, etc. then these seating arrangements are typically approved by the manufacturer for use underway and are legal.

However, the LT and her personnel have noted an increasing number of vessels equipped with open rear facing seating. The interpretation comes when a determination needs to be made if the manufacturer intended for this seating to be used underway. The LT recommends that if you have questions about the legality of the seating that you question the manufacturer (maybe through your dealer?) as to its proper usage.

And, as always, she encourages any boater to feel free to contact her office with this or any general boating question.

I have always found the Marine Patrol to be very responsive to citizen inquiries, and encourage anyone to take the LT up on her offer should you need a definitive answer to a boating question!

Skip

FlyingScot · 06-25-2017, 05:34 PM

Thanks, Skip. I agree the Marine Patrol are terrific and we should give them the benefit of the doubt.

John E · 06-28-2017, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by tis

I understand about freedoms and rules and regulations and all, but still, I cannot see manufacturer's coming up with seats like those. They are just asking for trouble if used while underway IMHO. Could they be really intended for rafting and nothing else?

Far more dangerous with and IO than an inboard, IMO. Illegal in either case.

Seaplane Pilot · 06-23-2017, 01:50 AM

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Originally Posted by kawishiwi

Hyperbole much?

That's the best response you can come up with?

06-25-2017, 02:48 PM	#7
Skip Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Dover, NH Posts: 1,615 Thanks: 256 Thanked 514 Times in 182 Posts	Response from Marine Patrol Lt. McLain from the NHMP responded to my inquiry regarding this thread. Thanks so much for taking the time to respond LT...I know how busy you officers are, especially on summer weekends like this! The email is stamped confidential, so I will paraphrase her response: There is no new law or regulation regarding the issue under discussion. If the rear facing seat(s) are enclosed by railings, gunwales, etc. then these seating arrangements are typically approved by the manufacturer for use underway and are legal. However, the LT and her personnel have noted an increasing number of vessels equipped with open rear facing seating. The interpretation comes when a determination needs to be made if the manufacturer intended for this seating to be used underway. The LT recommends that if you have questions about the legality of the seating that you question the manufacturer (maybe through your dealer?) as to its proper usage. And, as always, she encourages any boater to feel free to contact her office with this or any general boating question. I have always found the Marine Patrol to be very responsive to citizen inquiries, and encourage anyone to take the LT up on her offer should you need a definitive answer to a boating question! Skip

06-25-2017, 05:34 PM	#8
FlyingScot Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Tuftonboro and Sudbury, MA Posts: 2,459 Thanks: 1,345 Thanked 1,047 Times in 651 Posts	Thanks Thanks, Skip. I agree the Marine Patrol are terrific and we should give them the benefit of the doubt.

06-22-2017, 10:09 PM	#2
Descant Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Merrimack and Welch Island Posts: 4,459 Thanks: 1,376 Thanked 1,654 Times in 1,082 Posts	I'll trade NH safety statistics for Florida's.

06-23-2017, 03:36 PM	#4
tis Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 6,819 Thanks: 759 Thanked 1,471 Times in 1,026 Posts	I understand about freedoms and rules and regulations and all, but still, I cannot see manufacturer's coming up with seats like those. They are just asking for trouble if used while underway IMHO. Could they be really intended for rafting and nothing else?

06-23-2017, 06:25 PM	#6
tis Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 6,819 Thanks: 759 Thanked 1,471 Times in 1,026 Posts	Agree, noreast. But of course the same people that need labels that coffee is hot, would not use these seats properly.