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Old 11-20-2019, 03:47 PM   #1
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Perhaps the lesson is simply to remember that these things can happen to anyone. You can never be so skilled, knowledgeable, or prepared as to completely eliminate the possibility of finding yourself in danger.

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Very well said Shore things! Sometimes an "accident" is just that...an accident.

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Old 11-20-2019, 03:52 PM   #2
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Very well said Shore things! Sometimes an "accident" is just that...an accident.

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That doesn't mean there isn't a root cause to the accident that should be figured out and shared with the public to ensure others avoid a similar incident.

Just saying oh an accident is an accident is arguably just making an excuse.

One could even argue this- the two boaters were friends right? Well my friends who I have known for ever would know the path I would take across the lake because they have seen me do it or we have done it together numerous times. Could that have been a factor? The fact they had similar or identical thought of well lets hug this island coast at this point because they both knew it well and did it multiple times? Well then that would be a factor that put them in the same place as the same time because otherwise they would have completely missed each other right?
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Old 11-20-2019, 04:46 PM   #3
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That doesn't mean there isn't a root cause to the accident that should be figured out and shared with the public to ensure others avoid a similar incident.

Just saying oh an accident is an accident is arguably just making an excuse.

One could even argue this- the two boaters were friends right? Well my friends who I have known for ever would know the path I would take across the lake because they have seen me do it or we have done it together numerous times. Could that have been a factor? The fact they had similar or identical thought of well lets hug this island coast at this point because they both knew it well and did it multiple times? Well then that would be a factor that put them in the same place as the same time because otherwise they would have completely missed each other right?
I'm sure at some point these details will come out. It would be prudent to allow law enforcement to do a complete and thorough "official" investigation which doesn't happen quickly as seen on TV. This would include as many unbiased facts based on the evidence gathered, observation of the site where it occurred and whatever information the surviving witness had to offer as well. There is an awful lot of speculation out there as to what could have happened or conclusions being drawn based on limited factual information that while maybe accurate is taken out of context and at face value.

You can bet if there are any lessons to be learned they will be made public in the aftermath of whatever facts come to light following this report, especially since one fact is undisputed. Both of the victims were seasoned operators very familiar with the area.
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Max, well said, thank you. Fyi, great letter in recent Weirs Times by Tim Moore(page 2) The only thing left out was the fact that from year to year, Hal was so very consistent.
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Max, well said, thank you. Fyi, great letter in recent Weirs Times by Tim Moore(page 2) The only thing left out was the fact that from year to year, Hal was so very consistent.
Do you have a link to this article?
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https://weirs.com

It's in the 11/21/19 issue on the right side of the home page
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That doesn't mean there isn't a root cause to the accident that should be figured out and shared with the public to ensure others avoid a similar incident.
Just saying oh an accident is an accident is arguably just making an excuse.
One could even argue this- the two boaters were friends right? Well my friends who I have known for ever would know the path I would take across the lake because they have seen me do it or we have done it together numerous times. Could that have been a factor? The fact they had similar or identical thought of well lets hug this island coast at this point because they both knew it well and did it multiple times? Well then that would be a factor that put them in the same place as the same time because otherwise they would have completely missed each other right?
Check out what the NHMP says at 1:02 in the WMUR recovery video.

https://www.wmur.com/article/2nd-boa...-lake/30188756
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Hal and his family have been friends and neighbors on East Bear Island for many years. We enjoyed holiday visits to his off-island home where Hal and his family would dress in period clothes, and old Christmas carols would be sung by all, and the best eggnog we've ever had was served. We will miss him. 🐻
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