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Old 03-19-2020, 11:53 AM   #1
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Some might argue the coronavirus is yet another example of natural selection, of nature seeking to cull the herd.

Our society, in the name of being civilized, understandably has for decades put innumerable roadblocks up to prevent the operation of natural selection upon the general population.

Social programs, soup kitchens, health care: all these things act to prevent the unfortunates, the losers, those who made bad choices or just had bad luck from reaping the consequences and dying off.

I sometimes wonder whether it's really a good thing in the long run to mess with mother nature.
In view of the seriousness and uncertainties of this current health crisis, most of us are doing what we can to be positive and to try to alleviate the situation. Many people are barely managing to cope with this. In my opinion, it’s vile to post something as negative as your message.
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Old 03-19-2020, 12:16 PM   #2
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In view of the seriousness and uncertainties of this current health crisis, most of us are doing what we can to be positive and to try to alleviate the situation. Many people are barely managing to cope with this. In my opinion, it’s vile to post something as negative as your message.
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I think the impact this is going to have and our national debt is much more worthy of concerned then the virus itself.
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I think the impact this is going to have and our national debt is much more worthy of concerned then the virus itself.
This administration didn't care about the National debt even before this hit so I doubt they care about it now.
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This administration didn't care about the National debt even before this hit so I doubt they care about it now.
Please....... I and sure you were not complaining when your broker account, 401k and/or any other related retirement account was increasing by 30% because the economy was booming.
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Please....... I and sure you were not complaining when your broker account, 401k and/or any other related retirement account was increasing by 30% because the economy was booming.
You haven't been paying attention because I have been. Unlike many, more money is not my sole desire. I've worked very hard for 50 years and I'm appreciative and content with what I have accomplished and what I have.
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You haven't been paying attention because I have been. Unlike many, more money is not my sole desire. I've worked very hard for 50 years and I'm appreciative and content with what I have accomplished and what I have.
Then you are the only person in the country that complains when their retirement account increases. I never said you were not proud of your accomplishments, As I am.

I took over a family business that was near bankruptcy and 20 years later more than doubled my sales, my fleet and employees not to mention what I help build in NYC and sold it for a nice profit but I am still concerned in my semi retirement that my accounts appreciate
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Then you are the only person in the country that complains when their retirement account increases. I never said you were not proud of your accomplishments, As I am.

I took over a family business that was near bankruptcy and 20 years later more than doubled my sales, my fleet and employees not to mention what I help build in NYC and sold it for a nice profit but I am still concerned in my semi retirement that my accounts appreciate
I was very happy when my IRA was going up but I also expected it to come back down to reality, just not this way.
I've been through quite a few recessions so another one comes as no surprise. The surprise is what has caused it.
I was a small business owner for over 35 years so I know what the struggles are. I started with nothing, I had no family business and no college education. The only way I knew to get through recessions was to roll up my sleeves and work harder. Any successful business owner knows that the 40 hour work week is for employees only.
I'm registered as an Independent so I don't vote party lines. I vote for who I have the most respect for at the time. I really wish I could say I had respect for this President. But my respect is not money driven.
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I was very happy when my IRA was going up but I also expected it to come back down to reality, just not this way.
I've been through quite a few recessions so another one comes as no surprise. The surprise is what has caused it.
I was a small business owner for over 35 years so I know what the struggles are. I started with nothing, I had no family business and no college education. The only way I knew to get through recessions was to roll up my sleeves and work harder. Any successful business owner knows that the 40 hour work week is for employees only.
I'm registered as an Independent so I don't vote party lines. I vote for who I have the most respect for at the time.
You really expected it to go down? Come on. Given the history of the market over the past 50 years that would be a very unsubstantiated point of view. I lived through the same recessions plus had to deal with 911 just 2 miles from my busiest concrete plant. I have seen more than my share of downturns mortgaged my home and business to the hilt to keep my employees going and worked 14 hour days six days a week for 30 years and maintained a CPA tax practice. You are preaching to the choir
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You really expected it to go down? Come on. Given the history of the market over the past 50 years that would be a very unsubstantiated point of view. I lived through the same recessions plus had to deal with 911 just 2 miles from my busiest concrete plant. I have seen more than my share of downturns mortgaged my home and business to the hilt to keep my employees going and worked 14 hour days six days a week for 30 years and maintained a CPA tax practice. You are preaching to the choir
If you've read my past posts on other threads, yes I expected a recession, and no, I wasn't wishing for one. I just didn't expect it would be caused by a Pandemic.
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If you've read my posts, yes I expected a recession, and no, I wasn't wishing for one. I just didn't expect it would be caused by a Pandemic.
If you did then you are psychic or psychotic not sure which
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If you did then you are psychic or psychotic not sure which
I wish I was psychic, maybe psychotic. Although I picked the perfect time to retire, March 1st, so maybe I am psychic.
I forced the tenant renting my property to sign a 10 year lease as I knew the 5 year lease, that he wanted, wouldn't be long enough to get me into the recovery years.
Expansions don't last forever. Recessions are a reset, but the cause of this one was not something anyone saw coming.
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Does Village Kitchen accept plastic yet?

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Does Village Kitchen accept plastic yet?
Nope they don't.

It dawns on me that this is a great time for restaurants to upgrade their technology.

Lakeside has had an app for awhile (not a great one, but still an app), and I am happy to see that Burrito me does online orders now too (as of this week?).

Everyone else seems to be a pick up the phone and call type model, and with the cheapness of the engine options to choose from I am not sure why you would not want an online option at this point as it's so easy to set up and so inexpensive.

You don't even need to take credit cards if you don't want.....
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With over 1/3 of the confirmed US cases in NY, if I were you, I would head to NH before they quarantine the whole state.
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With over 1/3 of the confirmed US cases in NY, if I were you, I would head to NH before they quarantine the whole state.
Would love to but it’s tax season. Remember the stimulus package does not extend time to file, although you have always been allowed to file an automatic 6 month extension, personal returns are still due 4/15 however if you owe money the payment is due no later than 7/15 and no penalties or interest will be assessed.


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Would love to but it’s tax season. Remember the stimulus package does not extend time to file, although you have always been allowed to file an automatic 6 month extension, personal returns are still due 4/15 however if you owe money the payment is due no later than 7/15 and no penalties or interest will be assessed.


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I know we have our differences of opinion but stay safe.
I had an appointment with my accountant today and he's a personal friend of the family but he had to cancel because someone in his building was confirmed with the virus.
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I was there 2 wks ago, and they're still only taking cash or checks- not a problem if you stop at a MAC machine first. happy eating!
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Forget a recession. If this continues beyond a few weeks we will be in a depression.
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This administration didn't care about the National debt even before this hit so I doubt they care about it now.
And your hero Barack O cared? If I recall, HIS ADMINISTRATION increased the debt by more than all the previous presidents COMBINED. Get off your high horse cowboy...
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And your hero Barack O cared? If I recall, HIS ADMINISTRATION increased the debt by more than all the previous presidents COMBINED. Get off your high horse cowboy...
He's certainly not my hero but he had my respect because of his morality. I was very proud of Trump's press conference the other day when he praised everyone, Republicans and Democrats, for coming together and pushing things through without trashing or name calling anyone. But that was short lived.
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And your hero Barack O cared? If I recall, HIS ADMINISTRATION increased the debt by more than all the previous presidents COMBINED. Get off your high horse cowboy...
Reasonable people can disagree on spending, taxes, and deficits--but consistency is important. Obama's deficits were driven by stimulus policies to get us out of the 2008-09 crisis.

Trump is now about to do the same (on top of his previous policies designed to feed the stock market as Joey noted).

I noted earlier that I agreed with Trump's stimulus comments of the past couple of days (just as I agreed with Obama's 10 years ago). I wonder if the Trump supporters who railed against the Obama stimulus will now rail against the Trump stimulus? Or applaud the Trump stimulus and opine that they were wrong about Obama? Or come up with some sort of lame evasion for their inconsistency?
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In view of the seriousness and uncertainties of this current health crisis, most of us are doing what we can to be positive and to try to alleviate the situation. Many people are barely managing to cope with this. In my opinion, it’s vile to post something as negative as your message.
That's your opinion; you've read mine.

What, we should only think and post good thoughts?

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That's your opinion; you've read mine.

What, we should only think and post good thoughts?

Hello, reality.
This is undoubtedly a pointless exercise, but I would suggest that you continue to think whatever you like, but it might be helpful if you refrain from posting negative comments...especially when so many people right now are trying to cope. I shudder to think that you might ever be in a position to decide who gets treatment, who is denied, etc. based upon your opinions and biases...truly frightening!
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Agreed - As is all the quibbling going on here.
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