Laconia State School

John Mercier · 12-07-2022, 05:38 PM

Since no one else wants to deal with it...

bruinsfan · 12-07-2022, 10:42 PM

Per Union Leader:

CONCORD — The state Executive Council tabled Wednesday the proposed $21.5 million purchase of the former Laconia State School property after questions arose over the Manchester buyer’s limited commercial development experience.

WinnisquamZ · 12-07-2022, 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bruinsfan

Per Union Leader:

CONCORD — The state Executive Council tabled Wednesday the proposed $21.5 million purchase of the former Laconia State School property after questions arose over the Manchester buyer’s limited commercial development experience.

One thing that must be noted is Sununu anger towards the city of Laconia for identifying the developers lack of experience and legal issues. I find this disturbing.

Sent from my iPhone using Winnipesaukee Forum mobile app

Descant · 12-07-2022, 11:47 PM

The NH Department of Administrative Services has presumably negotiated the P & S and has done some due diligence before making a recommendation to the EC. Any word on that part of the process?

John Mercier · 12-08-2022, 01:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WinnisquamZ

One thing that must be noted is Sununu anger towards the city of Laconia for identifying the developers lack of experience and legal issues. I find this disturbing.

Sent from my iPhone using Winnipesaukee Forum mobile app

Lessons learned from the past.

TiltonBB · 12-15-2022, 10:30 PM

Hosmer and City Manager Kirk Beattie have maintained that no city officials had access to the information necessary to vet Alexander.

https://www.laconiadailysun.com/news...82b01f81d.html

WinnisquamZ · 12-15-2022, 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TiltonBB

Hosmer and City Manager Kirk Beattie have maintained that no city officials had access to the information necessary to vet Alexander.

https://www.laconiadailysun.com/news...82b01f81d.html

Assuming they are correct not sure it would have made a difference. The sale is controlled by the state. Hosmer and Beattie should be directing their displeasure to Kennedy. The area representative on the executive council. He came out again tonight in support of the sale. Voting against the city’s wishes

Sent from my iPhone using Winnipesaukee Forum mobile app

John Mercier · 12-16-2022, 08:48 AM

I don't think there are any other real options on the table based on what the City keeps demanding.

The State should be looking out for all residents of the State... not just the city, like the city council is supposed to, and the EC would be looking out for a broad area of constituents.

She is being backed by some big names that don't want to be in the spotlight due to other run-ins with a City Council that has a constituency that is rather chaotic.

TiltonBB · 12-22-2022, 07:37 AM

On Wednesday, a 3-2 Executive Council vote approved a purchase and sale agreement with Legacy at Laconia, LLC.

https://www.laconiadailysun.com/news...830f48889.html

codeman671 · 12-23-2022, 08:52 AM

“On a 3-2 vote, the Executive Council on Wednesday approved the $21.5 million sale of the former Laconia State School property to private developers despite financial questions about some of the project’s key members. The development will include 340 single-family, duplex or triplex homes, half of which will be priced as “entry-level,” 108 condominiums, 500 apartments — 120 designated as “workforce housing” — and 350 townhouses. The site also will have 360 units of independent living units for seniors, along with 230 assisted-care units, which McCoy will spearhead, according to a spokesman for the developers. Along with housing, the project includes a 1,000-seat convention center and a 250-room hotel, as well as urgent care, child care and pharmacy facilities on site. Half of the property will remain undeveloped and taxed under the state’s current-use law, which values property in its natural state rather than at its potential developable value, officials said.”

Biggd · 12-23-2022, 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by codeman671

“On a 3-2 vote, the Executive Council on Wednesday approved the $21.5 million sale of the former Laconia State School property to private developers despite financial questions about some of the project’s key members. The development will include 340 single-family, duplex or triplex homes, half of which will be priced as “entry-level,” 108 condominiums, 500 apartments — 120 designated as “workforce housing” — and 350 townhouses. The site also will have 360 units of independent living units for seniors, along with 230 assisted-care units, which McCoy will spearhead, according to a spokesman for the developers. Along with housing, the project includes a 1,000-seat convention center and a 250-room hotel, as well as urgent care, child care and pharmacy facilities on site. Half of the property will remain undeveloped and taxed under the state’s current-use law, which values property in its natural state rather than at its potential developable value, officials said.”

I haven't seen this much development in the Lakes Region since the 80's and we know what happened then!

LongBay · 12-23-2022, 11:40 AM

They will be lucky if half those number of units go in. Same old...ask for 1,000 so you will at least get 500. Everyone thinks they won.

John Mercier · 12-23-2022, 12:57 PM

It would be a loss to the developer, not the State, if the density is lower than proposed.

More than likely... they will seek higher density with more units to maximize profits.

12-22-2022, 07:37 AM	#9
TiltonBB Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Gilford, NH and Florida Posts: 3,021 Thanks: 703 Thanked 2,203 Times in 937 Posts	Sold! On Wednesday, a 3-2 Executive Council vote approved a purchase and sale agreement with Legacy at Laconia, LLC. https://www.laconiadailysun.com/news...830f48889.html

12-07-2022, 05:38 PM	#1
John Mercier Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2021 Posts: 3,451 Thanks: 3 Thanked 608 Times in 502 Posts	Since no one else wants to deal with it...

12-07-2022, 10:42 PM	#2
bruinsfan Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: NH Posts: 147 Thanks: 88 Thanked 73 Times in 34 Posts	Per Union Leader: CONCORD — The state Executive Council tabled Wednesday the proposed $21.5 million purchase of the former Laconia State School property after questions arose over the Manchester buyer’s limited commercial development experience.

12-07-2022, 11:47 PM	#4
Descant Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Merrimack and Welch Island Posts: 4,392 Thanks: 1,358 Thanked 1,631 Times in 1,063 Posts	The NH Department of Administrative Services has presumably negotiated the P & S and has done some due diligence before making a recommendation to the EC. Any word on that part of the process?

12-15-2022, 10:30 PM	#6
TiltonBB Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Gilford, NH and Florida Posts: 3,021 Thanks: 703 Thanked 2,203 Times in 937 Posts	Hosmer and City Manager Kirk Beattie have maintained that no city officials had access to the information necessary to vet Alexander. https://www.laconiadailysun.com/news...82b01f81d.html

12-16-2022, 08:48 AM	#8
John Mercier Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2021 Posts: 3,451 Thanks: 3 Thanked 608 Times in 502 Posts	I don't think there are any other real options on the table based on what the City keeps demanding. The State should be looking out for all residents of the State... not just the city, like the city council is supposed to, and the EC would be looking out for a broad area of constituents. She is being backed by some big names that don't want to be in the spotlight due to other run-ins with a City Council that has a constituency that is rather chaotic.

12-23-2022, 08:52 AM	#10
codeman671 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,505 Thanks: 221 Thanked 817 Times in 490 Posts	“On a 3-2 vote, the Executive Council on Wednesday approved the $21.5 million sale of the former Laconia State School property to private developers despite financial questions about some of the project’s key members. The development will include 340 single-family, duplex or triplex homes, half of which will be priced as “entry-level,” 108 condominiums, 500 apartments — 120 designated as “workforce housing” — and 350 townhouses. The site also will have 360 units of independent living units for seniors, along with 230 assisted-care units, which McCoy will spearhead, according to a spokesman for the developers. Along with housing, the project includes a 1,000-seat convention center and a 250-room hotel, as well as urgent care, child care and pharmacy facilities on site. Half of the property will remain undeveloped and taxed under the state’s current-use law, which values property in its natural state rather than at its potential developable value, officials said.”

12-23-2022, 11:40 AM	#12
LongBay Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 151 Thanks: 48 Thanked 61 Times in 35 Posts	They will be lucky if half those number of units go in. Same old...ask for 1,000 so you will at least get 500. Everyone thinks they won.

12-23-2022, 12:57 PM	#13
John Mercier Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2021 Posts: 3,451 Thanks: 3 Thanked 608 Times in 502 Posts	It would be a loss to the developer, not the State, if the density is lower than proposed. More than likely... they will seek higher density with more units to maximize profits.