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Originally Posted by BroadHopper

I had a scout for years until I could no longer pass inspection due to rust. I still say it's the best SUV made! A close second was the Bronco II until that sadly rotted.

I did a lot of off-roading and the new SUVs cannot hold a candle to the old! The only pickup that was capable of was my old Power Wagon!

I took my daily driver, an allroad on the Bronco course at Gunstock after hours. I had to chuckle. No big deal.

Why do they call them SUVs? Does anyone know what a true SUV is?

I checked with my insurance provider and he suggested either the Outback, allroad, or the V60 CC. They are classified as wagons. The premiums are far less than SUVs and just as capable. Handles a lot better to! Ever tried doing an SUV at speed on a SCCA course?

I'd love an old Scout or even CJ, but I'd need a 3rd garage!

As I mentioned in the Offroadeo thread, though, you may have done some of the trails at Gunstock, but you absolutely didn't do the advanced ones. I also owned an Allroad, and unless you lifted yours 6", added 35" tires and sway bar disconnects, replaced the independent suspension with solid axles, and had a spotter there's no way you could make it through the rock gardens or steep turnovers. (Audi's Quattro is pretty good, though—other than power and strength, it would be interesting to see how it compares to locking differentials. Still, there's simply not enough clearance, especially with the independent suspension, to get over anything more than, what, 6.5"?)

Also, the "old is better" only applies to machines that have been modernized for comfort or in terms of simplicity vs. complexity.

For example, the stock and built JL Wrangler is as/more capable than any previous SUV when taking into account its computerized systems and drive controls. When comparing older "built" SUVs, there's a simplicity there that can enhance reliability and "feel" for the road, for sure.

What I love about the Bronco is that it'll do 99.9% of what a Wrangler will do and a thousand percent more than what I'll ever do...while driving really well with the top and doors off.

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