A Challenge for a Solution to Lake Speeds

Bear Islander · 02-05-2008, 09:02 PM

I have been married for 31 plus years. Obviously I can compromise!

Compromise is how you get things done in most cases. I have said from the beginning I want a horsepower limit not a speed limit. My second choice would have been a 60/30 speed limit. But nobody went with that.

So I had to compromise and support 45/25.

Dick · 02-05-2008, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Bear Islander

I have said from the beginning I want a horsepower limit not a speed limit.

It is very common that big bass boats with 250 hp outboards will put in a lake and just use their bow mounted electric motor to go fishing. This is especially true for smaller lakes. Horsepower limits is a horrible idea! It would deny many bass boats from access.

Who would decide what the horsepower limit would be and on what lakes or rivers? My bass boat is 22 ft. and weighs in at 4,000 lbs. fully loaded with livewell water, 50 gal. of fuel, gear, 2 adults, and 4 deep cycle batteries. It takes 250 hp just to lift all this and get it up on plane.

Horsepower rating on a watercraft is mainly based upon size (length & width) and weight. Therefore, if you had your way by limiting horsepower, you might as well be banning all large boats. Is that really what you want to do?

codeman671 · 02-05-2008, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Dick

It is very common that big bass boats with 250 hp outboards will put in a lake and just use their bow mounted electric motor to go fishing. This is especially true for smaller lakes. Horsepower limits is a horrible idea! It would deny many bass boats from access.

Who would decide what the horsepower limit would be and on what lakes or rivers? My bass boat is 22 ft. and weighs in at 4,000 lbs. fully loaded with livewell water, 50 gal. of fuel, gear, 2 adults, and 4 deep cycle batteries. It takes 250 hp just to lift all this and get it up on plane.

Horsepower rating on a watercraft is mainly based upon size (length & width) and weight. Therefore, if you had your way by limiting horsepower, you might as well be banning all large boats. Is that really what you want to do?

FYI- Bear Islander's proposal was to allow motors under 300hp only, starting with model year 2008 I believe so this would not be an issue for you. You are on the right track as far as where the idea was headed...

fatlazyless · 02-05-2008, 10:09 PM

Agreed, a horse power limit is not really needed as the 45-25 speed limit, with its recent very strong, House of Representatives, vote confirmation of 236-111, lets the boat-buyer choose for themself to power up, or to power down.

Rattlesnake Guy · 02-05-2008, 10:56 PM

Skip,
If you don't need a drivers license to drive a boat do you think it would be reasonable to leave it home and only present a boating certificate? Would it do any good? Can't wait for the kids to get stopped going 50 on a PWC which will drive our insurance rates up.

Will have to learn to have fun in a perpendicular to land kind of way. Much safer?

fatlazyless · 02-06-2008, 09:58 AM

If HB-847 becomes law and you really miss the bad old days when you could legally go 107mph in a boat on Lake Winnipesaukee, you'll still have the option of doing that in a snowmobile, a car, motorcycle, pickup truck, suv, minivan, or motorized skateboard, as long as it cannot float and be considered a vessel. Ditto that for ice sailboats. While NH has a land speed limit of 45mph for snowmobiles, unless otherwise posted, it has no sno-mo speed limit on Lake Winnipesaukee, because it is not land, and HB-847 does not apply to sno-mos.

Let's see here, 107mph subtract 62=45mph. Hey, just how slow is that?

chipj29 · 02-06-2008, 12:23 PM

I am not sure you are correct about snowmobiles Les. On land there is a 45 mph limit for sleds, and as far as I know, that applies to most lakes/ice as well. The only lake that has a different speed limit that is specified is Turtletown Pond in Concord, which is 55.

I could be wrong, but that is how I interpret it.

Woodsy · 02-06-2008, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by chipj29

I am not sure you are correct about snowmobiles Les. On land there is a 45 mph limit for sleds, and as far as I know, that applies to most lakes/ice as well. The only lake that has a different speed limit that is specified is Turtletown Pond in Concord, which is 55.

I could be wrong, but that is how I interpret it.

Chip...

FLL is correct... there is no snowmobile speed limit on most NH lakes... Turtletown Pond and Back Lake are two examples...

Woodsy

chipj29 · 02-06-2008, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Woodsy

Chip...

FLL is correct... there is no snowmobile speed limit on most NH lakes... Turtletown Pond and Back Lake are two examples...

Woodsy

Interesting...I had completely misinterpreted that.

Just think, I was going slow for no reason!

02-05-2008, 10:09 PM	#4
fatlazyless Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 8,909 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 305 Thanked 1,050 Times in 765 Posts	...mo power! Agreed, a horse power limit is not really needed as the 45-25 speed limit, with its recent very strong, House of Representatives, vote confirmation of 236-111, lets the boat-buyer choose for themself to power up, or to power down. __________________ .... Banned for life from local thrift store!

02-06-2008, 09:58 AM	#6
fatlazyless Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 8,909 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 305 Thanked 1,050 Times in 765 Posts	...the bad old days If HB-847 becomes law and you really miss the bad old days when you could legally go 107mph in a boat on Lake Winnipesaukee, you'll still have the option of doing that in a snowmobile, a car, motorcycle, pickup truck, suv, minivan, or motorized skateboard, as long as it cannot float and be considered a vessel. Ditto that for ice sailboats. While NH has a land speed limit of 45mph for snowmobiles, unless otherwise posted, it has no sno-mo speed limit on Lake Winnipesaukee, because it is not land, and HB-847 does not apply to sno-mos. Let's see here, 107mph subtract 62=45mph. Hey, just how slow is that? __________________ .... Banned for life from local thrift store!

02-05-2008, 09:02 PM	#1
Bear Islander Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Bear Island Posts: 1,764 Thanks: 32 Thanked 441 Times in 207 Posts	I have been married for 31 plus years. Obviously I can compromise! Compromise is how you get things done in most cases. I have said from the beginning I want a horsepower limit not a speed limit. My second choice would have been a 60/30 speed limit. But nobody went with that. So I had to compromise and support 45/25.

02-05-2008, 10:56 PM	#5
Rattlesnake Guy Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 1,254 Thanks: 423 Thanked 366 Times in 175 Posts	Skip, If you don't need a drivers license to drive a boat do you think it would be reasonable to leave it home and only present a boating certificate? Would it do any good? Can't wait for the kids to get stopped going 50 on a PWC which will drive our insurance rates up. Will have to learn to have fun in a perpendicular to land kind of way. Much safer?

02-06-2008, 12:23 PM	#7
chipj29 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Bow Posts: 1,874 Thanks: 521 Thanked 308 Times in 162 Posts	I am not sure you are correct about snowmobiles Les. On land there is a 45 mph limit for sleds, and as far as I know, that applies to most lakes/ice as well. The only lake that has a different speed limit that is specified is Turtletown Pond in Concord, which is 55. I could be wrong, but that is how I interpret it.