Are we all still alive???

Lin · 07-24-2008, 06:34 PM

Watching WMUR and cannot believe the destruction. Sad to hear there is a death associated with this weather. Unbelievable storm damage.

Rattlesnake Guy · 07-24-2008, 06:45 PM

With all the rain we have been getting and the chance you may have skipped a weekend or two at the lake. Don't forget to make sure your boat has enough line for the lake to rise. It is getting higher every day. We are also growing concerned about our PWC on the lift and have tied it in place in case the winds pick up from the North. RG reported and video taped the waves going 6 inches over the top of our dock last Friday. Now the water is even higher. Be safe.

Lakesrider · 07-24-2008, 07:54 PM

WMUR was dissed by the Epsom Fire Chief as far as I am concerned. I was watching channel 9 but I switched to the channel 13 news to see if anything else was happening in Maine. Then they showed the news woman from Maine standing with the Epsom chief in the middle of the destruction while the channel 9 people were still saying they weren't allowed in. So, did the Channel 13 people sneek in from over the border or what? How did they get in when our own news people couldn't? I'd be ticked if I were them (Channel 9 I mean)......

CanisLupusArctos · 07-24-2008, 08:50 PM

For the suspected tornado storm of Alton-Wolfeborough, Peak gust at Black Cat was 32 mph from the SE just before it crossed the lake well to the SE. That was the peak gust for the day until later when it shifted to SW and gusted to 44 mph, matching the peak for the month.

Most of the big activity came from a train of storms that moved rapidly on a South to North course from the North Shore of MA to the Conway area. The whole train gradually shifted east, prompting the tornado watch in Maine. The focus of today's freakish activity was from southern NH to the far southeast end of the lake, and then it shifted to the Maine border.

My concern now is that the trees have now had a lot of frequent stress this summer and have not had time to recover. I have noticed a trend in the last three big storm threats:

June 22, 75 mph from the NW- twigs down.

July 2, 60 mph from the S- small branches down.

July 18, 44 mph from the N- large branches down.

It's probably similar to when your muscles are stressed from lifting weights. You get sore because there are little tears in each fiber. You wait to recover them, and they come back stronger. If you don't wait, you injure yourself by making the tears bigger. I would imagine the trees, being living tissue like your muscles, probably function the same way when stressed. And this summer, they're being forced into exercise before they've recovered from the last workout.

I think as this summer goes on, and the severe weather trend continues, we will see trees and branches coming down at lower wind speeds. Also, with the ground now saturated, uprooting is going to become a bigger issue. If what's holding the roots in place turns to mush, it doesn't take much wind to push the whole tree right over. Especially in summertime when leaves act as sails and pine trees have 100% of their needles.

Puck · 07-25-2008, 07:05 AM

Aerial photos from WMUR.

http://www.wmur.com/slideshow/weathe...48/detail.html

NavGirl316 · 07-25-2008, 09:22 AM

I am planning to drive up to the lake today from Dover....does anyone know if route 16N from Dover to Rochester, and route 11W from Rochester up through Alton and Gilford are open? Thanks.

Emeljee99 · 07-25-2008, 10:10 AM

My brother is driving up to Alton from Pembroke to check on our cabin...I heard that most damage was along Rt 11 and 28... Anyone know about traffic conditions (as he'll take 28 all the way to the Circle from Pembroke).

hilltopper · 07-25-2008, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Emeljee99

My brother is driving up to Alton from Pembroke to check on our cabin...I heard that most damage was along Rt 11 and 28... Anyone know about traffic conditions (as he'll take 28 all the way to the Circle from Pembroke).

For what it's worth, here's the DOT road closures as of 10:17 AM according to a WMUR web page.

http://www.wmur.com/news/16977822/detail.html

Emeljee99 · 07-25-2008, 11:38 AM

will check into that! Hope everyone is doing ok

07-24-2008, 06:34 PM	#1
Lin Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Massachusetts & Moultonborough Posts: 673 Thanks: 41 Thanked 15 Times in 11 Posts	Watching WMUR and cannot believe the destruction. Sad to hear there is a death associated with this weather. Unbelievable storm damage. __________________ Lin

07-24-2008, 06:45 PM	#2
Rattlesnake Guy Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 1,254 Thanks: 423 Thanked 366 Times in 175 Posts	Don't forget you Arc. With all the rain we have been getting and the chance you may have skipped a weekend or two at the lake. Don't forget to make sure your boat has enough line for the lake to rise. It is getting higher every day. We are also growing concerned about our PWC on the lift and have tied it in place in case the winds pick up from the North. RG reported and video taped the waves going 6 inches over the top of our dock last Friday. Now the water is even higher. Be safe.

07-25-2008, 07:05 AM	#5
Puck Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Central NH Posts: 97 Thanks: 0 Thanked 78 Times in 20 Posts	yikes... Aerial photos from WMUR. http://www.wmur.com/slideshow/weathe...48/detail.html

07-25-2008, 09:22 AM	#6
NavGirl316 Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 32 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Route 16 and Route 11? I am planning to drive up to the lake today from Dover....does anyone know if route 16N from Dover to Rochester, and route 11W from Rochester up through Alton and Gilford are open? Thanks.

07-25-2008, 10:10 AM	#7
Emeljee99 Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Route 28?? My brother is driving up to Alton from Pembroke to check on our cabin...I heard that most damage was along Rt 11 and 28... Anyone know about traffic conditions (as he'll take 28 all the way to the Circle from Pembroke).

07-24-2008, 07:54 PM	#3
Lakesrider Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 2,129 Thanks: 380 Thanked 1,016 Times in 345 Posts	WMUR was dissed by the Epsom Fire Chief as far as I am concerned. I was watching channel 9 but I switched to the channel 13 news to see if anything else was happening in Maine. Then they showed the news woman from Maine standing with the Epsom chief in the middle of the destruction while the channel 9 people were still saying they weren't allowed in. So, did the Channel 13 people sneek in from over the border or what? How did they get in when our own news people couldn't? I'd be ticked if I were them (Channel 9 I mean)......

07-24-2008, 08:50 PM	#4
CanisLupusArctos Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Center Harbor Posts: 1,049 Thanks: 15 Thanked 472 Times in 107 Posts	For the suspected tornado storm of Alton-Wolfeborough, Peak gust at Black Cat was 32 mph from the SE just before it crossed the lake well to the SE. That was the peak gust for the day until later when it shifted to SW and gusted to 44 mph, matching the peak for the month. Most of the big activity came from a train of storms that moved rapidly on a South to North course from the North Shore of MA to the Conway area. The whole train gradually shifted east, prompting the tornado watch in Maine. The focus of today's freakish activity was from southern NH to the far southeast end of the lake, and then it shifted to the Maine border. My concern now is that the trees have now had a lot of frequent stress this summer and have not had time to recover. I have noticed a trend in the last three big storm threats: June 22, 75 mph from the NW- twigs down. July 2, 60 mph from the S- small branches down. July 18, 44 mph from the N- large branches down. It's probably similar to when your muscles are stressed from lifting weights. You get sore because there are little tears in each fiber. You wait to recover them, and they come back stronger. If you don't wait, you injure yourself by making the tears bigger. I would imagine the trees, being living tissue like your muscles, probably function the same way when stressed. And this summer, they're being forced into exercise before they've recovered from the last workout. I think as this summer goes on, and the severe weather trend continues, we will see trees and branches coming down at lower wind speeds. Also, with the ground now saturated, uprooting is going to become a bigger issue. If what's holding the roots in place turns to mush, it doesn't take much wind to push the whole tree right over. Especially in summertime when leaves act as sails and pine trees have 100% of their needles.

07-25-2008, 11:38 AM	#9
Emeljee99 Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	thanks will check into that! Hope everyone is doing ok