Illegal kayaking...say it ain't so!

[rander7823]

Originally Posted by Seaplane Pilot

Now if we could only convince Fish & Game to stock the lake with Great White Sharks...maybe we could "Thin the Kayak Herd", making the lake much safer for us "Cowboys".

Great Whites eat powerboats also........

[Seaplane Pilot]

Originally Posted by rander7823

Great Whites eat powerboats also........

Yeah, but only if you're trying to catch them. Since we "cowboy" powerboaters travel at breakneck, lightning speeds at all hours of the day and night, there's no way a great white will ever catch us. Pity the poor kayaker that can't paddle fast enough.

[codeman671]

Originally Posted by Seaplane Pilot

Pity the poor kayaker that can't paddle fast enough.

I am sure there is a kayaker or two we know that could out-paddle a shark!

[Kamper]

Originally Posted by codeman671

I am sure there is a kayaker or two we know that could out-paddle a shark!

Never mind the shark, always go kayaking with someone slower than you?

[SIKSUKR]

Originally Posted by codeman671

I am sure there is a kayaker or two we know that could out-paddle a shark!

We know one for sure that would claim to be able to outsmart,outdebate, outcondition,and certainly not the least of all,out whine that darn shark!

[Evenstar]

The amount of kayak bashing on this forum continues to amaze me. This is supposed to be a place for all boaters - yet the powerboat owners seem to think that there’s nothing wrong with constantly putting down paddlers here. No wonder that I’m only one of the few paddlers who is brave enough to post here. And I get jumped on every time that I stand up for paddlers. And please don’t try to tell me that this is just a joke – because I’m not laughing at your insults. This is nothing more than prejudice - and it is wrong.

This thread was started by making an accusation that is based solely on a poor quality photo and on the opinion of the photographer that the kayaker’s action was “senseless encroachment of an endangered species.” First of all, we don’t know why the kayaker was there, so there's no proof that it was "senseless". For all we know, he may have been there to help the loon. What ever happened to “innocent until proven guilty?” Secondly, loons are not an endangered species (http://www.wildlife.state.nh.us/Wild...gered_list.htm).

And, before you guys that are suggesting that we should ban anything that posses a threat to loons, you really should understand where the main threats come from – because you’re actually advocating banning yourselves.

From The Loon Conservation Committee http://www.loon.org/research.html#causes

“Results of our mortality studies have shown that lead sinkers and jigs are the primary cause of death of adult loons, while boat and personal watercraft collisions account for more chick deaths than any other cause.”

“Loss of breeding habitat as a result of shoreline development is one of the main causes of the reduction in loon numbers throughout New Hampshire.”

[WeirsBeachBoater]

"This is nothing more than prejudice - and it is wrong" Kind of like painting all powerboaters as evil, loon killing, paddler hating monsters?

Listen to your own advice.

[SAMIAM]

Heh,heh,heh.......After all the heat that GFB's have taken over the years,now Evenstar is all indignant because one of his Kayakin' buddies was BUSTED.....and don't give me that "poor quality photo" excuse.....there was an eyewitness to the crime.I've never seen a GFBer torment and distress a poor nesting loon mom like that .Probably the eggs never developed because of that thoughtless act. Kayaks and canoes should fitted with a warning bell to warn wildlife of their presence.How many more loons must suffer?

[Islander]

Evenstar

Let them have their fun! They are still smarting from their big loss. For a time they will enjoy trashing kayaks, nitpicking supporters posts and turning every thread into a speed limit debate.

So they will search the internet for funny or embarrassing pictures and stories about kayaks, canoes and so on. Let us show them we are gracious winners and let them enjoy their jokes.

It's only fair. Remember two years ago when we lost..... actually.... on second thought.... we took it like adults.

[Cal]

Originally Posted by Islander

Remember two years ago when we lost..... actually.... on second thought.... we took it like adults.

I beg to differ but if you took it like an adult , why did the whining continue till you BS'd the politicians into passing it

[Kamper]

Let it go gentle folks. There are enough hijacked threads moved into "Speed-limits" already. Stop the baiting - stop the biting!

[Evenstar]

Originally Posted by WeirsBeachBoater

Kind of like painting all powerboaters as evil, loon killing, paddler hating monsters? Listen to your own advice.

Now you're actually accusing me of stating things that I've never even posted! Please get you facts straight before you make accusations against me. Show me where I've ever made negative comments about ALL powerboaters. I have made it very clear that I have nothing against powerboats, and I have never even suggested banning any type of powerboat from the lake. It's the attitude and the ignorance of SOME powerboat operators that I have trouble with.

Originally Posted by SAMIAM

After all the heat that GFB's have taken over the years,now Evenstar is all indignant because one of his Kayakin' buddies was BUSTED.....and don't give me that "poor quality photo" excuse.....there was an eyewitness to the crime.

1.) The photo is poor quallity.
2.) There's no evidence that the kayaker was not attempting to help the loon. Someone's opinion alone, about what they think that they saw, isn't evidence that a "crime" took place. Did the eyewitness or anyone else ever question the paddler?
3.) I'm a she. And I don't even know the person in the photo - so he is hardly one of my "Kayakin' buddies." All my kayaking buddies paddle sea kayaks.
4.) Since this event did not occur on winni, using the rules of the anti-speed-limit-members, it is irrelevant to this forum.

Originally Posted by Islander

Evenstar, Let them have their fun! They are still smarting from their big loss. For a time they will enjoy trashing kayaks, nitpicking supporters posts and turning every thread into a speed limit debate.

I was totally ignoring this thread - until posts started being directed at me personally - that's crossing the line in my book.

It's only fair. Remember two years ago when we lost..... actually.... on second thought.... we took it like adults.

Yes we did.

[SAMIAM]

Kayakers....GUILTY as charged.......Think about this fact! GFB's prowl the broads and the rafting hangouts.....while the evil kayakers invade all of the quiet little places where wildlife tries to hide.They disturb nesting birds,turtles beaver colonies,spawning fish....even frogs and tadpoles get bumped out of their nests as the kayakers power through the shallows.No little bay or cove is safe from them.....they pride themselves on being eco-friendly but the opposite is true....they invade and disturb the very creatures that they so pride themselves on preserving.

[Seaplane Pilot]

Similar to the handgun buyback programs often found in large cities, I think we should start a "Kayak Buyback Program" in order to get these rogue, unsafe kayakers off our precious waters. Save the loons, save the children, protect the kayakers from themselves...Let the cowboys ride the free range! (and get rid of these cry-babys)

$1.00 for every kayak turned in. I've already started my collection and will drill holes in them and sell them for garden planters.

[tis]

Seaplane Pilot. I know I shouldn't but that is just too funny!
I should add, I like GFBL boats but I also like kayaks.

[Sman]

trade the yak in for some binoculars...

the second post mentions something is wrong with this pic, I agree, not sure what it is but it just doesn't look right, a leg on top of the kayak, the person is paddling real close to a nest, a nest in the middle of the water, some sort of a line in the pic running at an angle?

[parrothead]

Why raise to the bait?

[B R]

Originally Posted by Sman

trade the yak in for some binoculars...

the second post mentions something is wrong with this pic, I agree, not sure what it is but it just doesn't look right, a leg on top of the kayak, the person is paddling real close to a nest, a nest in the middle of the water, some sort of a line in the pic running at an angle?

all of this is easily explained:

a leg on top of the kayak:

i've seen this in the x games before. some kayakers get their kicks out of doing these insane tricks all in the name of fun. it's called cowboy kayaking. they're trying to get this sick sport into the olympics, but no insurance company will underwrite the event.

the person is paddling real close to a nest/a nest in the middle of the water/line running at an angle:

appears to be a deviation from the above sport. i've heard they race as close as they can to the tormented loon in an attempt to get the loons to scream (squack, call out...). once they succeed, they lasso the loon and nest with fishing line (that's why it's barely visible) and drag them out to the middle of the lake and then watch and laugh as the loon struggles back to shore. points are awarded by the length of the loon scream and the number of loon chicks that fall into the water.

all of this on the name of fun. i'm telling ya, it's just sick sick sick.....there ought to be a law.......

[brk-lnt]

Originally Posted by B R

all of this is easily explained:

Thank you for clearing that up, your description is much different than what I had previously heard about this...

My understanding was that most kayakers prefer to eat a steady diet of baby seal. See, they feel that the baby seal's spirit will become embedded within their own spirit, making them more at one with the water.

However, due to the popularity of kayaking, many of these vile "sportsmen" are now infesting other waters and coming further inland. They bring their sea kayaks and flamboyantly colored paddles to lakes where they are clearly out of place. After coming to these inland waters they soon realize that there is no baby seal population, and so then they have to refer to hunting some other water creature to enhance their kayaking spirit. In this case, many loons have become the unfortunate target of these people, and the picture above clearly shows this "sport" as they call it happening right in front of the photographers eyes.

In case you are wondering, I know this from a conversation I overhead when I accidentally walked into a "Kayakers bar". The Subaru wagons out front, yogurt menu, and granola scattered on the floor should have given the joint away, but I was weary and simply wanted a bite to eat. Once I realized where I was, I ate my Muselix and quietly left without calling attention to myself, but that was not before I heard many of the secrets of this cult discussed out in the open, in what they thought was a safe environment...

[SAMIAM]

Brk-Int.............STOP IT......I can't see the keyboard because I'm laughing so hard

[Skip]

Loons aren't the only critters in danger; be cautious around strangers in kayaks, that innocent paddler could be a convicted sex offender on the run!

From just a few weeks ago!!!

[Dave R]

Originally Posted by brk-lnt

In case you are wondering, I know this from a conversation I overhead when I accidentally walked into a "Kayakers bar". The Subaru wagons out front, yogurt menu, and granola scattered on the floor should have given the joint away, but I was weary and simply wanted a bite to eat. Once I realized where I was, I ate my Muselix and quietly left without calling attention to myself, but that was not before I heard many of the secrets of this cult discussed out in the open, in what they thought was a safe environment...

I know that bar, it's called "Club Baby Seal", right?

[brk-lnt]

Originally Posted by Dave R

I know that bar, it's called "Club Baby Seal", right?

Oh damn, that was perfect!

[codeman671]

Originally Posted by B R

all of this is easily explained:

a leg on top of the kayak:

i've seen this in the x games before. some kayakers get their kicks out of doing these insane tricks all in the name of fun. it's called cowboy kayaking. they're trying to get this sick sport into the olympics, but no insurance company will underwrite the event.

the person is paddling real close to a nest/a nest in the middle of the water/line running at an angle:

appears to be a deviation from the above sport. i've heard they race as close as they can to the tormented loon in an attempt to get the loons to scream (squack, call out...). once they succeed, they lasso the loon and nest with fishing line (that's why it's barely visible) and drag them out to the middle of the lake and then watch and laugh as the loon struggles back to shore. points are awarded by the length of the loon scream and the number of loon chicks that fall into the water.

all of this on the name of fun. i'm telling ya, it's just sick sick sick.....there ought to be a law.......

Don't forget the lead sinkers that are fed to them in order to prolong their struggle to shore... Only done by the most skilled of culprits...

[Mee-n-Mac]

Originally Posted by Sman

trade the yak in for some binoculars...

the second post mentions something is wrong with this pic, I agree, not sure what it is but it just doesn't look right, a leg on top of the kayak, the person is paddling real close to a nest, a nest in the middle of the water, some sort of a line in the pic running at an angle?

Certainly deserves a third look. With the uber special software I have available and previously used to discover the true nature of the "yellow thingee" off the Anchor Marine docks, I think I may have uncovered the truth. You see what we have here is a rare display of karma. Yes the Kowboi Kayaker went out to lasso the poor loon but in a rare instance of karma, he ran across the rarest of loon species.

You see loons are among the older of bird species in general, closer to their dinosaur predecessors than most birds. Thus some species of loon have retained some very unusual dino and reptilian capabilities. We all have heard how deadly the saliva of the Komodo Dragon is and know that various species of snake and reptiles have a poisonous bite. Indeed Jurassic Park (the movie) was entirely correct in showing that some dinos could spit poison. So what we have here is the very rare Spitting Loon 'o' Death. It's not only poisonous but downright acidic in the venom it can project up to 31.4 ft. The mystery of the missing leg is solved .... dissolved away by the vile bile coughed up by this very rare loon !

[Evenstar]

And the kayak bashing and insults continues. And you guys wonder why there are so few non-powerboat owners on this forum. Apparently that's they way you want it, because you seem to be working really hard to keep it that way.

Of course that's because you don't have any tollerance for anyone with a different point of view from you. Whenever anyone member here doesn't fall into your group mentality - you guys just gang up on them until they dissappear. You guys are pathetic. When there are no more paddlers left here to bash, then what will you do for fun? I'm sure if you all put your minds together, you'll be able to come up with another minority group to insult.

[brk-lnt]

Originally Posted by Evenstar

When there are no more paddlers left here to bash, then what will you do for fun? I'm sure if you all put your minds together, you'll be able to come up with another minority group to insult.

Nah, we'll just rehash all the old paddler-bashing threads. Every 2nd post will start with "Remember the time when...".


Evenstar, seriously, lighten up. I really have nothing against you or paddlers in general, but you just feed the flames here. Tell ya what, meet me over at "Club Baby Seal" sometime and I'll buy you a smoothie and we'll get to know each other a little better. You know what they say, ANY girl looks like a keeper at 1AM after 6 smoothies and a shot of flaxseed oil.

[Turtle Boy]

Originally Posted by Evenstar

And the kayak bashing and insults continues. And you guys wonder why there are so few non-powerboat owners on this forum. Apparently that's they way you want it, because you seem to be working really hard to keep it that way.

Of course that's because you don't have any tollerance for anyone with a different point of view from you. Whenever anyone member here doesn't fall into your group mentality - you guys just gang up on them until they dissappear. You guys are pathetic. When there are no more paddlers left here to bash, then what will you do for fun? I'm sure if you all put your minds together, you'll be able to come up with another minority group to insult.

Hey Evenstar...I've often wondered what a forum in N. Korea is like ....you're free to post anything so long as it's "we are proud to honor the great leader comrade Kim Jong-il with our loyalty". This is what we're up against on a forum like this; hang in there. As Islander alluded to earlier, they're a little sore over their recent loss. Quite understandable.

[brk-lnt]

Originally Posted by Turtle Boy

Hey Evenstar...I've often wondered what a forum in N. Korea is like ....you're free to post anything so long as it's "we are proud to honor the great leader comrade Kim Jong-il with our loyalty". This is what we're up against on a forum like this; hang in there. As Islander alluded to earlier, they're a little sore over their recent loss. Quite understandable.

Loss? Loss of what? The speed limit debate was interesting, but it will have no recognizable impact on 95% of the anti-HB847 crowd. I highly doubt that anyone is trying to take out their anger over this "loss" on any of the supporters here.

Responding to your silly posts here is like going fishing at a stocked salmon farm. It's not all that difficult, and you're practically guaranteed an easy win. In the end, it's not really rewarding, it's just a fun way to pass the time.

[hazelnut]

Highly entertaining folks.

Most importantly the posts that claim bashing against kayakers. HILARIOUS. As if Kayakers have become a new minority group. : laugh:

I guess just because I kayaked today for a few hours I should be angry at this thread.

No worries my skin is thicker than tissue paper.

P.S. I usually paddle away from loon nests.

[Islander]

Originally Posted by brk-lnt

Loss? Loss of what? The speed limit debate was interesting, but it will have no recognizable impact on 95% of the anti-HB847 crowd. I highly doubt that anyone is trying to take out their anger over this "loss" on any of the supporters here.

Responding to your silly posts here is like going fishing at a stocked salmon farm. It's not all that difficult, and you're practically guaranteed an easy win. In the end, it's not really rewarding, it's just a fun way to pass the time.

YA Right!

None of you care that it passed!

It doesn't make any difference!

Is that why it is still the number one topic on the forum? Is that why people are lining up to bash kayaks?

Is this the denial phase? Are are we already into anger?

The Five Stages
1. Denial
2. Anger
3. Bargaining
4. Depression
5. Acceptance

[Sman]

man this is tough, so if I have a kayak and a boat that goes faster than 45 ( neither one too fancy) reading this I don't know which side I am on...sometimes I want to go 60 mph and sometimes I want to go for a paddle in the Kayak...what do I do, I need to pick a side...

actually no I don't, are people really THAT offended by the humor or attempt there of humor in this thread. And how bad can life really be if we have time during our day to read and post about boating?

hope it stops raining so we can all get back in our toys and on the lake

[Turtle Boy]

Originally Posted by Sman

man this is tough, so if I have a kayak and a boat that goes faster than 45 ( neither one too fancy) reading this I don't know which side I am on...sometimes I want to go 60 mph and sometimes I want to go for a paddle in the Kayak...what do I do, I need to pick a side...

actually no I don't, are people really THAT offended by the humor or attempt there of humor in this thread. And how bad can life really be if we have time during our day to read and post about boating?

hope it stops raining so we can all get back in our toys and on the lake

That's it Sman....a new sport to bring these 2 very disparate groups together...we'll call it kayak tubing. Evenstar can contribute a kayak, VtSteve a GFBL (whoops, performance) boat, and we tow the kayak around at 65MPH(this year only, next year 45 MPH). My grandson loves tubing...bet he'll really love GFBL kayaking (sorry again, performance kayaking). Common ground at last. Kumbayah.

[Orion]

Originally Posted by Turtle Boy

That's it Sman....a new sport to bring these 2 very disparate groups together...we'll call it kayak tubing.

No need. At the Lakeshore Living Expo, one of the local marinas exhibiting had those jet-powered kayaks, shown in a prior thread, for sale. You can scratch every itch with just one boat.

[Mashugana]

Originally Posted by Sman

man this is tough, so if I have a kayak and a boat that goes faster than 45 ( neither one too fancy) reading this I don't know which side I am on...sometimes I want to go 60 mph and sometimes I want to go for a paddle in the Kayak...what do I do, I need to pick a side...

You should probably pick the Kayak side Sman. Be sure to paint a florescent target on your paddling suit so we can see you. You know how it is to go faster than ones ability to see.

Don't even get me started about PWCs. Those wake jumping lake bugs buzzing all over the place. They are a menace. Some areas and lakes already ban them.

I hear that Kayakers love water. Maybe they should try something like beer, wine, Prozac or something else (to be blunt) to mellow out.

Sman, we like you but you are now one of THEM! No offense.

Intolerance is a terrible thing to tolerate

[brk-lnt]

Originally Posted by Islander

YA Right!

None of you care that it passed!

It doesn't make any difference!

You and Twaddle Boy are the first ones to drag the speed limits into yet another thread. Seriously, find a new drum to beat, you've played that one to death.

[Turtle Boy]

Originally Posted by brk-lnt

You and Twaddle Boy are the first ones to drag the speed limits into yet another thread. Seriously, find a new drum to beat, you've played that one to death.

Actually it was VtSteve who dragged speed into this thread on 7/17. Lighten up...maybe you ought to switch to decaf. In fact I worry that a few of the GFBL posters could blow a cerebral aneurism while typing their posts. Take a quiet paddle on the lake, come back and eat some granola, and then try to meditate.....Oooohhhhhmmmm.

[B R]

Originally Posted by Islander

None of you care that it passed!

It doesn't make any difference!

Is this you acting like an adult and being a gracious winner? Please....

The only question I have is are you going to lie on your back kicking and screaming when all these big bad GF boats don't leave your lake because of the silly speed limit? Or are you going to hold your breath until they all go away?

[SIKSUKR]

Originally Posted by Evenstar

Of course that's because you don't have any tollerance for anyone with a different point of view from you.You guys are pathetic.

Now THAT'S funny.Have you read your own posts like the one above?You are BY FAR the most intollerant member on this board.

Originally Posted by Evenstar

I'm sure if you all put your minds together, you'll be able to come up with another minority group to insult.

I think the Anti-Defamation League should be notified immediately!There should be another law for this.

[Evenstar]

Originally Posted by hazelnut

Most importantly the posts that claim bashing against kayakers. HILARIOUS. As if Kayakers have become a new minority group.

Kayakers ARE very much a minority group – in this forum.

No worries my skin is thicker than tissue paper.

And you’re not the one that many of the insulting comments here are being directed at.

Originally Posted by SIKSUKR

Now THAT'S funny.Have you read your own posts like the one above? You are BY FAR the most intollerant member on this board.

I admit that I have little tolerance toward intolerance – but that does not make me an intolerant person. I support diversity – but that does not mean that I support bigotry or hate crimes.

“We must be vigilant against discrimination and show no tolerance for intolerance.” - opening statement by the OSCE Chairman-in-Office, Dr Dimitrij Rupel, at the OSCE Conference on Anti-Semitism and on Other Forms of Intolerance Cordoba, 8 June 2005 [/i]

"I swore never to be silent whenever and wherever human beings endure suffering and humiliation. We must always take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented." Elie Wiesel

“Prejudices are what fools use for reason." Voltaire

[SAMIAM]

I thought this thread was hilarious.......Evenstar was the only one who took it serious and was offended.Anyone with any common sense could see that it was all a spoof and joined in the fun.There are many kayakers in this forum but they didn't chime in because they knew it was all in fun....He used words like "ridicule and "humiliation"........guess he's just one of those people who looks for ways to be offended.

[brk-lnt]

Originally Posted by SAMIAM

I thought this thread was hilarious.......Evenstar was the only one who took it serious and was offended.Anyone with any common sense could see that it was all a spoof and joined in the fun.There are many kayakers in this forum but they didn't chime in because they knew it was all in fun....He used words like "ridicule and "humiliation"........guess he's just one of those people who looks for ways to be offended.

Some people are just forever the victim.


I KNOW MY RIGHTS! YOU WILL NOT OPPRESS ME!


I'd be willing to bet 2 things:
1) Evenstar is single
2) Now, or at some point in her life, she has owned a soapbox.

[robmac]

be carefull Samiam,he's a she that could be considered by her as more bashing

[VtSteve]

Geez Tboy. First off, I don;t own a GFBL boat. Not that fast, and it's pretty quiet.

Second, How did I drag the dreaded topic into this thread? I was having fun like everyone else, save for at least four of you. I'm beginning to think that someone's been pi$$ing in your wheaties in the morning.

"This is the kind of mindless, senseless, arrogant act I've come to expect from the pardy not at all paddling crowd. Harassing birds, probably disturbing turtles, all in the name of self-serving interests.

That poor bird looks absolutely terrified in that picture, as anyone would be had their 150' space been violated. I'll bet the poor bird had to endure many minutes of fright as the kayak headed straight for her, probably not even aware of the impending encroachment. The kayaker could have slowed down, but it's not their nature, never has been. The kayaker is probably coming back from the local quick stop, with the day's beer supply.

Loons have rights too! "

[Dave R]

If we "show no tolerance for intolerance", does that not, in fact, make us intolerant? How can we possibly tolerate intolerance of intolerance? I don't think I can. I don't think I want to, even if I could. Gosh, imagine everything being entirely unlike that!

I have to take 8 hours of diversity training every year and the one thing that's always conspicuously missing from the training is the recommendation of being tolerant of the insensitivity of others. I think that's intolerable.

[brk-lnt]

I'm confused now. Are we supposed to be tolerant of the intolerant? Or have intoleration for tolerance expressed in excessive levels?

And of course the most important question that applies to all aspects of forum threads here, how does HB847 support affect our intolerant tolerance?


Personally, I like to think of myself as unbiased and unprejudiced (as well as debonair and handsome)... I oppress no minority group, as I hate everyone equally.

[Evenstar]

Originally Posted by SAMIAM

I thought this thread was hilarious.......Evenstar was the only one who took it serious and was offended.........guess he's just one of those people who looks for ways to be offended.

As I pointed out to you already, I'm a she.

Yes, I'm just looking for ways to be offended. That's why I forced some of the people here to target me - before I even posted a reply in this thread. There's a line between humor and insult - many in this thread have crossed that line.

[alsadad]

Originally Posted by Evenstar

Of course that's because you don't have any tollerance for anyone with a different point of view from you.

I think I remember coming to the Lake when the toll was 1 token (12.5 cents). Then they hiked it to 2 tokens and then again to 3 tokens. Then they stopped taking tokens so we had to pay the toll of 75 cents in real, honest-to-goodness American money. Now the toll is $1. When I pay the toll does that make me in-toll-erant? Or am I ex-toll-erant, dis-toll-erant, mis-toll-erant, un-toll-erant, bi-toll-erant (for the round trip, so to speak), or just plain annoyed?

[SAMIAM]

Wonder if Evenstar noticed that she was the only kayaker to get a case of the arse over a little humor......glad I'm not married to her.

[no-engine]

Originally Posted by alsadad

I think I remember coming to the Lake when the toll was 1 token (12.5 cents). Then they hiked it to 2 tokens and then again to 3 tokens. Then they stopped taking tokens so we had to pay the toll of 75 cents in real, honest-to-goodness American money. Now the toll is $1. When I pay the toll does that make me in-toll-erant? Or am I ex-toll-erant, dis-toll-erant, mis-toll-erant, un-toll-erant, bi-toll-erant (for the round trip, so to speak), or just plain annoyed?

If you sign up for EZPass with NH DOT, you get discount, on all NH tolls!
AND the transponder is accepted at all other EZ pass locations or fast-lane in MA.
Toll collections in NJ, DE, MD and others can be transited at the speed limits of 55 or 65; DE give 10% discount for all electronic collections.
NOW that's good engineering.

This thread reads as if there's bunch of regrets among motorized craft, who must pay so much for their fuel! Fuel to sail or paddle is same fuel I use 365/24/7, available at routine grocery stores or one's garden!

Chatted with acquaintance last night who lives on Moultonboro Neck on waterfront, and observes the motors are fewer and at slower speeds, PLUS they seem to have respect for others on Lake which has not existed on the Lake for many years.

[Mashugana]

I'm with brk-lnt 100%. We should meet at the club and get to know one another.

Originally Posted by Evenstar

The amount of kayak bashing on this forum continues to amaze me.

It's not bashing, it's swamping. I heard it happens a lot on Squam or was it Winnisquam.

Originally Posted by Evenstar

This is supposed to be a place for all boaters - yet the powerboat owners seem to think that there’s nothing wrong with constantly putting down paddlers here. No wonder that I’m only one of the few paddlers who is brave enough to post here.

This is supposed to be a place for ANYONE, particularly anyone with an interest in the Lakes Region of NH. Not just power boaters. I could have a sailboat and know how to Jibe .

Originally Posted by Evenstar

And I get jumped on every time that I stand up for paddlers.

You claim it happens so often that I think you secretely might like to get jumped on.

Originally Posted by Evenstar

And please don’t try to tell me that this is just a joke – because I’m not laughing at your insults. This is nothing more than prejudice - and it is wrong.

As you wish dear Evenstar. I won't try to tell you that this is a joke or satirical or even a fun thread. It started as an informational post showing an interaction shared between a KAYAK a kayaker and a loon. That's no joke.

I did miss where people insulted you. You are the only brave kayaker that speaks up the way you do. You are right. That is just wrong.

Prejudiced? you bet I am. I would rather read this thread than 98% of the speed limit threads.

BTW. Was that a sea kayak or a plain old regular kind of kayak bothering that loon?

kayakers are boaters too